Remote viewing the 911 attacks

originally posted by: Doctor Smith
I'm sure you have nothing.

You would be wrong again....

www.youtube.com...

Or you could have just searched youtube or 9/11 citgo!

a reply to: hellobruce

originally posted by: Doctor Smith Those planes were remote controlled or those pilots were trained with exactly the same aircraft.

Your evidence for that claim is what exactly?

They were trained on small planes. You show me how they were trained to fly those passenger jets?

a reply to: hellobruce

You can see the impact. But no plane in sight again (looks more like a missile) just out of site. At least in those video's they released. Whatever it was, it was flown into the doorway under construction by some freak accident. A missile can be guided with cameras right into a window. Hmmmm. It would be easier to just hit it with the claimed aircraft though if it was a conspiracy? Cause then they don't have to plant evidence. Just doesn't add up.

a reply to: Doctor Smith

Hani Hanjour was training on 737s in simulators, and all the other pilots were training in large aircraft on simulators. All had their commercial ratings.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Doctor Smith

Hani Hanjour was training on 737s in simulators, and all the other pilots were training in large aircraft on simulators. All had their commercial ratings.

I thought everyone knew this?? Am I missing something here, the bit about them only being "trained on small planes" or?

a reply to: Zaphod58

Philip Marshal believed they were trained by the CIA and Saudi's On a CIA base. And names the base. He and his family
ended up dead. Suicided. If they did it, this is the only way they could have been trained according to his expert opinion.

a reply to: Doctor Smith

So all the flight instructors that trained them are in on it and lying? There are multiple flight instructors that flew with them, and it's well documented where they got their flight training from, and the flight schools admit that they trained there. It's also documented where they got their simulator training at.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Zaph,

May I ask . . . what % of the official story you tend to believe, if any?

I think I may misunderstand some of your posts.

I know you're a brilliant bloke. I just feel more than a little confuzzed about where you are on the topic. I certainly haven't read all your posts on it, however.

a reply to: Zaphod58

It is also documented that these instructors have commented on the lack of flying skills of the alleged terrorists.

a reply to: DutchMasterChief

Which was either taken out of context, or was from early in their training. They wouldn't have gotten any of their ratings if they couldn't fly a plane, nor would they have been doing simulator work.

a reply to: BO XIAN

I don't know enough about structural stuff to comment on the buildings, but on the aircraft portions I do, much from first hand experience. I believe that portion, as for the rest, I don't know.

a reply to: Zaphod58

At Freeway Airport in Bowie, Md., 20 miles west of Washington, flight instructor Sheri Baxter instantly recognized the name of alleged hijacker Hani Hanjour when the FBI released a list of 19 suspects in the four hijackings. Hanjour, the only suspect on Flight 77 the FBI listed as a pilot, had come to the airport one month earlier seeking to rent a small plane. However, when Baxter and fellow instructor Ben Conner took the slender, soft-spoken Hanjour on three test runs during the second week of August, they found he had trouble controlling and landing the single-engine Cessna 172. Even though Hanjour showed a federal pilot's license and a log book cataloging 600 hours of flying experience, chief flight instructor Marcel Bernard declined to rent him a plane without more lessons.

whatreallyhappened.com...

a reply to: DutchMasterChief

By March of 2001, he had completed initial 737 training at the Pan Am International Flight Academy in Mesa AZ. Do you really think that he would have passed that if he couldn't fly? Or that he could have gotten his certificates if he couldn't fly? He flew several flights in rented aircraft from the Caldwell Flight Academy in New Jersey, from New Jersey to Maryland in June and July. So he couldn't fly worth a damn, but they were willing to rent him their planes, and risk losing them?

a reply to: Zaphod58

By March of 2001, he had completed initial 737 training at the Pan Am International Flight Academy in Mesa AZ.

The keywords are(initial training).

He flew several flights in rented aircraft from the Caldwell Flight Academy

I bet those weren't 737's. Probably little single engine prop planes.

No disrespect intended. I do work in the Aerospace industry as a technician. I don't know much about piloting. Not one of the pilots I've heard interviewed on the subject think they could have flown those planes into the targets. No matter how experienced they were unless they were militarily trained for that specific mission.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Thanks.

Sounds like a wise, cautious perspective.

Having studied globalism since 1965 . . . I think 911 . . . pushed me further over the line of realizing that there was not much patriotic left in our upper levels of government.

I knew the oligarchy had more or less control over all sides against the middle and against the mass of citizens. I just didn't want to believe it had reached the level of evil etc. that 911 screamed it had. And I think their next forays into major . . . incidents . . . . will be massively worse . . . whenever they decide to light them off.

I think Aaron Russo ["TRADING PLACES" Director] told the truth about what he was told prior to 911.

Anyway--thanks for your perspective and candor.

Top bumped thread and OP's leading content is set to private. Decent content ITT but jet fuel melts steel beams.. deal with it.

a reply to: hellobruce


Not sure why the video shows 1-1-93 12:00
in top corner..just my misinterpretation.

Please explain to me again...Why was the Pentagon
targeted?...125 died.

Nascar Race- 30k
Football game- 20k
IRS bldg. - WGAS
FBI Bldg. - WGAS
Walmart. - WGAS

You get the drift. Of ALL the targets in the U.S., would
YOU have picked the Pentogram if you were one of the
masterminds behind 911?

It would be nice if we could load all the info related to 911
into a supercomputer and have it give us the best case scenario.
Kinda like they do with algorithms in the markets. Or the way
NIST did with the WTC design.

Maybe, just maybe, both the O.S. and the Conspiracy Nuts are wrong.

thanks

a reply to: Doctor Smith

Did you read the rest of it? He completed initial training in the 737 simulator in March of 2001, and there is information that he had gone back in June to continue simulator work.

He was military trained, and an awesome pilot, yet if you look at the FDR for that turn that he made to hit the Pentagon, it was so bad that almost any semi-skilled pilot would have made it. He was all over the place in that turn. It was barely coordinated.

Again, the RV sessions (the subject of this thread) make no mention of a plane at all.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Doctor Smith

Did you read the rest of it? He completed initial training in the 737 simulator in March of 2001, and there is information that he had gone back in June to continue simulator work.

He was military trained, and an awesome pilot, yet if you look at the FDR for that turn that he made to hit the Pentagon, it was so bad that almost any semi-skilled pilot would have made it. He was all over the place in that turn. It was barely coordinated.

Multiple eye witnesses contradict that flight plan. Repeatedly. And some even saw the plane continue to fly after the explosion at the Pentagon.

a reply to: Zaphod58

The original statement I made still stands. You said it was taken out of context yet I don't see you getting into that. You said it was in the begin period of his training which is obviously not true in the example I posted.

Do you deny that these instructors said what my source claims and do you deny that they refused to rent a plane to him?