Trump campaign says proposed UK ban over Muslim remarks 'a dangerous precedent'

originally posted by: nonspecific

originally posted by: flammadraco
a reply to: andy06shake

Comparing Trump to Hitler

Comparing someone to Hitler is the first and final resort of every left-wing argument.

Is he not merely expressing freedom of speech with that comment?

Is this not the underlying issue within this thread?

To be fair I don't think the question was if he had freedom to compare Trump to Hitler but rather his point was that it was a bad argument.

originally posted by: Punisher75

originally posted by: nonspecific

originally posted by: flammadraco
a reply to: andy06shake

Comparing Trump to Hitler

Comparing someone to Hitler is the first and final resort of every left-wing argument.

Is he not merely expressing freedom of speech with that comment?

Is this not the underlying issue within this thread?

To be fair I don't think the question was if he had freedom to compare Trump to Hitler but rather his point was that it was a bad argument.

Every time this kind of thread comes up it quickly degenerates into the same old left wing right wing name calling nonsense.

Every time this kind of thread comes up it quickly degenerates into the same old left wing right wing name calling nonsense.

I agree totally

originally posted by: redoubt
a reply to: crazyewok

I really want trump banned now as I am really enjoying seeing the butt hurt yanks getting all indignant

Wonder what would happen if the US banned British royalty.
Would there be upset and anger? Of course not!

Brits are so very, very understanding

Depends on the reason why you would ban them really, as plenty of Americans appear to come to the UK to see the Royals and their residences then I'm not sure it would gain mass support in America so it seems a little bit of a strawman argument doesn't it?

originally posted by: crazyewok
I really want trump banned now as I am really enjoying seeing the butt hurt yanks getting all indignant

Hate to bust your bubble, but not really seeing anyone even on this thread who really seems to give a rat's derriere.
It's more of a curiosity to me; I wonder if the Brits will really do it, but I actually doubt that they will. : )

Thing is it isn't going to happen cam my has already basically said so.
Imagine if he got in and we had banned him.
He would invade lol.

a reply to: boymonkey74

Also our mps have to talk about it seeing so many signed the petition they get paid supposedly to talk about the things in the public domain.

a reply to: DeathSlayer

“Westminster would create a dangerous precedent and send a terrible message to the world that the United Kingdom opposes free speech,” George Sorial, executive vice president and counsel for the Trump Organization, told Fox News in a statement.

I agree and our government does oppose free speech when it's something they don't want to hear , this country is becoming so politically correct you can't fart in public without fear of arrest.

So how about this......UK citizens concern yourself with your own politics and issues (and you have just as many troubling issues as any other country) and we will keep our nose out of yours.

If you can get your government to sign off on that then it's a deal.
One example

a reply to: gortex

this country is becoming so politically correct you can't fart in public without fear of arrest.

Never a truer word said!!

If you can get your government to sign off on that then it's a deal.
One example

a reply to: brace22
But the UK isn't opening their borders to asylums seekers; are they?

The last thing I read was, I believe, a statement from Parliament about taking in about 20,000 Syrian, well vetted, refugees, and donating to help asylum seekers, but outside of the UK.

Did something change? Are they now just letting anyone in that wishes to call the UK home? Except for those that say hateful things of course?

We shouldn't make a fuss of this petition, but the whole point of them was to give the voter they had more participation in the democratic process, so it will be discussed no matter how shallow the subject. Let it come, we We have the Saudi family ang kings of gulf states coming here all all the time. Let's stop being petty about a silly petition. I'm no fan of trump, but we've had much worse visitors entertained here. The queen likes to invite middle eastern kings/ despots for tea. news.bbc.co.uk...

It's good to have people you disagree with come and spout what they have to say. That's the point of free speech.the chance to challenge people and highlight their wrong doings

originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: Ksihkehe


Actual ask the scots.

He is a real problem. Not joking. He has been on a sort of land grab for his golf courses and made a lot of Scottish lives a misery.

I'm sure. It's probably the most important thing they can be doing. There's certainly nothing more important they could be doing. I'm sure everything else in the country is doing fine.

That's awesome and I'll tell you why.

First off, everyone saying why would they get involved in our politics? They have the right to do so. It's their country if they don't want trump there that's there choice. Even more so is that trump is running his mouth on who to not let in our country but the moment a country doesn't want him in theirs then his people have something to say about it. Ironic isn't it?

