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originally posted by: theboarman
a reply to: DJW001
There are dictators in Africa using the anti-GMO rhetoric to starve their people.
got any links or proof for that claim? im interested.
originally posted by: Jonbet
a reply to: theboarman
I agree. We didn't need gmo's for thousands of years and there is a definite conspiracy to poison us by any and all means available including the medicine that we are given.
originally posted by: Jonbet
a reply to: DJW001
I highly doubt that, in fact reject entirely the premise that they don't want us to eat gmo crops. They are practically forcing it on unwilling farmers who complain about it all the time.
You must be a propagandist if you are pushing that theory
originally posted by: theboarman
a reply to: DJW001
can you derailing my thread, thanks.
as to what you posted above about the countrys not wanting to take gmo, they have valid points for not taking them.
"I recall that there was GM maize meal on the local market a few months ago, which was marked 'not suitable for children under the age of 13'. What does that tell you about GM foods? We have been eating them because we had no choice, not now," said Noah Mataruse, 35, of the Mbare suburb in Harare.
"We took a position in 2002 that we will not accept unmilled maize. If we are to get any maize, it has to be milled first before it is distributed. Yes we have a section of our population in need of assistance, but that does not mean that we accept maize that can pose long-term impact on their heath and our farm produce, which has always been organic."
Malawi and Mozambique refused to accept GM food aid unless it was milled, this being seen as a precaution to avoid any germination of whole grains and to limit impacts on biodiversity;
Some approaches to GM food aid are identified in Box 4. Mozambique raised concerns about accepting GM maize aid on biosafety and human health grounds and opted to ban its import.
originally posted by: DJW001
originally posted by: theboarman
a reply to: DJW001
can you derailing my thread, thanks.
as to what you posted above about the countrys not wanting to take gmo, they have valid points for not taking them.
Sorry, but if people want to talk about GMO conspiracies... Anyway, is it reasonable to let people starve based on a flawed study? What points did you consider to be valid?
originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: intrptr
The 'real' study is us… since they removed GMO labeling, its a blind study, too.
There is no GMO labeling in the US, although some products will claim that they contain no GMOs. You can always purchase those.
Neither does GMO DNA. However, like some GM plants, many natural food plants produce pesticides. In fact, most do. Otherwise they would not survive.
Yah, but natural food DNA doesn't have pesticide in it
If GM plants are programmed to not germinate, how can there be any GM crops?
aren't programmed to not germinate,
Actually, natural plants have adapted to herbicides over the past decades. But of what importance is the time span?
and have adapted over eons, not twenty years time.
No. More like actual pesticides. Read the links. You said natural plants don't have pesticides. You are mistaken.
More like natural resistance to bugs, the foliage doesn't taste good so bugs don't eat it. The bugs don't die because they don't eat it.
Well, yes. And to cut down on the amount of spraying required.
The whole reason they put the pesticide gene in the DNA because they wanted to prevent the bugs eating the plant and fruit over the whole growth cycle.
Not so much super bugs. Just bugs resistant to a pesticide. So, they won't take over any more than they did before the pesticide was used.
Except like you explained, the bugs develop immunity , so the bugs adapt and win anyway, becoming super bugs that foreshadow a coming plague, the likes of which-- blah blah.
No, they aren't. Otherwise farmers would not be sued for replanting and selling, in violation of the terms of sale. Right? Except for a certain rice, I don't know of any claims that GM crops are "more healthy."
GMOs are most definitely programmed not to germinate so farmers have to buy seed from Monsanto every year… convenient that. Genetic modification to monopolize food for business interests, not to make it 'more healthy'.
Why would they do that?
In India the poor dirt farmers are killing themselves in droves drinking the pesticide provided for their crops because of it.
No. More like actual pesticides. Read the links. You said natural plants don't have pesticides. You are mistaken.
No, they aren't. Otherwise farmers would not be sued for replanting and selling, in violation of the terms of sale. Right? Except for a certain rice, I don't know of any claims that GM crops are "more healthy."