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Remote viewing the 911 attacks
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Recapping the information from these RV sessions.
Pentagon
No suggestion of a plane. Both RVers saw something akin to a missile.
Dick pictured it being launched from a submarine. And used the word "Popeye", suggesting the Popeye or Have Nap missile. Possibly the Popeye Turbo which can be launched from a submarine.
World Trade Center
No suggestion of AQ style operation. They both suggested a military style operation. Four teams per tower. A command and control team. A demolition team. A team in the air. And a ground spotter team.
In the aircraft
In at least one of the airplanes, Dick did not see a hostile takeover of the cockpit. Rather he saw a remote control takeover of the plane that the pilots were unable to reverse.
Planning
Dick saw the planning taking place at a military base. Possibly in Virginia or Maryland. But the lack of vegetation made him unsure. Dick was unable to RV the planning team due to some type of cloaking device they were using akin to a Faraday cage.
Planners
Although they couldn't RV the planning or operations team at that site. They were able to outline some aspects of them elsewhere.
Dick clearly identified Rumsfeld as one of the chief architects of the operation.
The rest were a mix of military and corporate types who apparently had little emotion connected with what they were doing.
I'm leaving out stuff. But those are the elements of the sessions that stood out to me.
Pentagon
No suggestion of a plane. Both RVers saw something akin to a missile.
Dick pictured it being launched from a submarine. And used the word "Popeye", suggesting the Popeye or Have Nap missile. Possibly the Popeye Turbo which can be launched from a submarine.
World Trade Center
No suggestion of AQ style operation. They both suggested a military style operation. Four teams per tower. A command and control team. A demolition team. A team in the air. And a ground spotter team.
In the aircraft
In at least one of the airplanes, Dick did not see a hostile takeover of the cockpit. Rather he saw a remote control takeover of the plane that the pilots were unable to reverse.
Planning
Dick saw the planning taking place at a military base. Possibly in Virginia or Maryland. But the lack of vegetation made him unsure. Dick was unable to RV the planning team due to some type of cloaking device they were using akin to a Faraday cage.
Planners
Although they couldn't RV the planning or operations team at that site. They were able to outline some aspects of them elsewhere.
Dick clearly identified Rumsfeld as one of the chief architects of the operation.
The rest were a mix of military and corporate types who apparently had little emotion connected with what they were doing.
I'm leaving out stuff. But those are the elements of the sessions that stood out to me.
Since i got hooked on the topic i just watched this interview with Courtney Brown on the 9/11 remote viewing sessions.
It's a general interview, covering the sessions, 9/11, the media coverage, the motives behind 9/11. The question about why the Twin Towers as targets.
It goes into events which are created to start wars. It covers fearporn, ebola.
An get's a little bit into Ed Dames Killstroke (no spoilers, but Ed Dames fans will be disappointed...)
It's an interesting interview 2hours long, so too much to cover all in detail.
I will mention some points which i found interesting:
Around 50 min mark the question on foreign interests/participation comes up.
Courtney mentions that they had that subject coming up during the sessions. But they left it out in the footage, since it was not corroborated by both viewers. They focused on stuff, which was brought by both viewers.
He does mention it s in the raw footage of one of the viewers.
---- if somebody finds that , please post. ----
Courtney does not spill the beans on foreign involvment, but says IF foreign involvment it was done under extreme duress. Foreign service would have been pressed by US forces to participate.
Around 1:05 mark the subject comes up, why they (farsight and disclosure media, as well as other conspiracy groups) are allowed to speak on subjects like this.
He says, in a lot of groups (mentions ufo research groups) the gov orgs come in covertly to start internal fighting, so the groups would break up. (sounds awfully familiar ;-)
His theory why this never happenend to farsight is, that the gov is split.
And parts would at least not hinder the truth come out.
Interesting bit around 1:45 where thy cover preknowledge in public media/cartoons and such: he says part of it might not be subliminal programming but could be involuntary spontaneous Remote Viewing. Like a graphic designer thinking about what to do next, letting creativity flow, getting a spontaneous RV of future events.
