Fascism is Not Right Wing, it is socialist.

This thread has turned-out to be that train wreck that you knew was going to end badly, but for some reason you just can't help but watch it unfold.

a reply to: introvert

I know. I keep clicking on the thread to read the new responses. It's been very entertaining.


ETA: I predict my words here will be twisted by a certain conservative or two to make it look like I'm agreeing with them.

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: neo96

I'd argue that any one of those pales in comparison to the Patriot Act, signed into law by Bush, and supported fervently by conservatives during its hasty drafting.

Then you should have been equally up set at those LEFT WING fascists Carter, and CLinton.

That gave us the FISA ACT in the 70s.

The Omnibus counter Terrorism Bill in the 90s.

And Roosevelts NAtional Firearms Act.

Johnsons Gun control ACT

CLintons ASWB.

But I forgot.

Only the right is 'fascist'.

ALL did the SAME things.

a reply to: introvert

Yeah those on the right are driving the engine and we on the left are riding the caboose desperately trying to get off.

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: introvert

Yeah those on the right are driving the engine ane we on the left are riding the caboose desperately trying to get off.

I could tell many pages back the debate had pretty much ended and the arguments were about to come full circle. That's when I jumped off.

originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
The word "fascism" itself is derived from the word for "bundle of sticks" which is a popular analogy with socialists.

(Facepalm)
'Fascist' comes from the Latin word 'fasces', which was the bundle of sticks with an axe embedded at the middle and which was a symbol of authority of the Roman Republic. Fasces have nothing whatsoever to do with Socialism.

a reply to: xuenchen



Yes, there has been.....there have been loads of 'something' in the thread.....please stand by.........while I find some (having good reading comprehension and retention skills, I'll go fetch some for you).....


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Here ya go, xuen ^^^

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: MystikMushroom

In a dream world.

All the definitions are Left Wing creations out of thin air.

Nobody seems to be posting any reliable and verifiable Left Wing sources.

Lots of illusions though.

Wait, so through this entire discussion you've been bashing sources as "left wing" and now claim that no one has presented any "reliable and verifiable" left wing sources?

You are contradicting yourself when its convenient. Any source I've seen you use generally is from Brietbart, which is a known hardcore conservative "news" website.

Despite the fact I could have at many times in this thread, I haven't lowered myself to attack the sources of information presented. If you want to attack the sources, then you ought to look at your own sources to see just how un-baised they are as well.

Every time I throw something at the wall, it's deemed "biased".

This leaves me with only conclusion: only known, right-wing-biased websites contain "credible, verifiable" information according to you.

Well, that in and of itself is patently false, as any source that is known to be biased in one direction or the other skews and slants the truth for their own benefit.

a reply to: xuenchen it seems it's only you and a few others are trying to convince yourself of this. I don't even know why. So it's either to do with chriticism levelled at your spiritual leader trump, or your all still angry about the last NLBS, probably a combination of both. How you all going to be if you don't get a republican president. Take conservative personal responsibility or blame someone else? I know you've all enjoyed playing underdog for the past 8 years. With your daily anti Obama swipes, but this should be a republican win on the cards for sure, unless your guys drop the ball again.

a reply to: neo96

Gun control acts vs. Patriot Act...

Hm...

Not letting me buy an extended magazine for my AR-15 .... VS. being rounded up and have my due process stripped for "National Security" reasons? Indefinite detentions? Legal torture?

I'll take a few purchase restrictions over being able to be assassinated by my own government under the guise of "national security".

Patriot Act, pushed by Republicans and signed into law by a Republican.

Patriot Act: the most fascist piece of legislation the US government has EVER enacted. Period.

Erm, folks, don't argue too much with the old fox Xuenchen. He and I have crossed paths before. He likes to stir things up to get a reaction. I'm wise to you now old fox!

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: introvert

Yeah those on the right are driving the engine and we on the left are riding the caboose desperately trying to get off.

No one's driving. And here comes a curve...

a reply to: MystikMushroom



THANK YOU.

Bravo.

a reply to: AngryCymraeg

I've had suspicions about him few times. Maybe he doesn't actually believe what he is saying.

That sly ol fox.

a reply to: xuenchen

China?

a reply to: MystikMushroom

NO Gun Control PLUS the FISA ACT, and the Omnibus Counterterrorism ACT.

The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 ("FISA" Pub.L. 95–511, 92 Stat. 1783, 50 U.S.C. ch. 36) is a United States federal law which prescribes procedures for the physical and electronic surveillance and collection of "foreign intelligence information" between "foreign powers" and "agents of foreign powers" (which may include American citizens and permanent residents suspected of espionage or terrorism).[1] It has been repeatedly amended since the September 11 attack

en.wikipedia.org...

Omnibus Counterterrorism Act of 1995, US Senate bills S.390 and S.761.[1] Senator Joe Biden introduced the bill on behalf of the Clinton Administration on Feb. 10, 1995.[2][3] The bill was co sponsored by Senators Alfonse D'Amato, Dianne Feinstein, Robert J. Kerrey, Herb Kohl, Jon Kyl, Barbara A. Mikulski and Arlen Specter.[4] Representative Chuck Schumer sponsored the bill (H.R. 896) in the US House of Representatives.[3] Following closely on the heels of Executive Order 12947, prohibiting transactions with terrorists, President Clinton described the bill as a "comprehensive effort to strengthen the ability of the United States to deter terrorist acts and punish those who aid or abet any international terrorist activity in the United States" and requested "the prompt and favorable consideration of this legislative proposal by the Congress".[5]

en.wikipedia.org...

The FUNNY part here is A RIGHT WINGER DIDN'T write the Patriot Act.

Biden himself draws parallels between his 1995 bill and its 2001 cousin. “I drafted a terrorism bill after the Oklahoma City bombing. And the bill John Ashcroft sent up was my bill,” he said when the Patriot Act was being debated, according to the New Republic, which described him as “the Democratic Party’s de facto spokesman on the war against terrorism.”

Interesting EH?

But no one is really interested in truth here.

Right wing fascist is all they want to hear.

a reply to: neo96

Looks like the Left Wing fully supports all Authoritarian measures imposed on the U.S. population.

Just like any good Fascist leadership and sheep-like followers.

originally posted by: xuenchen
But genuine "Right Wing" is not authoritarian.

I think you mean "genuine american right wing", which really means libertarian, which had nothing to do with fascism, which lands us in this mess time after time.

a reply to: xuenchen

No kidding and indefinite detentions came under the current FASCIST in chief.

They DON'T care about TRUTH.

Legal torture?

And no one had a problem with torture under that other LEFT WING FASCIST Johnson during Vietnam.

And they sure didn't have a problem under that other LEFT WING FASCIST CLinton and Gore staring Rendition.

The current policy traces its roots to the administration of former President Bill Clinton.

www.aclu.org...

IS anyone interested in TRUTH ?