The Mayan Calendar Ends On June 2nd, 2016 (Gregorian) or May 20th, 2016 (Julian)

originally posted by: Tiamat384
a reply to: neutrinostargate
I'm not complaining. But the point I made was that there was a discrepancy in what you were saying and what you are saying is based greatly on the accuracy of dates, based on the first portion of your research.

It did get the attention of people, but that attention initially was negative and now there are those, uhum, that continue to add nothing and insult even though there is no need because the thread is finally on its way and has been for quite a while already.

Ok, lets forget that back and forth manner of this and the nit picking on a one day difference. LOL

The question is, have you read my research and do you understand it or do you have any questions about it besides a 1 day difference?

a reply to: neutrinostargate

The Mayan Calendar Explained

The Maya and 2012 - timeline and references

These threads both explain how the Long Count extends past 13 baktun. Or do you deny the existence of higher order dates like piktuns and the date on Coba Stela 1?

a reply to: neutrinostargate
Not a question about the actual research, as I have little time to spare at this very moment (perhaps in a few hours), but what is the purpose of the research? This is a two part question.
1.What inspired you to do the research?
2.What is the purpose of the research? If untrue then it is meaningless. If it is true it is equally meaningless because we will be dead. At best (in terms of effect) you are either putting people into fear or making them less caring of the law and long term lives.

originally posted by: Tiamat384
a reply to: DutchMatrix
You're new, but you sound rather bright in comparison.

Welcome. And oh, I have my doubts about the OP returning.

Your new also in many books, you have been doing all you accuse the Op of. If you have a beef with his thread why not just opt out.

a reply to: neutrinostargate

But like I said before, even if the Long Count Calendar does have an end (let's stipulate for now, Xcalibur245, that it does), that "end" is only describing an arbitrary point on a continuous cycle (again, if we stipulate that the Long Count Calendar is describing the Earth's precession and the precession of the equinoxes).

The reason I say the endpoint is arbitrary is because since precession is a continuous cycle,there was no distinct astronomical event or astronomical position that would be called the starting point of the Calendar. So if the starting point is arbitrary, then so must the ending point be.

It's like the Gregorian Calendars' use of January 1 and December 31 as starting and ending points. Sure, one trip around the Sun is described by the beginning and ending of that calendar between those dates, but those dates are meaningless and arbitrary as a beginning and end.

It would be just as valid to say that the calendar begins at (say, for example) midnight starting August 17 and ends at the midnight that ends the next August 16. One trip around the sun is described by the dates between August 17 and the next August 16. That's just as valid as saying it begins on Jan 1 and ends the midnight of Dec 31. Neither January 1 nor August 17 have any astronomical significance in relationship to the Gregorian calendar, so there is no significance to the end of the calendar, no matter which start date is used.

Similarly, since there was no astronomical significance to the date on which the Long Count Calendar starts, there is no significance to the date that it ends.

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: neutrinostargate

The Mayan Calendar Explained

The Maya and 2012 - timeline and references

These threads both explain how the Long Count extends past 13 baktun. Or do you deny the existence of higher order dates like piktuns and the date on Coba Stela 1?

I already know that. I am talking about it being the end of the 13th baktun cycle, or the end of the 5th Sun.

Also, I am also discussing the end of the 52 year cycle when Sun lines up with Pleiades which is extremely important to the Mayans/Aztecs.

a reply to: Char-Lee
You pay little attention I see. Well good luck. As to my behavior clearly everyone has good and bad days. If you have a "beef" with me why not just opt out? What sort of terminology is that? I like beef mind you, but I'm not sure what it has to do in context of this thread.

originally posted by: Tiamat384
a reply to: neutrinostargate
Not a question about the actual research, as I have little time to spare at this very moment (perhaps in a few hours), but what is the purpose of the research? This is a two part question.
1.What inspired you to do the research?
2.What is the purpose of the research? If untrue then it is meaningless. If it is true it is equally meaningless because we will be dead. At best (in terms of effect) you are either putting people into fear or making them less caring of the law and long term lives.

Then read it! You haven't even done so. LOL

And you will see what inspired my research.

Well I am laying it out there. People can fear it, or find it rather exciting as it correlates with it being related to Revelation and Jesus return (whether it is physical or some other manner or sign). We have about 3 more months to find out. Hope nothing happens though.

a reply to: neutrinostargate
Frankly I am very busy right now and the research is in random areas. When I get the chance I will, though I did read the first piece. Didn't have the time last night for the rest.

Ok so, are you actually making a prediction or just explaining the possible reality that a previous prediction was off?

I'd gladly see an apocalyptic discussion, though less serious and more cosmic. For the mere fun. I doubt there will be many here that will fear as many, I believe, scrutinize and do not base beliefs off of things without observation. I mean that in a good way mind you. Can't seem to get the word I'm thinking of.

a reply to: neutrinostargate

The Maya did not talk about different Suns. That was part of Aztec mythology. So why would it be connected to the Long Count?

originally posted by: MrConspiracy
The Maya are fascinating. But never predicted the end of the world.

Rather the end of a cycle. What the ending of a cycle means, we don't really know. We know what they thought it meant but whether or not that was based on myths/faith or in reality...... I guess we'll never know. If something WAS meant to happen, they'd be severely disappointed had they not mysteriously vanished.