Around 1:50 mark the bit about Ed Dame's Killstreak. (again no spoilers here, watch it for yourself) he has a good message, which i think is important for many, many ATS members, even if not into RV/Ed Dames etc).
Another very interesting and important point at around 1:57 he says, that he was asked time and time to cover 9/11. He always said: we will not cover 9/11. Said it over and over again. Since he did not want to compromise the viewers. Otherwise they would have seen towers and would have went straight to 9/11. In order to keep future sessions blind he will not mention what the next topics of sessions will be.
It's a general interview, covering the sessions, 9/11, the media coverage, the motives behind 9/11. The question about why the Twin Towers as targets.
It goes into events which are created to start wars. It covers fearporn, ebola.
An get's a little bit into Ed Dames Killstroke (no spoilers, but Ed Dames fans will be disappointed...)
It's an interesting interview 2hours long, so too much to cover all in detail.
I will mention some points which i found interesting:
Around 50 min mark the question on foreign interests/participation comes up.
Courtney mentions that they had that subject coming up during the sessions. But they left it out in the footage, since it was not corroborated by both viewers. They focused on stuff, which was brought by both viewers.
He does mention it s in the raw footage of one of the viewers.
---- if somebody finds that , please post. ----
Courtney does not spill the beans on foreign involvment, but says IF foreign involvment it was done under extreme duress. Foreign service would have been pressed by US forces to participate.
Around 1:05 mark the subject comes up, why they (farsight and disclosure media, as well as other conspiracy groups) are allowed to speak on subjects like this.
He says, in a lot of groups (mentions ufo research groups) the gov orgs come in covertly to start internal fighting, so the groups would break up. (sounds awfully familiar ;-)
His theory why this never happenend to farsight is, that the gov is split.
And parts would at least not hinder the truth come out.
Interesting bit around 1:45 where thy cover preknowledge in public media/cartoons and such: he says part of it might not be subliminal programming but could be involuntary spontaneous Remote Viewing. Like a graphic designer thinking about what to do next, letting creativity flow, getting a spontaneous RV of future events.
Around 1:50 mark the bit about Ed Dame's Killstreak. (again no spoilers here, watch it for yourself) he has a good message, which i think is important for many, many ATS members, even if not into RV/Ed Dames etc).
Another very interesting and important point at around 1:57 he says, that he was asked time and time to cover 9/11. He always said: we will not cover 9/11. Said it over and over again. Since he did not want to compromise the viewers. Otherwise they would have seen towers and would have went straight to 9/11. In order to keep future sessions blind he will not mention what the next topics of sessions will be.
a reply to: Moresby
In the 20 years of our military and government using remote viewing, here is clear evidence that RV works.
The real terrorist high up in our government who plotted and organized all the 911 events had a room specifically constructed to keep out any future Remote Viewers from viewing these powerful government terrorist viewing their meeting from that time period.
Even future RV will likely see very little in that important meeting, these criminals knew future RV would look into this.
I knew Rumsfeld was one of the true Masterminds, besides tricky Dicky, because they had powers transferred to themselves to cause a silent stand down on NORAD from the DOD, that power was giving to Rumsfeld, and what did Rumsfeld do with all that power on the morning of 911, Nothing. The fact is, Rumsfeld didn't respond, until all four alleged planes had crashed.
That was part of their plan, to not respond while four alleged commercial Airliners flew off their given courses for an hour.
How amazing that is that four "alleged" commercial airliners just flying around for a "whole hour" off of their given flight courses and FAA, and NORAD did nothing to stop it, Oh we were given all kinds of "excuses" to why no one could do anything, but the fact was their hands were tied so to speak, because Rummy was holding all the cards that morning.
How interesting it was that two of these alleged planes flew over highly restricted air space, that's right folks, these planes flew right over our nuclear power plants.
If the so called hijackers really wanted to do some real damaged and kill millions of Americans why didn't they just fly the planes into our Nuclear Power plants.
No, the WTC were the targets because the WTC had to be demolished anyway, and what better use of destroying the WTC while NBC, CBS, FOX, CNN, all focused their media cameras from a safe distance to film this live event for SHOCK & AWE!
