Arizona students, principal under fire over picture of T-shirts spelling out racial slur

Well, at least they didn't have a confederate flag. They'd be eligible for the death penalty then.

I think it's terrible, all the people who were tragically and critically offended by this. I'm sure visits to the ER and "comfort centers" are at their max right now.

originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: uncommitted

At a micro level, that happens to all of us all the time - how many on ATS have viewed a web site or two and became convinced HAARP controls the weather because they saw it on the internet?

You mean they don't!? DAMN!

Nope, you must have been thinking of chemtrails..........................

a reply to: Abysha

Yes, they put a racial slur online. And yes, it did indeed offend someone. I do not blame the offended party, I blame society for blowing this out of proportion and looking to ruin these girls' lives because of it.

You ask for a harsher punishment, what is your idea of one?

Do you also want to expel them and possibly ruin their chances at college? Or like I have said earlier would you go for counseling, therapy, group sessions, etc. Something that may actually help them change their ways in the long run instead of just punishing them without educating them as to what they did.

originally posted by: CalibratedZeus
a reply to: Abysha

Yes, they put a racial slur online. And yes, it did indeed offend someone. I do not blame the offended party, I blame society for blowing this out of proportion and looking to ruin these girls' lives because of it.

You ask for a harsher punishment, what is your idea of one?

Do you also want to expel them and possibly ruin their chances at college? Or like I have said earlier would you go for counseling, therapy, group sessions, etc. Something that may actually help them change their ways in the long run instead of just punishing them without educating them as to what they did.

I would opt for your route of response. A constructive punishment. Five days suspension is neither enough nor helpful.

a reply to: TzarChasm

I don't know what you're arguing against. Your friends (plural) are racist and you're (singular) not. My assertion is most big city suburbanites are racist and I'll bet the farm on that being true.

A bit deeper, but I promise a conversation premised upon a majority being racist will get you further than any pc bs you try and pull. You think blacks don't rip on whites when they're amongst themselves?? They laugh at you whites who go around saying you don't see color and that type of bs.

So, the take away is?

If you are making light of a dark matter, you had damned well better be a physicist.

This is real BTW folks, a friend of a friend knows one of these girls. While I agree it was a poor decision, what happened to freedom of speech and freedom of expression?

We let the KKK hold public rallies shouting slurs and being bigots which pisses off thousands of people. But yet they are constitutionally protected from punishment and these girls are not? I can understand being suspended for violation of school policy but if any further action is taken outside of school then this proves the whole constitution is kaput.

a reply to: PraetorianAZ

Too late.

Several people have suffered second and third degree butthurts now. This is a wide-spread medical emergency.

I think the Dept. of Justice needs to get involved.

a reply to: PraetorianAZ

fair enough if that is the case, but it was posted on reddit as photoshopbattle picture, i thought maybe letters had been rearanged or something? peace

A direct quote from the article "the girls were off on their own when they took the picture". I want to know more about that. If it means that the girls were off of school property, on their own time, what does the school have to do with it? Why is the school even involved?
While it may not be too smart, there was no crime committed. As a matter of fact I think that it is probably covered by the First Amendment.

What I want to know is when did schools get the authority to punish students for things that happened outside of school? Nobody is asking about this.

By the way, there is are cable television networks that show old shows from the 70's. shows like "Sanford and Son" and "The Jeffersons", the "n-word" is pretty common on those shows.

And then someone became offended. It wouldn't be a story if nobody was offended.


I agree that six Students displayed a poor decision by spelling out a slur and posting it online. But they are completely 110% within their rights to do so. Free of punishment. Don't like it get rid of the first amendment.








This is in reply to Abysha

I don't think those girls should be suspended or lose their scholarships. But a year of community service at an inner city old folks home might be appropriate.

Some of those girls are going to get their ass beat at school anyway. Most of them will probably transfer to a nice private school but it won't matter because this dumb ass stunt will follow them for a long time. They brought the heat down on themselves.

I totally agree with the 1st....but for Christ sake take some personal responsibility when you ++++ up!!

originally posted by: olaru12
I don't think those girls should be suspended or lose their scholarships. But a year of community service at an inner city old folks home might be appropriate.

