Undisputed proof that demons do exist.

originally posted by: DeathSlayer
It is IMO this one article destroys any beliefs atheists and other non-believers might have concerning demons.... a spiritual being.

Really? Something someone *wrote* is PROOF of demons and destroys an atheistic viewpoint?

If I told you I had an article written about you, claiming you are in fact a murdered and drug dealer, would that by default equate to proof and truth? If you were being convicted of a crime you didn't commit, would you want the evidence against you to be merely a written statement? WOuld you be happy enough for that to convict you? Or, would you prefer proper scientific evidence both in the claims against and your defence?

Please. Proof is in the empirical evidence, not someone's opinion.

a reply to: DeathSlayer

I would love to be shown something but with such topics, even from the family that lived there they did not think to record anything, photograph, anything. I really hate to put something down but it just makes me mad that still stories like this surface with no evidence.

If it was me and I really felt like this was a problem and saw things, felt things whichever. I would set up hardware to record and prove my fears. Not just talk about it.

originally posted by: Raggedyman
The article proves nothing
Only that some people are delusional and are linked in some kind of mass mind trick, probably all hypnotised

The only real way to prove anything is with real hard data, scientific evidence, real scientists.

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I think some of the people who claimed to see entities that "werent there" should be vindicated now.

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originally posted by: Xtrozero
I have always thought of setting up a 24/7 network feed of a haunted place. I thought of this from the Ghost Hunters series in they give it only one night and what if you had an endless stream of weeks/months of video and audio.

With an "amplifier" you could get your results a lot faster. I could serve as the amplifier.

I'm also interested to do it in places that became a "mass graveyard" for dinosaurs. Every living thing has a soul and I think it would be interesting to rouse the spirits of these magnificent beasts.

In fact, fossil repositories for dinosaurs would do just fine. You know, just let them sense some life and let's see what happens, how really mighty these dinosaurs were.

a reply to: Jay-morris

I know what you mean.That is why i am not an outright atheist,and never will be. I mean to each their own,atheists do not offend me,and i would certainly feel more likely to trust+be at ease around atheists than around most Christians on this planet.From experience i have learned you don't turn your back to Them unless you're wearing double-Kevlar and have eyes in the back of your head.But to be fair,i hate all religions not just Christianity.

Point being, i have on many occasions in my life felt a connection with some Source,a very much warm and absolutely non-hateful,non-judgemental entity- though entity is not the right word,if i want to be accurate.I call it "the great warmth" because it comes closest.

But that bloodthirsty..Thing from the bible..Just NO..once you have connected with the great warmth there can be no room for doubt.It is just not possible.

Look i used to go church services with an elderly friend who has since passed away,as a favor to her -its not like i Cannot be in a church like like that kid frim The Omen and the people there,Methodists,were for the most part really nice for Christians.The woman pastor was a really nice woman too,very down to earth.

But all in all, ya once you have felt that connection to the great warmth that feels to me,personally, like a connection to our true soul-Source,then religion feels even more obscene and repugnant.

a reply to: SoulSurfer

... and the link to the peer-reviewed article in the peer-reviewed journal that published Dr. Santilli's work?

I mean, if we're going to call this science, we have to have more than one guy saying it, right?

a reply to: GoShredAK

I take you pint, but have you actually witnessed a daemon or other entity? That's what it boils down to in our version of the world and how we explain things.

I know my cat sees a completely different world and often alertly watches, for a long time an empty space. However I would make the point to you that she never suddenly moves as though scared whereby presumably a daemon would scare the life out of puss, so I can only presume she sees something I can't - but its not malevolent.

originally posted by: GoShredAK

Man johndeere!

Big waves aaaand. Ghost hunting!?

Not gonna mess with you since you clearly live for danger and fear.

Just kidding my friend!

And sorry for being OT

That's funny. Actually, we are still on topic...

The powerful kinds of entities when come upon you, the sensation is like being swallowed by a huge wave, literally speaking.

I've done it only a few times, resonated with it. On every occasion, electronics have gone crazy. Just very little opportunity to demonstrate it now. I could not let my old folks know. They will think I'm demon-possessed and it will break their heart.

oh yes my friend , demons do exist , however I am not an atheist I don't believe in a single god , I respect all religions and cultures , Demons ive seen them , have dealt with them and yes , these problems with them have put me in a looney ward . However I have not had many problems for the last few years as I am not scared anymore , some one gets poked enough you poke back and when I do c them now I eye them down . I know when there around but for some reason in the last 3 years there is something aiding me , helping me ,just maybe they were my own demons that I had to face . Every one has demons , Entities r another thing , they don't respect you or your loved ones they pick your weakness and attack it , so lets see ,I want the devil to come and dance with me and I can tell you this I am not scared of the jarjatti as I have a protector her name is dagargen I see entities all the time but just look at this wold we live in real live demons are every were
. you this a reply to: DeathSlayer

originally posted by: johndeere2020

originally posted by: GoShredAK

Man johndeere!