What a Ghoulish plan it was, and was carried out perfectly & timely just like a Black Opp's Operation.
Dick saw the planning taking place at a military base. Possibly in Virginia or Maryland. But the lack of vegetation made him unsure. Dick was unable to RV the planning team due to some type of cloaking device they were using akin to a Faraday cage.
In the 20 years of our military and government using remote viewing, here is clear evidence that RV works.
The real terrorist high up in our government who plotted and organized all the 911 events had a room specifically constructed to keep out any future Remote Viewers from viewing these powerful government terrorist viewing their meeting from that time period.
Even future RV will likely see very little in that important meeting, these criminals knew future RV would look into this.
I knew Rumsfeld was one of the true Masterminds, besides tricky Dicky, because they had powers transferred to themselves to cause a silent stand down on NORAD from the DOD, that power was giving to Rumsfeld, and what did Rumsfeld do with all that power on the morning of 911, Nothing. The fact is, Rumsfeld didn't respond, until all four alleged planes had crashed.
That was part of their plan, to not respond while four alleged commercial Airliners flew off their given courses for an hour.
How amazing that is that four "alleged" commercial airliners just flying around for a "whole hour" off of their given flight courses and FAA, and NORAD did nothing to stop it, Oh we were given all kinds of "excuses" to why no one could do anything, but the fact was their hands were tied so to speak, because Rummy was holding all the cards that morning.
How interesting it was that two of these alleged planes flew over highly restricted air space, that's right folks, these planes flew right over our nuclear power plants.
If the so called hijackers really wanted to do some real damaged and kill millions of Americans why didn't they just fly the planes into our Nuclear Power plants.
No, the WTC were the targets because the WTC had to be demolished anyway, and what better use of destroying the WTC while NBC, CBS, FOX, CNN, all focused their media cameras from a safe distance to film this live event for SHOCK & AWE!
What a Ghoulish plan it was, and was carried out perfectly & timely just like a Black Opp's Operation.
The interview also details the protocol for the RV sessions.
Some in this thread wanted those details. They can be found in that interview.
Some in this thread wanted those details. They can be found in that interview.
originally posted by: Informer1958
a reply to: Moresby
Dick saw the planning taking place at a military base. Possibly in Virginia or Maryland. But the lack of vegetation made him unsure. Dick was unable to RV the planning team due to some type of cloaking device they were using akin to a Faraday cage.
In the 20 years of our military and government using remote viewing, here is clear evidence that RV works.
The real terrorist high up in our government who plotted and organized all the 911 events had a room specifically constructed to keep out any future Remote Viewers from viewing these powerful government terrorist viewing their meeting from that time period.
Even future RV will likely see very little in that important meeting, these criminals knew future RV would look into this.
Yup. It does serve as a kind of corroboration of the value of RV. I wonder if it was a physical or electronic barrier. Or it was something created by PSI individuals.
edit on 6-4-2016 by Moresby because: (no reason given)
a reply to: Informer1958
Good point on the shielding of buildings against RV.
This gets covered too in the interview i posted.
(unfortunately i did not note the time mark).
Courtney describes it as a 'mask' which is laid over the building to protect.
For instance a Radar installation, they would lay a mask of for instance the vatican over it. so a Remote viewer would see the vatican instead of the Radar Installation.
According to Courtney, most RVers would fail to see behind the mask. The better ones would see a bit through the mask, like the vatican with radar anntennas sticking out.
He claims to be able to see around the mask. He actually gets excited, describing it feeling like a young hacker when he heard that there was a mask in place and 'hacking' it.
Good point on the shielding of buildings against RV.
This gets covered too in the interview i posted.
(unfortunately i did not note the time mark).
Courtney describes it as a 'mask' which is laid over the building to protect.
For instance a Radar installation, they would lay a mask of for instance the vatican over it. so a Remote viewer would see the vatican instead of the Radar Installation.
According to Courtney, most RVers would fail to see behind the mask. The better ones would see a bit through the mask, like the vatican with radar anntennas sticking out.
