Whould you get in this if I told you it goes to the moon?

originally posted by: Qwerm
Can't be asked, can you just tell me?

I could, but that would absolve you of any responsibility for educating yourself and doing some independent research.

As others have pointed out, most of the lunar modules crash landed into the moon (though one is still in solar orbit).

Two ended up burning up in Earth's atmosphere.

A small amount of research about the Apollo programme will tell you which ones.

originally posted by: Qwerm

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: Qwerm

originally posted by: Soylent Green Is People

originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance

originally posted by: Qwerm

originally posted by: ProfessorPatternfish
I apologise in advanced for this being a short OP.



I am curios, in this day and age. With what we know about space exploration. Would anyone really get in this Apollo 11 Lander if was told it goes to the moon?

I wouldn't. I would laugh and say;


"It looks like it is made of card, left over Christmas wrapping paper and egg cartons".


Take a close look at the Apollo 11 Lander. It looks flimsy to say the least.

I know space is a vacuum. But I would not get in this to take poo. I would be scared id fart and it would blow apart.


I'm serious.

files.abovetopsecret.com...

How but how could that flimsy thing re-enter the earths atmosphere?

It didn't. But hey, thanks for perfectly illustrating the remarkable ignorance of moon hoax believers.

I've suspected for a while now that "Qwerm" is deliberately playing ignorant for the fun of it. His post in this thread where he said...

originally posted by: Qwerm

How but how could that flimsy thing re-enter the earths atmosphere?
Is that a fake photo cos there are no stars? did it land yet?
The curve of the moon looks quite steep.

...has convinced me even more that he is just pulling our leg.

Nice try, but as it stands that egg box would burn on re-entry.

And as has been said already, it didn't re-enter the earths atmosphere.

What happened to it then?

The bottom part (the descent module) stayed on the Moon. It's still there. We have pictures. The top half achieved lunar orbit. I believe it crashed back onto the moon's surface though it may have been left in orbit. In any case, it was no longer needed and was discarded.

originally posted by: Qwerm

originally posted by: OneBigMonkeyToo

originally posted by: Qwerm
Nice try, but as it stands that egg box would burn on re-entry.

You're quite right, it would, but only two ever did.

See if you can work out which ones, and why.

Can't be asked, can you just tell me?

Apollo 13 would be one, obviously.

My second guess would be 9...looking...yep!

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: Qwerm

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: Qwerm

originally posted by: Soylent Green Is People

originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance

originally posted by: Qwerm

originally posted by: ProfessorPatternfish
I apologise in advanced for this being a short OP.



I am curios, in this day and age. With what we know about space exploration. Would anyone really get in this Apollo 11 Lander if was told it goes to the moon?

I wouldn't. I would laugh and say;


"It looks like it is made of card, left over Christmas wrapping paper and egg cartons".


Take a close look at the Apollo 11 Lander. It looks flimsy to say the least.

I know space is a vacuum. But I would not get in this to take poo. I would be scared id fart and it would blow apart.


I'm serious.

files.abovetopsecret.com...

How but how could that flimsy thing re-enter the earths atmosphere?

It didn't. But hey, thanks for perfectly illustrating the remarkable ignorance of moon hoax believers.

I've suspected for a while now that "Qwerm" is deliberately playing ignorant for the fun of it. His post in this thread where he said...

originally posted by: Qwerm

How but how could that flimsy thing re-enter the earths atmosphere?
Is that a fake photo cos there are no stars? did it land yet?
The curve of the moon looks quite steep.

...has convinced me even more that he is just pulling our leg.

Nice try, but as it stands that egg box would burn on re-entry.

And as has been said already, it didn't re-enter the earths atmosphere.

What happened to it then?

It was jettisoned in lunar orbit.

There's no point in bringing them back to Earth. So, once the astronauts dock with the CM and transfer back, they jettison the LM in lunar orbit.

a reply to: Qwerm

What happened to it then?