Big waves aaaand. Ghost hunting!?

Not gonna mess with you since you clearly live for danger and fear.

Just kidding my friend!

And sorry for being OT

That's funny. Actually, we are still on topic...

The powerful kinds of entities when come upon you, the sensation is like being swallowed by a huge wave, literally speaking.

I've done it only a few times, resonated with it. On every occasion, electronics have gone crazy. Just very little opportunity to demonstrate it now. I could not let my old folks know. They will think I'm demon-possessed and it will break their heart.

One of the reasons why attempting to film a supernatural act almost NEVER works. A sound recording most of the time yes but film .... very very rare if any.... For some unexplained reason ..... unseen entities can filter out themselves from film but they can not do this to their physical surroundings...example....one of them throw a chair..... you see the chair flying through the air but no sign of the entity.

originally posted by: normipoo
oh yes my friend , demons do exist , however I am not an atheist I don't believe in a single god , I respect all religions and cultures , Demons ive seen them , have dealt with them and yes , these problems with them have put me in a looney ward . However I have not had many problems for the last few years as I am not scared anymore , some one gets poked enough you poke back and when I do c them now I eye them down . I know when there around but for some reason in the last 3 years there is something aiding me , helping me ,just maybe they were my own demons that I had to face . Every one has demons , Entities r another thing , they don't respect you or your loved ones they pick your weakness and attack it , so lets see ,I want the devil to come and dance with me and I can tell you this I am not scared of the jarjatti as I have a protector her name is dagargen I see entities all the time but just look at this wold we live in real live demons are every were
. you this a reply to: DeathSlayer

First off.... you are not crazy so stop going to the looney ward.

I guess instead off saying demons (because some people want to argue this point) evil spirits, can manifest right in front of you, especially if they know it will freak you out. If it comes to the point where they can manifest themselves this means they have already been hanging around you for a few weeks...maybe a few months OR you have challenged them by insults and/or made commands to them without authority or you walked into an area that is highly active with spirits because after manifestation comes smells.... like the sweet scent of dead human flesh smells or a smell like someone has not flushed the toilet after a few months or dead fish ( a possible sign) but if your smelling sulfur hang on to your panties something bad is going to happen.

It normally starts with small physical attacks like scratch marks on your body (3 scratch marks - they always feel like they are burning), then physical illness, now this can be upset stomach then vomiting, severe migraine headaches until you leave the area, dizziness is a biggy but hanging around can cause permanent health issues.... and I don't want to get into this area because if will stir the pot and out come the hecklers.....

a reply to: DeathSlayer

Demons are the explicit manifestation of those that actually believe in them, if you truly believe that you could be possessed you are inviting negative energies into your body and mind.

originally posted by: DeathSlayerone of them throw a chair..... you see the chair flying through the air but no sign of the entity.

I think that is good enough "evidence" especially if you have skeptics had setup everything themselves of the choice of their location, and using their own equipment to avoid any chance of tampering.

That should cancel all doubts. Unfortunately, when the skeptics that are present (usually) become believers themselves, they they then become the subject of persecution by other skeptics. The vicious cycle goes on and on....

Perhaps, it could only be strongly proven if manifestations can be made strong enough to affect a whole city and actually makes breaking news.

I could try but damn, it's like like swimming in the ocean in the middle of a perfect storm!

originally posted by: GoShredAK

Man johndeere!

Big waves aaaand. Ghost hunting!?

Not gonna mess with you since you clearly live for danger and fear.

Just kidding my friend!

And sorry for being OT

Too bad I couldn't edit my post. Better way to say it, the two things are alike - it's like being in the middle of a perfect storm.

If you ever heard the song "Dark Horse" by Katy Perry, the lyrics of the song is a fairly accurate depiction of what you will face if you mess up with the supernatural.

These guys are clearly messing with the Occult, else, it's an extremely unlikely coincidence which is still quite intriguing in itself.

By the hand of fate, Vincent Van Gogh also made reference to it. I really doubt that Van Gogh ever dove into the Occult. However, that he was approached by the same entity, the answer would be very likely.

We are facing an unstoppable force, just hoping and fingers crossed, it is working for our side!

a reply to: Murgatroid

Science, the illuminati religion? Science is Mind Control for the masses? You have really gone off the deep end.

Why not just throw away your cult-infested mind controlled computer?

originally posted by: Woodcarver Medicine and mental health has an enormous body of work. Murgatroid : An enormous work of fiction would be more correct...