Those who discredit the Mayan calendar as "just a calendar" are wrong. I think it's sheer length and accuracy with the equinoxes is anything but ordinary. They clearly had a great knowledge of space, well beyond their apparent capabilities.

Not the end of the world. The start of a new cycle. What that means, I don't know. But looking around... if anything, the world iss going down hill with little signs of improvement so.... this age sucks.

What happens at the end of most cycles, rest, change, RENEWAL.

Your whole post is nice except for you claiming you don't know what that means

a reply to: ParasuvO

Or you pick up a book called biology then psychology, so what I'm saying " in the real world " there is something of a remnant called a reptilian brain in any living animal, but maybe you are an alien? The world really need to fix the whole American continent, I voted for letting it starve so the gene pool gets a fix, called a Darwin Award in the Nordic countries..

originally posted by: neutrinostargate

originally posted by: Kantjil
a reply to: neutrinostargate

I have loads of calenders at home, pick the one you want.. First dated calender is 6000 years old.. Babylon and their observatory, but im sure a Mason can tell you a story about magic and stuff..

The Egyptians and the Mayans used a 365 day solar calendar. That is the most accurate. And definitely not the Gregorian calendar at 365.2425 solar days.

Really? I always thought that the ancient calendar of the Bulgarians, called the Bulgar calendar, was the most accurate... I guess, one learns something new every day...

bnr.bg...

So do you want me to post my information further or not?

No, not really. Even if your math was dead-on, it means nothing. A fanciful belief something would occur at the end of a calendar created be a single civilization is ludicrous, and so your theory that the date of the end of a calendar was wrong means absolutely nothing.

Are you really selling a book? An insulting attitude towards your possible benefactors is equally as ridiculous as your theory. You are striking out on all fronts. Well done?

a reply to: fleabit

Glad I struck out with you because you sound like a imbecile fleabit. Now don't read this thread or my research since you don't like this subject apparently for that matter and get lost.

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: neutrinostargate

The Maya did not talk about different Suns. That was part of Aztec mythology. So why would it be connected to the Long Count?

Yes it was Aztec mythology . The Aztecs obviously took a lot of the Mayan's traditions and calendar as well. The 5 Suns has to do with the 5 5200 year cycles or 5 13 Baktun cycles. 5 cycles makes up a precession cycle. So you can see it is connected with the Long Count.

blog.world-mysteries.com...

originally posted by: Tiamat384
a reply to: neutrinostargate
Frankly I am very busy right now and the research is in random areas. When I get the chance I will, though I did read the first piece. Didn't have the time last night for the rest.

Ok so, are you actually making a prediction or just explaining the possible reality that a previous prediction was off?

I'd gladly see an apocalyptic discussion, though less serious and more cosmic. For the mere fun. I doubt there will be many here that will fear as many, I believe, scrutinize and do not base beliefs off of things without observation. I mean that in a good way mind you. Can't seem to get the word I'm thinking of.

I think it is fair to say that there are many things converging at this time.
1) Issac Newton end time connection hinting at this time
2) Major grand cross planetary alignment around June 3rd, 2016
3) Mayan Long Count ending at this time

I guess we shall soon see what the hell happens around June 2nd, 2016

Isaac Newton connection here:

www.logosapologia.org...

www.fivedoves.com...

It points to June 5th, 2016

Awesome share Neutrino.

Saying that, what the # is up with people saying "screw your research, cuz the world isn't gonna end!". NOTHING in what this guy posted ever said anything about the end of the world. He's talking about data basically. He never said something is gonna happen at the end, except that that calendar cycle or whatever will end, in the most literal sense. This is YOUR guys's problem, not his. YOU are the ones connecting it with end-world crap, not Neutrino.

Holy # had to go through probably 5 pages of this BS.

Not only that, but also 10s of responses saying "you didn't even post your research" when he did, they just didn't go on to see if he did, or "I didn't read your research, but I can tell you you're wrong". God DAMN. U can tell this grinds my gears a bit.
Why aren't mods cleaning up this # from this thread that's on the front page? It deserves it. But that's typical ATS for you.

originally posted by: ParasuvO

originally posted by: MrConspiracy
The Maya are fascinating. But never predicted the end of the world.

Rather the end of a cycle. What the ending of a cycle means, we don't really know. We know what they thought it meant but whether or not that was based on myths/faith or in reality...... I guess we'll never know. If something WAS meant to happen, they'd be severely disappointed had they not mysteriously vanished.

Those who discredit the Mayan calendar as "just a calendar" are wrong. I think it's sheer length and accuracy with the equinoxes is anything but ordinary. They clearly had a great knowledge of space, well beyond their apparent capabilities.

Not the end of the world. The start of a new cycle. What that means, I don't know. But looking around... if anything, the world iss going down hill with little signs of improvement so.... this age sucks.

What happens at the end of most cycles, rest, change, RENEWAL.

Your whole post is nice except for you claiming you don't know what that means

But yet, here we are in 2016 waiting for change and renewal. So does it really mean that? Does it mean anything?

It might have been significant to them... but was was meant to happen? I've witnessed no change. If anything, as mention, it's worsening.