After the crew transferred themselves and the sample to the CM it was sent on a de orbit path.
They had left seismographs on the surface and the LM impact gave NASA data on the composition of the interior.

Try calling up a couple youtube's to see how things worked?

originally posted by: Bedlam

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: Qwerm

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: Qwerm

originally posted by: Soylent Green Is People

originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance

originally posted by: Qwerm

originally posted by: ProfessorPatternfish
I apologise in advanced for this being a short OP.



I am curios, in this day and age. With what we know about space exploration. Would anyone really get in this Apollo 11 Lander if was told it goes to the moon?

I wouldn't. I would laugh and say;


"It looks like it is made of card, left over Christmas wrapping paper and egg cartons".


Take a close look at the Apollo 11 Lander. It looks flimsy to say the least.

I know space is a vacuum. But I would not get in this to take poo. I would be scared id fart and it would blow apart.


I'm serious.

files.abovetopsecret.com...

How but how could that flimsy thing re-enter the earths atmosphere?

It didn't. But hey, thanks for perfectly illustrating the remarkable ignorance of moon hoax believers.

I've suspected for a while now that "Qwerm" is deliberately playing ignorant for the fun of it. His post in this thread where he said...

originally posted by: Qwerm

How but how could that flimsy thing re-enter the earths atmosphere?
Is that a fake photo cos there are no stars? did it land yet?
The curve of the moon looks quite steep.

...has convinced me even more that he is just pulling our leg.

Nice try, but as it stands that egg box would burn on re-entry.

And as has been said already, it didn't re-enter the earths atmosphere.

What happened to it then?

It was jettisoned in lunar orbit.

There's no point in bringing them back to Earth. So, once the astronauts dock with the CM and transfer back, they jettison the LM in lunar orbit.

I know. I was answering the question.

originally posted by: Qwerm
Reverse psychology....you got stupefied.

In your ever so humble opinion, only

a reply to: TerryDon79

I was expanding on it. Should have made that more clear, I suppose.

I could be wrong, but I believe qwerm might think that the LM is the entire Apollo craft.

a reply to: Bedlam

To be perfectly honest, it doesn't seem to matter what you explain to some people (with proven science), they're just going to ignore it anyway.

Hence my short and sweet response to the question.

ETA: Certainly seems like the op thinks the lunar lander took off from Earth without anything else.

originally posted by: OneBigMonkeyToo

originally posted by: Qwerm
Can't be asked, can you just tell me?

I could, but that would absolve you of any responsibility for educating yourself and doing some independent research.

As others have pointed out, most of the lunar modules crash landed into the moon (though one is still in solar orbit).

Two ended up burning up in Earth's atmosphere.

A small amount of research about the Apollo programme will tell you which ones.

Any evidence to back that up? or is that what NASA told you?

originally posted by: Bedlam
a reply to: TerryDon79

I was expanding on it. Should have made that more clear, I suppose.

I could be wrong, but I believe qwerm might think that the LM is the entire Apollo craft.

I did.

So you are dismissing the apollo moon mission because of the looks of the LM alone? No offense but that's like looking at one part of a smart phone and thinking there is no way you could fit a computer in there.

There is no way I would get in this thing to take a dump, let alone get in it to try and get to the moon.

Have you read the design specs? Have you seen the inside? Have you looked at the actual launch from earth and how it is acheived? Do you have a real argument? Not trying to insult you here but the moon appears to be made of cheese. That doesn't make it so.

originally posted by: ProfessorPatternfish
a reply to: hellobruce

So how about you work out exactly how much they would have needed, and tell us how much space that fuel would have taken up.... also tell us the weight they lifted from the moon.

Because I cant be bothered.

I know enough to know, that it would take a very large amount of fuel to break free from the surface of the moon. And then to get into orbit. And then come back to earth.

I don't see any fuel tanks.

Do you?

Exactly, you can't be bothered to do any research, yet you are shocked by the opposition from people that have.