Really? You think medicine and mental health is just an enormous work of fiction?

What evidence do you have to prove that claim? The bible?

originally posted by: SoulSurfer

originally posted by: Raggedyman
The article proves nothing
Only that some people are delusional and are linked in some kind of mass mind trick, probably all hypnotised

The only real way to prove anything is with real hard data, scientific evidence, real scientists.

OKAY!!

THIS JUST IN! (Almost Breaking News) Recently discovered ITES!

And get this

wait for it...


wait for it...

Its REAL SCIENCE.

I think some of the people who claimed to see entities that "werent there" should be vindicated now.

Edit: Science discovers invisible entities of Anti Matter

I encourage you to look deeper into that article. The scientists involved are a team of two people owning a penny stock company using very dubious technology.

All they are using is an inverted lens. There isn't the slightest real evidence showing those are entities of any kind.

I do believe they exist, and are working behind the scene of our physical world .. in some occasions they show themselves like the normal benevolent entities do.

There where there's hate and war they are around to feed off this hatred imo.

Just look at the world now , it's the ideal world for them right now...

originally posted by: blueman12
You have really gone off the deep end.

FYI, the deep end of the pool is for the grown ups.

You want evidence?

Ditch the floaties...

As long as you stay in that shallow PC kiddy pool, no amount of evidence will convince you.

oNe time, when I was at a deep deep low moment in my life, a demon talked to me (thru a cell phone). I was not scared though. I didn't understand him, he was talking in a different language. I kept calling the number back bc I wanted to hear him again and tell him to leave me alone.

I have never "heard voices" or anything before in my life "except for random music a cpl times lately". I could have gone one of 2 ways after this happened...

Gotten scared and told everyone and be put in a looney bin and been put on drugs to keep me calm

or

Keep it to myself knowing that it was my mind playing tricks on me (that's how evil works) and I was not going to let him win, which is what I did, am Im still alive and kickin', doing great. I almost think the fact that he was trying to pull me down further pissed me off so much that it made me bounce back even quicker.

I told just a couple people about this, one of them my psychic friend...She says that ghosts/energies know how to mess with phone lines and like to mess/reach out to people that way.

originally posted by: veracity
...a demon talked to me (thru a cell phone)...She says that ghosts/energies know how to mess with phone lines and like to mess/reach out to people that way.

So does God, your experience reminded me of one of Vincent Tan's encounter.

God miraculously caused two distant phones to ring simultaneously as an answer to a dying woman's last prayer...

Vincent Tan, a chemist in Chattanooga had a supernatural encounter with an Angel in March of 1993. (Explained here) A woman in Iowa who was diagnosed with cancer and near death read about Vincent's experience.

On Saturday, April 6, 1996, Vincent was awakened at 4:30 a.m. with a burden to pray. He slipped to his knees beside his bed for a few moments, after which he returned to bed and to sleep. He arose later, and at 7 a.m. began his morning prayer time. At 7:30, as he was still praying, the telephone rang. So as not to be disturbed, he decided to let the answering machine take the call.

"Hello," Vincent said. Surprisingly, the other party also said, "Hello." Again, Vincent said, "Hello." Again, the lady on the other end said, "Hello." Vincent asked, "Do you want to speak to me?" The lady said, "No."

Vincent then asked, "Then why did you call me?" The lady said, "I didn't call you." Vincent explained that his phone rang and he had answered it. The lady said the same thing happened to her--that her phone rang and she had answered it. Vincent told her his name, and she said her name was Doris, and that she was in Iowa. They both concluded that somehow their lines must've become crossed, causing this freak mishap.

But in another surprise, Doris asked, "Are you the same Vincent who had an experience with an angel?" Vincent said yes. She said that every day for the past six months her mother had prayed that she would be able to meet or speak with Vincent before she died. In her prayers about this, she had claimed the promises of Jeremiah 32:27, which says, "Behold, I am the LORD, the God of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me?" and Jeremiah 33:3: "Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and shew thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not." Doris explained that her mother was near death, and how that very morning, at 3:30 a.m., Iowa time (the exact same as Vincent's prayer at 4:30 a.m., Eastern Time) she was awake and felt led to seek the Lord and remind Him of her mother's request. She asked if Vincent would speak with her mother, to which Vincent agreed. At the end of his description, Vincent heard the mother say weakly, "Praise the Lord. Amen." This was followed by silence. All was strangely quiet. Vincent waited, thinking that Doris was taking him off the speaker. After a few moments, Doris broke the silence and came back on the regular telephone. "Praise the Lord," she said. "My mother just died." Quoted from here