Encouraging people to turn to God!

originally posted by: thepowerisinyou
a reply to: Ghost147

God is a personal experience for everyone, you can't know Him for me or otherwise.

as your username suggests, the power is in us. we are each the most powerful element in our respective lives, and no one has more control over our journey than we do. the "onus" is "on us" to exercise our capacity for order to combat the chaos of existence.

a reply to: Ghost147

There was no test, I was merely talking your language I've had all my questions answered in the Bible, I love this God, there's nothing wrong about Him, I consider myself lucky to been raised in this religion, there's enough satisfaction in its preachings, I don't believe the Bible is bullsh, He is the most beautiful God I've heard about (not that that's evidence). For me this God is real, just as the world of the Bible. Nobody can discredit the Bible, there is a truth behind it, otherwise there would'nt be churches anymore. You want to descredit it but for me you've got no base to it. Instead, I do feel protected and blessed by following God. By the way, just to mention it, not that it would have a meaning to you, I once had a terrifying dream of being chased by demons along with other people and it was very close to me, I reached to grab something behind me to hit the devil and it was a Bible, next I was chasing him with the Bible, laughing )) You want facts, but you should give more credit to the words in the Bible.

a reply to: TzarChasm

Well, the power is in us to raise to God's expectations.

originally posted by: thepowerisinyou
a reply to: Ghost147
There was no test, I was merely talking your language

That seems very disingenuous of you.

originally posted by: thepowerisinyou
a reply to: Ghost147
I've had all my questions answered in the Bible, I love this God, there's nothing wrong about Him

So the validity of your god is proven through the bible?

originally posted by: thepowerisinyou
a reply to: Ghost147
I consider myself lucky to been raised in this religion

As does everyone who is raised in any religion and sincerely believes it.

originally posted by: thepowerisinyou
a reply to: Ghost147
I don't believe the Bible is bullsh

Yes, we've already determined you're more than willing to ignore information about it if it does not already validate it's claims.

originally posted by: thepowerisinyou
a reply to: Ghost147
For me this God is real

Subjective reality is not reality in general.

originally posted by: thepowerisinyou
a reply to: Ghost147
Nobody can discredit the Bible

Actually, we all can, and I have. It's simply a matter that you've chosen to shut your eyes, turn off thinking, and skip over the information in order to protect your false beliefs.

If I had not successfully discredited the bible in my earlier posts, then why have you not responded to the information I've given to show how that information was false?

There's a difference between proving someone's information wrong, and blindly denying that information to protect your delusion.

originally posted by: thepowerisinyou
a reply to: Ghost147
there is a truth behind it

If there is truth, then you should be able to provide evidence to prove that the information within it is factual, or at the very least how my information about it's false claims are invalid.

originally posted by: thepowerisinyou
a reply to: Ghost147
otherwise there would'nt be churches anymore.

You would think so, but brainwashing is a powerful tool. The very actions you have taken within this topic to completely avoid information that discredits your beliefs is evidence for that.

originally posted by: thepowerisinyou
a reply to: Ghost147
You want to descredit it

Have*

Have discredited it.

originally posted by: thepowerisinyou
a reply to: Ghost147
but for me you've got no base to it.

If that's true, then you should be able to show how my information is correct.

If you are just saying "well it doesn't matter what you say because I still believe regardless of the facts" then all you're doing is expressing your own willful ignorance.

How do you not see this?

originally posted by: thepowerisinyou
a reply to: Ghost147
Instead, I do feel protected and blessed by following God.

Yes, I have no doubt that your belief makes you feel protected. That doesn't mean you actually are protected.

As I've stated in an earlier post, we have the ability to activate specific parts of the brain to produce the exact same feeling you have with your god.

It is a naturally occurring phenomenon, and just because you feel it does not make it real outside of your own mind.

originally posted by: thepowerisinyou
a reply to: Ghost147You want facts, but you should give more credit to the words in the Bible.

I would give more credit to the bible if it had a better track record of being accurate.

You state that it is infallible and truthful, I have shown otherwise in previous posts. Why not simply show me how my information is wrong, instead of bypassing the response and ignoring it as you have been?

a reply to: Ghost147
You're determined to believe the Bible is false and I don't. So lets keep it that way.

originally posted by: thepowerisinyou
a reply to: TzarChasm

Well, the power is in us to raise to God's expectations.

the expectations of any theological figure are entirely beside the point. if your expectations of yourself do not give you incentive, then why should anything else?

originally posted by: thepowerisinyou
a reply to: Ghost147
You're determined to believe the Bible is false and I don't. So lets keep it that way.

