Masonic 'Art'.Deciphered?

originally posted by: KSigMason
a reply to: childofapoet
Except it is not. Your posts don't prove it either, it only shows your interpretation and opinions concerning certain symbols. Symbols are not tied exclusively or singularly tied or causes association to any one group, culture, organization, or institution. Symbols, as you even said yourself, have multiple meanings and thus can be used by different groups for differing reasons and still not be associated with each other, even with similar symbolism (again Nazi and Buddhist analogy I pointed out earlier and you acknowledged as well).

So what was the point of this post if you already agree?

a reply to: childofapoet
I'll say it slower...Symbols. Don't. Equal. Association. And. Freemasonry. Is. Not. An. Extension. Of. The. Vatican.

a reply to: KSigMason

I read that to quick. Can you say it slower please?

Thanks.

Rite Of Passage! A Way Of Life. And The Guardian(s). See Your Way Out Please.........

a reply to: childofapoet
Youre. Wrong.

FYI, it's "too quick" not "to quick".

Like I said before, symbols are not exclusively tied to any one group. The Masons using an Ark and the All-Seeing Eye doesn't make it a part of the Vatican. That is a far stretch.

Your assumption aside, every Grand Lodge (all 175+ of them) around the world is sovereign and independent. No other Grand Lodge, appendant/concordant body (like the Scottish Rite or York Rite), or non-Masonic organization (like the Vatican) has authority to interfere with, intrude upon, or govern another Grand Lodge. Every appendant/concordant body (like the Scottish Rite, York Rite, OES, Shriners, etc.) need permission from each Grand Lodge to operate/exist within that Grand Lodges jurisdiction. You have a lot to learn in regards to Freemasonry, how we're structured, how we operate, what we believe, and so on.

originally posted by: KSigMason
a reply to: childofapoet
Youre. Wrong.

FYI, it's "too quick" not "to quick".

I guess you didn't read my introduction to ATS?


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Because you can string a sentence together. Make it look pretty on paper. You think you can bully others? Because they do not use perfect grammar?

Have you ever even my grammar. She's proper fit. Banging. GILF even.


Snobs they call people like that. Bullies. Trolls. And worse.

Did you see your name in the list?

Have a lovely one : ) .

a reply to: childofapoet
No, I did not.

You can call it snobbery, but your posts seem to be careless and reckless, both in form and knowledge. Proper grammar is the foundation for effective and clear communication. Improper grammar demonstrates laziness, it takes away from the strength of the argument as the reader now has to decipher your poorly written work, and it lessens the impact of the words. It is altogether unprofessional.

Your ad hominem attack is noted, but it is not really relevant to this thread.

On this part I mean no offense, but your OP fails Freemasonry 101 (i.e. the basics). You really need to learn the basics, some history, and then move your way up to things symbol interpretation and definitions held by the fraternity.

double post

What would you make of this one?


from the 12th century, Fu Hsi and Nu Kua, Chinese creator Gods

originally posted by: intergalactic fire
What would you make of this one?

from the 12th century, Fu Hsi and Nu Kua, Chinese creator Gods

www.google.co.uk...=strict&q=egyption+staff+of+osiris< br />
en.wikipedia.org...

It looks similar to the Egyptian staff of Osiris.

Don't you think?



And this.

New York Financial District depicts two enormous intertwining snakes spiraling up to a pinecone (which is striking similar to the Staff of Osiris).

a reply to: childofapoet

Or the Caduceus of Hermes/Mercury which was derived from Ancient Egypt

The Pine Cone symbol is certainly linked to sacred geometry which was known way before Rome. Greece and Fibonacci (1170 AD)

a reply to: childofapoet
I don't think they are related, maybe just the double helix symbolism.
But it strikes me you didn't noticed the compass, square and plumb or even star constellation.

The pinecone, isn't that associated with the third eye? And the wings represent the journey?
Nothing to do with creation i believe.
But symbolism have different meanings as been said before, it takes years of knowledge to interpret its true meaning imo.

It's better to ask a Mason on the site what they believe it represents.

originally posted by: intergalactic fire
a reply to: childofapoet
I don't think they are related, maybe just the double helix symbolism.
But it strikes me you didn't noticed the compass, square and plumb or even star constellation.

The pinecone, isn't that associated with the third eye? And the wings represent the journey?
Nothing to do with creation i believe.
But symbolism have different meanings as been said before, it takes years of knowledge to interpret its true meaning imo.

It's better to ask a Mason on the site what they believe it represents.

I did notice but I just wanted to point out the big similarities. Because as soon as I say There is a Torus.

The bashing trolls jump on me.

But it is there thanks for the image. Do you have a link so I can see more of this?

Thanks.

a reply to: childofapoet

When are you going to accept that you don't know what a torus is? How many times do I, and others, have to tell you what a torus is? You can't just call something a torus unless it is one.

An image I have been working on.








The fan dance below in the video. Is the same thing. Flower of life. TORUS (all bow and hail the Torus. lol). I will making a thread soon of all the old and ancient folk dances, I have found to make the same Patten.


I love this dance.

Watch it.

Please, it is ever so beautiful.