He claims to be able to see around the mask. He actually gets excited, describing it feeling like a young hacker when he heard that there was a mask in place and 'hacking' it.
a reply to: Moresby
I don't know for sure, however I have read somewhere in the past that our military and government have special rooms design to keep RV from Remote viewing their top secrete meetings. These special rooms have been build around the globe, there not just in the USA.
Of course they built special rooms, because governments and military are the one's using RV. You better believe they had to spent years testing every kind of way to block RV, and I have no doubts that have discovered several ways in blocking RV in the present time and future time from RV their secrete meetings, I am sure China and Russia have their own methods as well.
What I found interesting in RV, is when our military RV were Remote viewing at times they would run into a Russian RV, remote viewing the same thing at the same time.
Both of the remote viewers looked at this as business as usual and carry on their blind study.
I wonder if it was a physical or electronic barrier. Or it was something created by PSI individuals.
I don't know for sure, however I have read somewhere in the past that our military and government have special rooms design to keep RV from Remote viewing their top secrete meetings. These special rooms have been build around the globe, there not just in the USA.
Of course they built special rooms, because governments and military are the one's using RV. You better believe they had to spent years testing every kind of way to block RV, and I have no doubts that have discovered several ways in blocking RV in the present time and future time from RV their secrete meetings, I am sure China and Russia have their own methods as well.
What I found interesting in RV, is when our military RV were Remote viewing at times they would run into a Russian RV, remote viewing the same thing at the same time.
Both of the remote viewers looked at this as business as usual and carry on their blind study.
originally posted by: hellobruce
originally posted by: Informer1958
Don't forget that in 1998 and 1999 the Port Authority submitted demolition plans to the NYC Council to demolish WTC 1 & 2 by use of demolition, NYC Council voted both times, No.
Do you have a valid source for that claim, like the council minutes?
As expected, no evidence at all, another conspiracy claim bites the dust!
Synchronicity at work!
We had Daz describing the team placing the explosives as a team of '4-8 males'.
Just today Dominator 1000 openend this thread 9/11 breaktrough confession
in which a guy who is visibly sick and about to die soon, confesses that he was part of the Towers demolition team.
Off course the discussion is ongoing if legit or not.
What's interesting: he says they have been a team of 4
So that would match the description Daz gives.
We had Daz describing the team placing the explosives as a team of '4-8 males'.
Just today Dominator 1000 openend this thread 9/11 breaktrough confession
in which a guy who is visibly sick and about to die soon, confesses that he was part of the Towers demolition team.
Off course the discussion is ongoing if legit or not.
What's interesting: he says they have been a team of 4
So that would match the description Daz gives.
a reply to: svetlana84
Yes, I just posted and watched the video in that thread.
However I am not convinced that this man had anything to do with 911 or being part of a grew of four of blowing up the WTC.
The reason is, this man leaves out every important details about his part of the demolition process.
Read my post in that thread, I give ten reason why this man is not credible.
As for the Remote Viewers seeing a crew of four to eight men involved in rigging the WTC and blowing them up, I do not discount their findings.
But this man that just made this video to clear his conscious, is BS, I don't believe him.
Just today Dominator 1000 openend this thread 9/11 breaktrough confession
Yes, I just posted and watched the video in that thread.
However I am not convinced that this man had anything to do with 911 or being part of a grew of four of blowing up the WTC.
The reason is, this man leaves out every important details about his part of the demolition process.
Read my post in that thread, I give ten reason why this man is not credible.
As for the Remote Viewers seeing a crew of four to eight men involved in rigging the WTC and blowing them up, I do not discount their findings.
But this man that just made this video to clear his conscious, is BS, I don't believe him.
a reply to: Informer1958
But...but...but I thought RVers could dial in the place and date at will ??
Did they see four people pressing their buttons?
Why haven't RVers dialed in the crews wiring up the buildings?
Oh ! those buildings were shielded too.
Look boss de plane ! de plane !
Can't they get the RVers to dial in the planes that day ?
RV is BS !
had a room specifically constructed to keep out any future Remote Viewers from viewing these powerful government terrorist viewing their meeting from that time period.
But...but...but I thought RVers could dial in the place and date at will ??