It's not a matter of belief or opinion which my position is founded on, but actual observable information.

Your position, which has yet to provide any information to support its claims, and your readiness to dismiss (or even acknowledge) information that counters your beliefs makes your position a belief.

a reply to: TzarChasm

It's not all about me, or you, or them, put God first why should it be about you? Did you create yourself?

a reply to: Ghost147

You make it plainly clear and reasonable that there's no obvious God, but if you don't see something doesn't mean it isn't out there. You might believe being all practical is having a wide vision, but I find enough evidence not only by so many testimonies or the STILL STANDING POWERFUL BIBLE but by my own happy, gratifying union with the Source, I'm always better in everything if I pray, I always have some sort of answer. I once, when I was little, asked God to give me a watch that day or as soon as posible and dad came that day with a watch haha! Even if he didn't, even if I would have waited years, I would've known God would give me something better. That's belief! I can count on God anytime, even if I would be poor and miserable, even if my child would die, I know there's something better out there waiting for us,we all die, we all suffer, but that's not all that we can have. I say we broaden our visions....Why we need a God? Why not? If He is so special to create all that is? Why should there be a God if we could simply call it an Universe that asks nothing of us? Well aren't we some proud beings that achieved nothing?

a reply to: Ghost147

And God doesn't need us for giving Him praise, He wants us to be just like Him and once we clean our souls of all temptations and learn from the experiences He puts for each of us, we'll become ONE, part of the whole universe, part of God, we reunite with the Creator who loves us and there's no more God, we are One with Him, we don't become all gods, He is not a God temporarily, but we become His love. Why worshipping Him then? Because you can't forget where you've came from, like you respect your parents....

It's not my mission in the world to guide people to God, I'm not a priest, but if someone can benefit from my thoughts then I happily share what makes me complete and sane in this world

Food for your mind and spirit:
KEEP YOUR SOUL PURE, MEAN NO HARM, BE DELICATE TO THOSE AROUND YOU, DEFENSE YOURSELF IF NECESSARY, PROVE AND PROMOTE YOUR VALUES, THAT'S HOW WE CAN BECOME A BETTER WORLD. KEEP YOUR SOUL PURE, BELIEVE YOU WILL BE REWARDED, YOUR FIRST REWARD IS YOUR SELF-ESTEEM.
Food for your body : as often as possible, don't neglect your fresh vegetables and fruit juices please!

originally posted by: thepowerisinyou
a reply to: TzarChasm

It's not all about me, or you, or them, put God first

why should it be about you? Did you create yourself?

why should it be about me? what is this "it"? the world? the world is about its inhabitants, its atmosphere and culture. the universe? the universe is about nothing, or everything, take your pick. a simulation running its course, a brief flicker of combustion from a flatulent unicorn, it doesnt matter to my life. which, yes, is about me. and the value of my life, what it means to me, is all the incentive i need to be a good person. i have one shot, we all have one shot, and it would be a shame to play anything less than a beautiful game, even if only once. i need no better reason. do you need more than that? surely you are above the stick and carrot bit.

a reply to: TzarChasm

Well it's about you to go where you've came from

originally posted by: thepowerisinyou
a reply to: Ghost147

You make it plainly clear and reasonable that there's no obvious God, but if you don't see something doesn't mean it isn't out there.

I agree. I make no definitive claims that there are no gods. However, we can disprove a particular concept of god (such as those found in religions) because of the attributes that are given to those gods, be it actions, characteristics, events that are said to have unfolded, and so forth.

A general concept of god cannot be disproved because it's an unfalsifiable claim. They also cannot be proven.

However, when a person, or a religion starts making claims of what this god has done, and how it acts, then those claims make that god falsifiable, because those claims are tangible, and we can prove them as false.

originally posted by: thepowerisinyou
You might believe being all practical is having a wide vision, but I find enough evidence not only by so many testimonies

Testimonies are hearsay, they are not hard evidence. I can make up any testimony I want, and unless I have hard evidence to back it up, then the testimony isn't evidence at all.

originally posted by: thepowerisinyou
or the STILL STANDING POWERFUL BIBLE

There are much older religions with much older ancient texts, does their age mean they are more correct than the bible?

originally posted by: thepowerisinyou
but by my own happy, gratifying union with the Source, I'm always better in everything if I pray, I always have some sort of answer.

If you're receiving answers, then that could be used as evidence to prove god.

originally posted by: thepowerisinyou
when I was little, asked God to give me a watch that day or as soon as posible and dad came that day with a watch haha!

