Scalia Death Suspicious "We discovered the judge in bed, a pillow over his head."

a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Yessiree. Came right out of Cinderala's mouth during an interview.

Scalia wasn't even specifically invited, he was a guest of an invitee:

Scalia, who was scheduled to return to Washington on Sunday, had little time to avail himself of the ranch's offerings. Poindexter said he had only met Scalia once before briefly, in Washington. Scalia came to the ranch because he was friends another guest.
Poindexter said he knew the other guests.

"All the guests were friends of mine, I paid for all of them. There were no politics, no jurisprudence in the slightest," he said.

"This was strictly a group of friends that the judge decided to join. He was coming with his son who had to drop out for reasons I don't' know.

"It was an honor to have him. He was widely admired. There were no speeches. He wasn't asked any hard questions, it was all about the outdoors and Texas, and what it's like to being a Supreme Court Justice," he said.

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originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: Indigo5

Make that a quadruple post!

No kidding. I have some weird network thing going on, but that was my first quadruple post....clicking "reply" here slowly and carefully..

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: Indigo5

Make that a quadruple post!

No kidding. I have some weird network thing going on, but that was my first quadruple post....clicking "reply" here slowly and carefully..

I have never made a double post until today! I am having a hard time getting comments to 'star', as well. Yep, something hinky is going on on the site today. Carry on.

a reply to: Rocker2013

What evidence?

Isn't that the point? Why no autopsy? Especially when the person involved is a very high profile, and high ranking govt. official.

This isn't about Republican, or Democrat. It's about "What the Hell happened?". If it's an old man dying in his sleep, so be it.

If it's an old man dying of "over exertion", so be it. But the truth should be told. Shouldn't it?

originally posted by: texasgirl

a reply to: Indigo5

If Sheriff Dominguez assured her there was no foul play, why did she take his word for it? I provided a link to show that his police force is questionable so it casts doubt on the story.

The US Marshalls Service (Judicial Security Branch) arrived via helicopter and was on the phone with her as I remember reading?

I never called her a maniac but it was not her place to tell a mom her daughters death was because she didn't accept Jesus as her savior! That's just nuts.

Well that does sound nuts...can you provide a reliable link supporting the above?

I'm still watching Alex Jones' broadcast. Wayne Madsen said that he spoke with the person who embalmed Scalia in the El Paso funeral home.....



Apparently they flushed Scalia's body fluids down the drain. Seriously??????

I can't believe this.

They have reporters in Texas who are looking into this, inc. Madsen. Again, if anyone wants to see this, here's the link to Jones' free live feed:

Alex Jones Free Live Feed

a reply to: Indigo5

The next day, after the pronouncement of death had already been made.

They were not part of his visit:

In a statement Sunday, the U.S. Marshals Service, which provides security for Supreme Court justices, said that Scalia had declined a security detail while at the ranch, so marshals were not present when he died.

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a reply to: Indigo5

Here ya go:

No one contacted me. I found out that Sheriff Dominguez had not contacted anyone to question them about the night of my daughter's death. I made an appointment with the JP to discuss this and other things on the Monday following Melaney'€™s death, August 12, 2013. My sister and I and other members of our family talked to the Justice of the Peace, Cinderela Guevara (yes, that i€™s her real name). When we asked if a rape kit had been ordered, she seemed surprised. She said she had only ordered a toxicology report. We did not understand until later that she meant she had only ordered a toxicology report and not an autopsy. She later tried to say that it was Dr. Contin'€™s suggestion because she thought the cause of death was obvious. My sister asked her at one meeting, "€œWith all due respect, Judge, how do you know she wasn't already dead when she was hit by the train?" Ms. Guevara said nothing to that and just stared nervously at my sister. Had the possibility never entered her mind? What was called an autopsy report, so they could insist that an autopsy had been performed, were two pages signed by Dr. Contin on the evening of August 8, 2013, stating that "after investigation" it was determined that Melaney "intentionally placed herself on the tracks" and the cause of death was suicide. It appears that Dr. Contin only did a superficial visual examination and never took any samples or tissues, other than from the liver (approximately 8 hours after her death on a summer night) for the toxicology report. After researching the finding, we found that samples should not be taken from the liver, especially after physical trauma, because of the possibility of contamination.

The Union Pacific Railroad claims representative told our attorney that if they had known an autopsy had not been ordered they would have paid for one. We, of course, would have offered to pay for one if anyone had told us there was no autopsy ordered. We believed an autopsy had been performed and had my daughter'€™s body cremated. Unfortunately, her husband's family wanted everything over with as soon as possible and asked to have it done immediately. That was our collective mistake, but we were all so much in grief that everything was passing in a daze and the ramifications did not become clear for some time.

My sister and my daughter'€™s paternal aunt and I went to see Cinderela Guevara several times. I went to see her alone two times. I am very lucky I never called her, I just showed up by myself and she saw me.

