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originally posted by: fleabit
You said you don't' want me to post any more information or more education of this subject for that matter. And you think it is a wasted theory and a pointless subject as such. So why are you still reading it and commenting? LOL
Because I enjoy combating stupidity whenever I can. And I am not commenting about you personally - don't take it as an insult. I won't insult you personally, even though you seem to enjoy insulting others. I think the entire premise that the Mayans or any ancient civilization would somehow have advanced knowledge of future events, is ridiculous.
Consider this: if it really started around 3k BC, they would have had to at that time, predicted a supposed event ending at this particular cycle. So some 5 thousands years prior, they predicted some tragic, religious, or world-ending event?
If the topic was solely about the end of a cycle of a calendar.. ok, cool. But you seem to be linking it to an event that you "hope doesn't happen." I will post about that, because heck.. who knows when we can prevent another group of brain-washed people from putting on new sneakers and killing themselves to hitch a ride on a comet.
The Importance and Significance of the New Fire Ceremony in Aztec Society and Culture Ritual and religious life was very important in Aztecs Mexica.The New Fire Ceremony, or Xiuhtlalpilli, also known as the “binding of the years,” was an Aztec ritual of cosmic renewal, occurring every fifty two years involving both state and households . The Aztecs believed that the world having been created and destroyed and its renewal was cause for celebration.
The Aztecs perform a special religious ceremony called the Dance of the New Fire (or Ceremony of the New Fire) once every 52 years to ensure the movement of the cosmos and the rebirth of the sun. This 52 year time period also corresponds to the 260-day religious calendar (Tonalpohualli in Aztec, or Tolkin in Mayan) when it interlocks with the 365-day civil calendar (Xiupohualli in Aztec or Haab in Mayan). Every 52 Haab solar years (73 Tolkin years) these calendars coincide. This was sometimes called by the Aztecs the Calendar Round. The 52 year cycle was said to begin when the Pleiades crossed the fifth cardinal point or the zenith of heaven at midnight. Sometimes not only is the Pleiades in its zenith over Mesoamerica, but this alignment also comes into a full conjunction with the sun (as we will see again in the 21st Century).
The Pyramid of the Sun outside Mexico City at Teotihuacan is said to be aligned with the Pleiades, for its west face and many of the surrounding streets were aligned directly with the setting point of the Pleiades on midnight of the night when it is at its highest point. The Pleiades was clearly revered also by the Mayans, who in the area of Chichen Itza knew that the Sun casts a snake-like shadow on the side of the north stairway of the Kukulcan pyramid during the spring equinox. Some scholars have calculated that about 60 days after this shadow’s appearance, when the sun reaches its zenith over the Pyramid at mid-day (May 20 – May 23), there is another direct alignment with the Pleiades. This Pleiades-sun alignment may have a direct connection with Quetzalcoatl, the feathered serpent that came to bring a greater wisdom to the planet.
The New Fire ceremony (in Nahuatl xiuhmolpilli—the Binding of the Years) was an Aztec ceremony performed once every 52 years — a full cycle of the Aztec calendar— in order to stave off the end of the world.
"The New Fire Ceremony By far the most important festival of all in the Mexica (Aztec) calendar was that held once every 52 years (a pre-Hispanic ‘century’) to welcome in the new calendar round, when both Sun and Moon calendars re-started together. To have lived to see - and remember - a New Fire Ceremony was something every Aztec grandparent longed to tell their grandchildren... The Aztecs believed that, after the Fifth Sun, the world was likely to come to an end again at the close of any 52-year cycle - by fire, or wind, earthquake or flood: or it might be that Glass Butterfly, the Lightning Goddess, would perpetrate the destruction."
New Fire Ceremony Every 52 years "Among the ancient Aztec people of what is now Mexico, the year was divided into 18 months of 20 days each, plus a five-day "unlucky" period. There was also a ritualistic period of 260 days, which was composed of 13 months with 20 named days in each month. When one cycle was superimposed on the other, it resulted in a "century" of 52 years. Although festivals were observed each month, the most impressive and important occurred at the end of the 52-year cycle, when people feared that the world would be destroyed. It was known as the New Fire Ceremony because the old altar fire was extinguished and a new one was lit, symbolizing the new lease on life that the dawn of a new cycle represented."
"Among the ancient Aztec people of what is now Mexico, the year was divided into 18 months of 20 days each, plus a five-day "unlucky" period. There was also a ritualistic period of 260 days, which was composed of 13 months with 20 named days in each month. When one cycle was superimposed on the other, it resulted in a "century" of 52 years. Although festivals were observed each month, the most impressive and important occurred at the end of the 52-year cycle, when people feared that the world would be destroyed. It was known as the New Fire Ceremony because the old altar fire was extinguished and a new one was lit, symbolizing the new lease on life that the dawn of a new cycle represented."
originally posted by: neutrinostargate
There is no doubt in my mind with my research that the Mayan Long Count calendar ends in about 3 months from now. June 2nd, 2016 (Gregorian) or May 20th, 2016 (Julian).
The Gregorian calendar that we use now is clearly wrong.
And I can clearly show you why.
originally posted by: JourneymanWelder
originally posted by: neutrinostargate
There is no doubt in my mind with my research that the Mayan Long Count calendar ends in about 3 months from now. June 2nd, 2016 (Gregorian) or May 20th, 2016 (Julian).
The Gregorian calendar that we use now is clearly wrong.
And I can clearly show you why.
you ever think maybe they got lazy and just stopped at a random date? im willing to bet you a nickel thats what happened. see you on may 20th nothing will happen, dont quit your day job.
"144000 is a natural number. It has significance in several religious movements. In the Mayan calendar, a baktun is a period of 144,000 days."
Revelation 14:3–5 (ESV) And they were singing a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and before the elders. No one could learn that song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. For it is these who have not defiled themselves with women, for they are virgins. It is these who follow the Lamb wherever he goes. These have been redeemed from mankind as firstfruits for God and the Lamb, and in their mouth no lie was found, for they are blameless.
originally posted by: Daavin
So for giggles I went to your website, which is basically a buy my book BS site. sorry bud but you might want to find another topic the Mayan gravy train left 4 years ago. Oh and BTW that is against ATS T&C policy
originally posted by: Daavin
a reply to: neutrinostargate
The one you sourced in your original post
originally posted by: Daavin
a reply to: neutrinostargate
so you are stating that all the numbers that you have posted as your research, which is word for word from the link you provided here
www.ancient-world-mysteries.com...
Is not your own research?
originally posted by: Daavin
I popped back in to see the train-wreck, and notice OP that you didn't learn much. name calling and insults won't win a crowd of well read critics. While I see you may have some interesting numbers, you lost me around page 4. Next time try not reacting to criticism with insults and maybe I'll read what you have to say.
peace
Daavin
originally posted by: Daavin
a reply to: neutrinostargate
from the website
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originally posted by: Daavin
i deserve to be insulted? ok you can go on thinking that, have a nice day.
Peace
Daavin