Do you just ignore posts? The picture of the fuel tank was posted a few posts up from yours, along with the engineering schematics, something you clearly haven't even bothered to look at before making your hasty conclusion. Yeah, it's just an egg carton. That is what you call a straw man, my friend.

Also you don't seem to realize this, but if you think the lander alone was the only thing that went to the moon, you are just delusional. That is the end result. It started as a rocket ship like this:



Would you think that ship could make it to the moon? You should probably learn what actually happened and the mechanics involved, instead of the constant appeals to ignorance. Of course the LM unit wouldn't make it to the moon by itself. You are only looking at the LANDER module.

www.space.com...

Educate yourself!

originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: Qwerm

What happened to it then?

After the crew transferred themselves and the sample to the CM it was sent on a de orbit path.
They had left seismographs on the surface and the LM impact gave NASA data on the composition of the interior.

Try calling up a couple youtube's to see how things worked?

Thanks.

a reply to: Qwerm

Any evidence to back that up? or is that what NASA told you?

You are starting to sound like someone who has just received their first computer.

There is this web site that can provide you with links to tons of Apollo info.
It's called Google.com
Just type in 'Apollo mission' and it will provide millions of hits to look through.
P.S. use the ones with 'nasa' in the address because they have real pictures.

I could be wrong, but I believe qwerm might think that the LM is the entire Apollo craft.

I did.

That pretty much explains it. The internet can be a useful resource for information.

edit:

You missed some impressive rocket launches which were part of the flights.

originally posted by: Qwerm

originally posted by: Bedlam
a reply to: TerryDon79

I was expanding on it. Should have made that more clear, I suppose.

I could be wrong, but I believe qwerm might think that the LM is the entire Apollo craft.

I did.

Ah. Apollo was much more than that. The entire design was amazing, given the technology of the times.

originally posted by: Bedlam

originally posted by: Qwerm

originally posted by: Bedlam
a reply to: TerryDon79

I was expanding on it. Should have made that more clear, I suppose.

I could be wrong, but I believe qwerm might think that the LM is the entire Apollo craft.

I did.

Ah. Apollo was much more than that. The entire design was amazing, given the technology of the times.

So true.
I grew up with it being a new thing and the news covered it in depth, with explanations given at the time of the missions exactly what was occurring during each major event, like stage separations, maneuvering and docking.
It was a great thing to watch as a child, imo.

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Bedlam

originally posted by: Qwerm

originally posted by: Bedlam
a reply to: TerryDon79

I was expanding on it. Should have made that more clear, I suppose.

I could be wrong, but I believe qwerm might think that the LM is the entire Apollo craft.

I did.

Ah. Apollo was much more than that. The entire design was amazing, given the technology of the times.

So true.
I grew up with it being a new thing and the news covered it in depth, with explanations given at the time of the missions exactly what was occurring during each major event, like stage separations, maneuvering and docking.
It was a great thing to watch as a child, imo.

I often am amazed at the ignorance displayed about Apollo. I was ten years old when Shepard went up. I lived it when it was happening, and I guess this explains it. People who grew up well after simply did not get "the bug" about space travel that we did. And they certainly did not get the basic knowledge on how this stuff worked.

while i like to believe we went to the moon that doesnt mean we actually did, one thing not mentioned in this thread is the van Allen belts and the different accounts from the astronaut's about going through it, another thing people like to say is we brought back rocks which prooves we went to the moon well to that i say www.telegraph.co.uk...

originally posted by: Bedlam

originally posted by: Qwerm

originally posted by: OneBigMonkeyToo

originally posted by: Qwerm
Nice try, but as it stands that egg box would burn on re-entry.

You're quite right, it would, but only two ever did.

See if you can work out which ones, and why.

Can't be asked, can you just tell me?

Apollo 13 would be one, obviously.

My second guess would be 9...looking...yep!

Actually, three of them did. You're forgetting Apollo 5, which was an unmanned test of the LM in earth orbit.