Did they see four people pressing their buttons?
Why haven't RVers dialed in the crews wiring up the buildings?
Oh ! those buildings were shielded too.
Look boss de plane ! de plane !
Can't they get the RVers to dial in the planes that day ?
RV is BS !
originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: Informer1958
had a room specifically constructed to keep out any future Remote Viewers from viewing these powerful government terrorist viewing their meeting from that time period.
RV is BS !
haha you wish!
originally posted by: intrptr
I didn't need to remote view the attacks, I saw the second plane fly into the second tower live on TV.
Did you see the plane fly into the Pentagon with all the cameras from that area? Would they show even one from any peticular angle?
a reply to: Informer1958
I have seen your post in the other thread. Well put together and reasonable, like all your post in this thread, i may add.
legit or not, the confession seems to be a dead end, not much info given we could use for further research.
An RV session on the guy would be interesting though.
I have seen your post in the other thread. Well put together and reasonable, like all your post in this thread, i may add.
legit or not, the confession seems to be a dead end, not much info given we could use for further research.
An RV session on the guy would be interesting though.
originally posted by: gflyg
originally posted by: intrptr
I didn't need to remote view the attacks, I saw the second plane fly into the second tower live on TV.
Did you see the plane fly into the Pentagon with all the cameras from that area? Would they show even one from any peticular angle?
Thats different. Being a defense establishment and the attack successful, they don't want to show all the angles they have of the plane at ground level coming into the building. As far as is it possible to pilot an airliner into something like that at ground level?
About 25 seconds into here…
edit on 7-4-2016 by intrptr because: time stamp
a reply to: svetlana84
So you believe Youtube videos at face value ?
Did you notice that the Farsight Institute has no address ?
But they do sell hoodies and shirts and mugs with their logo.
It's nice to see that they have RV info for every conspiracy out there.
Covering all their bases.
But they say nothing about MH370 ? Do you know why ?
We all know that MH370 has had a conspiracy cloud over it since it disappeared.
This could be their shining moment to tell us the secret of how it went down.
But Farsight can't take the chance of their info (predictions) being wrong.
Not one of their predictions has prevented or solved an incident.
It's like the snake oil salesmen of days gone by.
The salesman is 100 miles away by the time you figure out the medicine doesn't work.
you would find all the answer to your questions in this thread and or the videos posted.
So you believe Youtube videos at face value ?
Did you notice that the Farsight Institute has no address ?
But they do sell hoodies and shirts and mugs with their logo.
It's nice to see that they have RV info for every conspiracy out there.
Covering all their bases.
But they say nothing about MH370 ? Do you know why ?
We all know that MH370 has had a conspiracy cloud over it since it disappeared.
This could be their shining moment to tell us the secret of how it went down.
But Farsight can't take the chance of their info (predictions) being wrong.
Not one of their predictions has prevented or solved an incident.
It's like the snake oil salesmen of days gone by.
The salesman is 100 miles away by the time you figure out the medicine doesn't work.
a reply to: intrptr
That's an impressive video, seldom seen such a fast and low flyby with this type of plane.
However this TAP A310 is piloted by a very exoerienced professional.
I cant see someone trained on a single prop cessna with zero flight hours on anything bigger could even come close to this.
That's an impressive video, seldom seen such a fast and low flyby with this type of plane.
However this TAP A310 is piloted by a very exoerienced professional.
I cant see someone trained on a single prop cessna with zero flight hours on anything bigger could even come close to this.
a reply to: svetlana84
I can see it, hijacker didn't intend to pull out of the 'flyby' like your 'experienced pilot'. Given enough lead time, a long enough straight line approach and a big enough target, push throttles to their stops and guide her in.
He did just that, obviously.
However this TAP A310 is piloted by a very exoerienced professional.
I can't see someone trained on a single prop cessna with zero flight hours on anything bigger could even come close to this.
I can see it, hijacker didn't intend to pull out of the 'flyby' like your 'experienced pilot'. Given enough lead time, a long enough straight line approach and a big enough target, push throttles to their stops and guide her in.
He did just that, obviously.
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