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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: edmc^2

Job 26:7 says - "the earth is hanging on nothing"

The Earth is not hanging.

Ok - what's the earth resting on?

a reply to: edmc^2

Stick to the subject. What is the earth resting on?

So, it's not hanging then? Job was wrong?

The Earth is not resting. It is falling.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: edmc^2

Stick to the subject. What is the earth resting on?

The Earth is not resting. It is falling.

Ok - what's the earth falling on?

originally posted by: edmc^2

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: edmc^2

Stick to the subject. What is the earth resting on?

The Earth is not resting. It is falling.

Ok - what's the earth falling on?

Well, if it weren't for its angular momentum, the Sun.

originally posted by: edmc^2

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: edmc^2

The subject is not the orbit or the rotation of the earth or the sun but the location of the earth in space.

The Earth is constantly moving through space. Both around the Sun and around the galaxy. And, in fact, along with the galaxy. Its location is always changing

Here is what you asked:

So where did the writer of Job get the information from - c 3400 years ago?

You

Job 26:7 says - "the earth is hanging on nothing"

It's not about orbit or rotation.

Stick to the subject. What is the earth resting on?

So how do you explain the creation of the sun and stars, AFTER the earth, oceans and fish?

It's really easy to isolate one verse and give it whatever meaning you want. The original context intended isn't anything like modern science..

originally posted by: Phage

originally posted by: edmc^2

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: edmc^2

Stick to the subject. What is the earth resting on?

The Earth is not resting. It is falling.

Ok - what's the earth falling on?

Well, if it weren't for its angular momentum, the Sun.

Ok - is it something solid around the sun (since the earth is not falling on the sun)?

What is that INVISIBLE force?

a reply to: edmc^2
It is a combination of two forces. Gravity, and angular momentum.

originally posted by: edmc^2

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: edmc^2

Stick to the subject. What is the earth resting on?

The Earth is not resting. It is falling.

Ok - what's the earth falling on?

It is falling tward the sun, the speed is just so great it arcs around it, creating an orbit.

It's gravity 101.

Everything is moving, nothing is at rest.

originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: edmc^2

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: edmc^2

The subject is not the orbit or the rotation of the earth or the sun but the location of the earth in space.

The Earth is constantly moving through space. Both around the Sun and around the galaxy. And, in fact, along with the galaxy. Its location is always changing

Here is what you asked:

So where did the writer of Job get the information from - c 3400 years ago?

You

Job 26:7 says - "the earth is hanging on nothing"

It's not about orbit or rotation.

Stick to the subject. What is the earth resting on?

So how do you explain the creation of the sun and stars, AFTER the earth, oceans and fish?

It's really easy to isolate one verse and give it whatever meaning you want. The original context intended isn't anything like modern science..

Three simple words "hangs on nothing" - there's not much to misinterpret from it. It's people like you who likes to put a different twist to it.

""hangs on nothing" doesn't say anything about rotation or orbit. It's only saying the "earth hangs on nothing".

I'm not giving any meaning to it.

Where do see orbit or rotation in there?

a reply to: edmc^2
Someone else already eloquently shut it down.

originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: edmc^2

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: edmc^2

Stick to the subject. What is the earth resting on?

The Earth is not resting. It is falling.

Ok - what's the earth falling on?

It is falling tward the sun, the speed is just so great it arcs around it, creating an orbit.

It's gravity 101.

Everything is moving, nothing is at rest.

ok - we're making progress - GRAVITY - when was gravity discovered?

What was this force before it was called "gravity"?

More importantly, is it visible or invisible?

originally posted by: FairyThorne
a reply to: edmc^2
Someone else already eloquently shut it down.

It what way?

a reply to: edmc^2

By clearly stating that the piece of 'evidence' that you are using to base what appears to be the body of your theory is not in fact correct, the earth is by no means of the word 'hanging'. Not only that but your body of evidence, the bible, is a book that has been continually edited and reworded over time, meaning that you cannot prove anything quantifiable with it, it is not in its original state.

originally posted by: FairyThorne
a reply to: edmc^2
Someone else already eloquently shut it down.

care to show me how it was as you put it: "shut down"?

a reply to: edmc^2

ok - we're making progress - GRAVITY - when was gravity discovered?

I have no idea. Maybe when one of our ancestors fell out of a tree a long, long time ago.

What was this force before it was called "gravity"?

Einstein's explanation seems to work best. It is a distortion of spacetime. What it's called is not really significant.

More importantly, is it visible or invisible?

Can't see it.


Now will you answer my question?

a reply to: edmc^2

Again one vague line is not proof of anything. Especially since the earth isn't hanging it's orbiting. There is a big difference.

originally posted by: FairyThorne
a reply to: edmc^2

By clearly stating that the piece of 'evidence' that you are using to base what appears to be the body of your theory is not in fact correct, the earth is by no means of the word 'hanging'. Not only that but your body of evidence, the bible, is a book that has been continually edited and reworded over time, meaning that you cannot prove anything quantifiable with it, it is not in its original state.

Like I said - the Book of Job was written in poetry, hence, the words reflected it.

So without using any of the modern scientific jargon like the earth was being suspended, held in place by an invisible force called gravity, the writer simply stated - "hangs on nothing".

Why use the word "nothing"? He could have used something else but chose "nothing"?

Was it coincidence?

Aristotle used "sphere within a sphere" which we now know to be incorrect.

So how did the writer know?

simple question - why nothing instead of something?

BTW - if you don't like the word "hanging" let me use "suspended" since other Bible use that word.

a reply to: Phage

Einstein's explanation seems to work best. It is a distortion of spacetime. What it's called is not really significant.

Can we also say that this invisible force is nothing tangible as opposed to something tangible?

As to your question - kindly please ask again?

a reply to: edmc^2

Why use the word "nothing"? He could have used something else but chose "nothing"?

Why use the word hang when it doesn't?

Why not say "and the world is a ball which circles the Sun forever?" Not entirely true of course, but poetic and much closer to reality.

simple question - why nothing instead of something?

Because it sounds awesome. And ignorant. Which Job and everyone else was at the time, concerning the nature of the Earth.

As to your question - kindly please ask again?

You can't scroll back a bit?

a reply to: edmc^2

You can't dismiss all the other evidence that goes againtst the genesis account when it was you who said that the bible is 100% scientifically accurate and genesis 1 is your rock and foundation.

I along with other members have shown a multitude of other scriptures that disagree with scientific fact.

Even the scripture you keep using in Job is not scientifically accurate. It's a vague statement and it is not scientifically accurate.

How about in Genesis when it was said that all plants on the earth are good for food? Is that accurate. Would you go and eat any berry? no you wouldn't because you know that some berries are fatal to humans. Again another example of a flaw in Genesis.

How about the earth being created before the sun? The order of animals is wrong in Genesis. The ark story is an absolute impossibility.