Some of those girls are going to get their ass beat at school anyway. Most of them will probably transfer to a nice private school but it won't matter because this dumb ass stunt will follow them for a long time. The brought the heat down on themselves.

You cant take action on these girls outside of school without violating their constitutional rights.

originally posted by: PraetorianAZ

originally posted by: olaru12
I don't think those girls should be suspended or lose their scholarships. But a year of community service at an inner city old folks home might be appropriate.

Some of those girls are going to get their ass beat at school anyway. Most of them will probably transfer to a nice private school but it won't matter because this dumb ass stunt will follow them for a long time. The brought the heat down on themselves.

You cant take action on these girls outside of school without violating their constitutional rights.

Oh yeah, Go bad mouth your employer out some where, or on face book and see what happens. Of course you are allowed free speech. That doesn't mean there are no consequences.

originally posted by: introvert
I agree that some people seem to be over-reacting a bit to this, but what an absolutely stupid thing for these girls to do.

What made them think this was funny or acceptable?

Speedom of Freach. Someone said it was a hoax though. Nothing beats a 200 megaton outburst of whining over something that turns out to be a fake. If it's not a fake, then it's just a dumb move in today's society, but shouldn't be worthy of suspension or anything else. However, in that neck of the U/S, kids get sent home for wearing American Flag shirts to school because the district is afraid an immigrant may get offended. So really, unless they all move to God's country here in the South, I wouldn't be surprised if they were rejected from college and jobs for the rest of their Pacific lives.

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: PraetorianAZ

originally posted by: olaru12
I don't think those girls should be suspended or lose their scholarships. But a year of community service at an inner city old folks home might be appropriate.

Some of those girls are going to get their ass beat at school anyway. Most of them will probably transfer to a nice private school but it won't matter because this dumb ass stunt will follow them for a long time. The brought the heat down on themselves.

You cant take action on these girls outside of school without violating their constitutional rights.

Oh yeah, Go bad mouth your employer out some where, or on face book and see what happens. Of course you are allowed free speech. That doesn't mean there are no consequences.

For every action there is a reaction. For every decision a consequence. If I bad mouthed my employer on social media I would get in trouble with by employer because that is against my company policy. Just like these girls got in trouble for violating school policy. What you were saying is that these girls should serve community service for their actions, which could only be enforced if legal action was taken against them. In order for legal action to be taken we would need to get rid of the first amendment. Is this what you want? If not then sit down and let these girls serve their suspension without morons thinking they should be drawn and quartered.

originally posted by: JIMC5499
A direct quote from the article "the girls were off on their own when they took the picture". I want to know more about that. If it means that the girls were off of school property, on their own time, what does the school have to do with it? Why is the school even involved?
While it may not be too smart, there was no crime committed. As a matter of fact I think that it is probably covered by the First Amendment.

What I want to know is when did schools get the authority to punish students for things that happened outside of school? Nobody is asking about this.

By the way, there is are cable television networks that show old shows from the 70's. shows like "Sanford and Son" and "The Jeffersons", the "n-word" is pretty common on those shows.

From the look of the picture, they are in a Gym. My guess is they went off on their own into the Gym to take the picture, so are still on school grounds. Either way I do agree with you about free speech, and this kind of punishment towards them is pretty outrageous. As others have said this will follow them for the rest of their lives, something that could have easily be handled in school on their terms, and was by a suspension, is now a nationwide f***fest.

originally posted by: olaru12

Oh yeah, Go bad mouth your employer out some where, or on face book and see what happens. Of course you are allowed free speech. That doesn't mean there are no consequences.

I agree, but is it the school's place to furnish the consequences?

originally posted by: Bennyzilla
I couldn't care less about this. It's only a story because someone was dumb enough to take a picture. Without the picture this is something that would have not been addressed at all or handled within the school and wouldn't have gotten any further than that. The fact that it's all young white girls makes it extra offensive I'm sure.

They deserve to be suspended, not expelled.

Principle resigning seems outrageous, but will probably happen because 2016.

For what?