This doesn't prove god, you can ask the same questions to a cup of water, and if the answer is 'yes', 'no', or 'maybe', then that cup of water will always 'answer' your questions.

Sorry, but this is not hard evidence at all.

Who's to say that it wasn't Zeus who gave you that watch? or worse yet, Satan? What if it's a satanic watch that you've been given and now Satan rides along on your wrist or in your pocket? If I were Satan and I heard a believer wish for a watch, there you go have it, you'll blindly believe it was god all along and not use the critical thinking skills you could have to decipher that it was really I, the great Satan.

originally posted by: thepowerisinyou
Even if he didn't, even if I would have waited years, I would've known God would give me something better.

Yes, and if you ask and pray the same way to that cup of water, the same results will come up.

originally posted by: thepowerisinyou
That's belief!

That certainly is belief. But is it proof? Absolutely not.

originally posted by: thepowerisinyou
I can count on God anytime

As I too can count on that cup of water.

originally posted by: thepowerisinyou
even if I would be poor and miserable, even if my child would die, I know there's something better out there waiting for us,we all die, we all suffer, but that's not all that we can have.

For someone to require that much reassurance, you must me an incredibly fragile and insecure person. Why is it so bad to accept that when we die, we really have no idea what happens? We could simply die, and that's it. Why is that so bad?

originally posted by: thepowerisinyou
I say we broaden our visions....Why we need a God? Why not?

Because creating make-believe friends that 'protect' you and 'answer' your questions/prayers is a false reality. Why not let the drug addict continue abusing hallucinogens? It makes them happy after all! why not?

If god really does exist, and if god really created humanity, don't you think god would want us to use the brain we were created with, the sole thing that really makes a human a human? Don't you think that god wouldn't want us to just blindly accept every single thing that came on our doorstep and say "see it was because of god!", when that conclusion is based on absolutely no critical thinking skills at all, and leaves you absolutely and totally susceptible to abuse and manipulation?

If god and Satan are real, then you would be the easiest person to deceive because you think about nothing other than 'my beliefs must be right', whilst totally forgetting that your beliefs contain one of the most devious, malicious, manipulative forces ever, Satan.

originally posted by: thepowerisinyou
If He is so special to create all that is?

This is a huge logical fallacy. "If god isn't special, then how could he have created all this". Circular reasoning much?

originally posted by: thepowerisinyou
Why should there be a God if we could simply call it an Universe that asks nothing of us?

Why do we need something to ask anything of us.

Also, this isn't an insult or anything, just a bit of helpful information, but "an" is acceptably used when the sound of a vowel is in the following word. 'Universe' and 'User' and word like that start with a 'y' sound, not a 'vowel' sound, so there is no need to place "an" before it

originally posted by: thepowerisinyou
Well aren't we some proud beings that achieved nothing?

And so what if we have achieved 'nothing' in the grand scale and scope of time and space? Why is that bad? Why do you need to feel important? Insecurity? Fragility? Arrogance?

originally posted by: thepowerisinyou
a reply to: Ghost147
And God doesn't need us for giving Him praise, He wants us to be just like Him and once we clean our souls of all temptations and learn from the experiences He puts for each of us, we'll become ONE, part of the whole universe, part of God, we reunite with the Creator who loves us and there's no more God, we are One with Him, we don't become all gods, He is not a God temporarily, but we become His love. Why worshipping Him then? Because you can't forget where you've came from, like you respect your parents....

And you're getting this information from where? The Bible? If so, then that would again be a logical fallacy, you're proving that the bible is correct using the bible to prove that the bible is correct. Circular reasoning.

originally posted by: thepowerisinyou
It's not my mission in the world to guide people to God, I'm not a priest, but if someone can benefit from my thoughts then I happily share what makes me complete and sane in this world

I'm not claiming that all Christians have this mission you speak of. The reason I'm responding to this thread isn't because you're preaching and I'm offended or anything like that. The sole purpose for my comments is to correct specific flaws within your logic and thinking. You're making claims about proof and evidence and so on, while using examples that do not abide by the definition of those words.

originally posted by: thepowerisinyou
a reply to: TzarChasm

Well it's about you to go where you've came from

Logical fallacy, false premise using circular reasoning.

a reply to: Ghost147

Maeby logic and thinking are in contradiction to the supernatural hm. big hug

a reply to: Ghost147

If we didn't achieve nothing, who are we to know the mysteries of the Universe?

a reply to: Ghost147

If God really exist, we would use our brain to full capacity hahaha

a reply to: Ghost147

Older religions... Well you can pick which you like more. I like mine very much.