Anyone with common sense would not support trump. So if you do, sorry to break it to you, you don't have any

originally posted by: Ksihkehe

originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: Ksihkehe


Actual ask the scots.

He is a real problem. Not joking. He has been on a sort of land grab for his golf courses and made a lot of Scottish lives a misery.

I'm sure. It's probably the most important thing they can be doing. There's certainly nothing more important they could be doing. I'm sure everything else in the country is doing fine.

Why do you keep insinuating that the Trump thing is the only issue in this country and everything else is therefore somehow less meaningful? Reality doesn't work like that and it's not really a good analogy.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: DeathSlayer

“Westminster would create a dangerous precedent and send a terrible message to the world that the United Kingdom opposes free speech,” George Sorial, executive vice president and counsel for the Trump Organization, told Fox News in a statement.

I agree and our government does oppose free speech when it's something they don't want to hear , this country is becoming so politically correct you can't fart in public without fear of arrest.

So how about this......UK citizens concern yourself with your own politics and issues (and you have just as many troubling issues as any other country) and we will keep our nose out of yours.

If you can get your government to sign off on that then it's a deal.
One example

Why do you agree to a statement that is false? I'm sure you are aware agitators from other countries have been denied access to the UK - as several have said in this thread, visiting this country - like any other country - is a privilege not a right. So.... it's not a precedent. Why is it opposing free speech when if you take the petition that is central to this thread free speech is actually being the point, the free speech being peoples right to protest as to who should be granted said privilege.

If you think this country is so politically correct because the humour of 70's era Bernard Manning, Jim Davidson et al is no longer in vogue then you might want to wonder exactly why that is.

originally posted by: Ksihkehe

originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: Ksihkehe


Actual ask the scots.

He is a real problem. Not joking. He has been on a sort of land grab for his golf courses and made a lot of Scottish lives a misery.

I'm sure. It's probably the most important thing they can be doing. There's certainly nothing more important they could be doing. I'm sure everything else in the country is doing fine.

Unlike Americans we have the intelligence and attention span to concentrate on more than one issue

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: Ksihkehe

originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: Ksihkehe


Actual ask the scots.

He is a real problem. Not joking. He has been on a sort of land grab for his golf courses and made a lot of Scottish lives a misery.

I'm sure. It's probably the most important thing they can be doing. There's certainly nothing more important they could be doing. I'm sure everything else in the country is doing fine.

Unlike Americans we have the intelligence and attention span to concentrate on more than one issue

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: DeathSlayer

What do you think?

What do I think ?Our borders OUR rules.

Were are not taking your freedumb away to vote for any of the Buffoon on offer in your next election. So no we are not interfering. Just excising our own border control rights.

I would think you Trumpeters would be supportive seeing as there main platform is border control.

Ironic....Trumps wants a unrealistic ban of a entire religion from US entry and that’s ok.....we discuss banning one person you lose your #

I don't give a # who you all ban, hopefully you feel the same about us. A few things to consider though, first if you all ban trump he will use it as a platform to get elected, revolutionary feelings still exist,and the motif and legend are very deep in the American mind, so he will garner more support. You would think this wouldn't matter, however the amount of shame it would bring the U.K to have a U.S sitting president banned would seriously injure relations,especially when you all reversed the ban upon. My advice wait to see if he gets elected or not,then ban trump the idiot, not trump the president.( who would still be an idiot)

But either way rock and roll should be fun however this turns out but honestly I don't see this doing anything but making the U.K lose face and typically you all are much more tactful than this interesting times

a reply to: TechniXcality

He won't be banned from the UK, the only reason the UK Parliament is discussing the Petition is due to having over 100,000 signatures. On the same day they discuss Trumps Ban Petition, they are also discussing the Petition that had the same amount of signatures (but our lefty BBC and Media won't report on it) echoing the same words that Trump used and calling for the UK to close all borders until ISIS is defeated!!

originally posted by: DeathSlayer
I agree with Mr. Trump and do not see why the UK should become involved with American politics.

They're not getting involved in OUR politics, they're protecting THEIR country. If the US banned al-Assad from entry, it wouldn't be about Syrian politics, it would be to protect our county from his influence and possible danger to our country.

The UK is a free country and if they want to show how they feel about someone, they are completely free to do so. If the US wanted to ban someone that you dislike, something tells me you would support it 100%...