When she was alone with me, Ms. Guevara asked about my religious beliefs several times. We spoke about the Catholic faith and on September 3, 2013, when I met with her, she told me that she had prayed to God for an answer as to whether it was suicide or not and asked God to give her an answer in the video. She said she did not receive an answer as to that, but she did receive an answer from God. She stated to me that God told her that, yes this was a tragedy, but the true tragedy was that Melaney had died without accepting Jesus Christ as her savior.

all emphases mine

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Been posted a couple of times already.

WAIT A MINUTE FOLKS WE MAY HAVE SOMETHING HERE!

This is odd.

I brought this up, the Cheney accident, as somewhat of a tongue in cheek post regarding the famous Cheney hunting accident.

It turns out this Cheney event is practically on the same date as the Scalia events!...10 years ago...

Scalia was on a hunting trip in Texas as well. He dies 2 /13/16

The Cheney event was on 2/11/16


The guy Cheney shot HAD A HEART ATTACK on 2/14/16

"On around February 11, 2006, then U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney shot Harry Whittington, a 78-year-old Texas attorney, while participating in a quail hunt on a ranch in Riviera, Texas.[1] Both Cheney and Whittington called the incident an accident.
The incident was reported to the Corpus Christi Caller-Times on February 12, 2006, by ranch owner Katharine Armstrong.[2] The Bush administration disclosed the shooting incident to the public the afternoon of February 12. Local authorities released a report on the shooting on February 16, 2006, and witness statements on February 22.
On February 14, 2006, Whittington suffered a non-fatal heart attack and atrial fibrillation due to at least one lead-shot pellet lodged in or near his heart.[3] Cheney did not speak publicly about the incident until February 15 in an interview with Fox News. Early reports indicated that Cheney and Whittington were friends and that the injuries were minor. Whittington has since told the Washington Post that he and Cheney were not close friends but acquaintances.[4]"
en.wikipedia.org...

Strange?

Questions?

What was Scalia doing on 2/11

What is the significance of the date period 2/11 to 2/ 14

Track this down guys I have to do some things

we finally may have something REAL

What does Scalia and this guy Cheney shot have in common

Is this merely the hunting season?

That may be the case, nevertheless it's worth looking into

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: Rocker2013

What evidence?

Isn't that the point? Why no autopsy? Especially when the person involved is a very high profile, and high ranking govt. official.

Well...Some would claim that Justice Scalia's personal physician made a compelling case that he was on his last legs..

Rear Admiral Brian P. Monahan
www.navy.mil...

And both Federal and local investigators were on the scene with the US Marshalls service and no one found evidence of foul play.

You can claim "What Evidence"...but there is evidence...you just might not find it sufficient for your wants..

As far as autopsy being required for any High Ranking Government official...That seems excessive and in some cases contrary to family and religious preferences...and frankly a little odd that so many on the right are suddenly acting as if this is unusual...Can you tell me how many Supreme Court Justices who have died have received autopsies? How many Presidents?

a reply to: Willtell

Quail hunting season in Texas ends Feb. 28th.

a reply to: Indigo5

And both Federal and local investigators were on the scene with the US Marshalls service and no one found evidence of foul play.

Federal officials did not arrive until the next day. There were no law enforcement officials, other than local sheriff to determine whether or not there were signs of foul play.

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: texasgirl
a reply to: Indigo5

Poindexter told the news that he paid for his guests to be there. "I paid for it all," I believe he was quoted.

Interesting. VERY interesting.[/quote

My bad. He actually said "I paid for all of them."

a reply to: Indigo5

There's nothing in that link confirming "The Dr." talked to anybody about Scalia.

And nothing confirming "The Dr." actually talked to "Cinderela" on the phone.

Well since we're throwing common sense out the window...

Perhaps it might have been a male prostitute that caused Scalia to have a heart attack...have we had any reports of gay sex toys being found in the room?

a reply to: Willtell

On a related note, I heard that when asked to say something about Scalia's death, that Dick Cheney said "no comment."

Very interesting.

originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
a reply to: Indigo5

The next day, after the pronouncement of death had already been made.

They were not part of his visit:

In a statement Sunday, the U.S. Marshals Service, which provides security for Supreme Court justices, said that Scalia had declined a security detail while at the ranch, so marshals were not present when he died.

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You seem to be confusing a timeline.

No...they were not part of his visit...Yes...they were called when his body was discovered and arrived via helicopter..

The U.S. Marshals Service, the Presidio County sheriff and the FBI were involved in the investigation. Officials with the local law enforcement agencies declined to comment.

www.expressnews.com...

Thanks to all providing links for me. I'm on my phone and have been sneaking onto this forum so I can't post links.

a reply to: Indigo5

...and I've no reason to doubt the mans veracity. None.

However...

How do we know that he did indeed die under the circumstances posited without having them investigated?

I'm not omniscient. No one else is, either, that I'm aware of.

I'm not saying he was murdered, or even died under embarrassing circumstances...I'm saying we don't know that he didn't.

It should have been investigated much, much further than it was.