Fascism is Not Right Wing, it is socialist.

a reply to: neo96

What about it?

He's adapted to the hysteria.
Nothing, neo, NOTHING you can say will convince me you know what you are talking about or are interested in intelligent dialogue. You are just parroting right-wing bullsnap sites without doing any real research.

I'm wondering if you're still in high school, actually - or just lost in a little paranoid world of your own. Or both.



I would suggest ASKING BERNIE HIMSELF what he thinks....but, I know you can't be bothered. You've painted yourself into a corner.....and the paint is quite stinky and deep.

Perhaps you are planning a 2020 run for POTUS yourself. Wouldn't surprise me.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: peskyhumans

What social programs did the founding fathers create?

The Military, for one. Did they not grant the authority of the Federal government to provide for the common defense?

Having a military doesn't make a country socialist.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

I guess that glass house Sanders supporters built around him can't stand a little hail.

Good lord. People ain't seen nothing yet if he becomes president. Which ISN'T going to happen.

Perhaps you are planning a 2020 run for POTUS yourself. Wouldn't surprise me.

And someone would be wrong. I have entirely too much self respect to be a part of a political office or that cess pool on capitol shill.

Don't know why your trying to argue. Your minds made up.

Other than just taking pot shots because someone dares criticize the 'messiah' Sanders.

The people claiming that fascism is socialist, ought to create their own political spectrum using MS Paint or something for us all. I'd be curious to see how it looks. I'm not talking about some kind of grid, box, circle or whatever -- no, I'm talking about a horizontal line with conservatives on one end and liberals on the other.

For some reason, I get the distinct impression that everything "negative" would be on the side with liberals.

Tyrants, demagogues, dictators, imperialists, totalitarians, autocrats, despots and overlords ... all of these would be piled up on one end, meanwhile the other side of the line with "conservative" would be strikingly empty?

As reality sets in.

a reply to: xuenchen

So it's pretty much what I said...

There's nothing at all negative about anything YOU believe?

Alrighty then! Got it. *nods*

Wait...isn't that what everyone tells themselves though to justify their own belief system?

EDIT: Wait a minute...that second graphic has both Nazi's and Communists on one end...didn't they kind of fight to the death in WWII? Wasn't Communism Hitler's mortal and sworn enemy? Didn't the siege of Stalingrad kind of display that?

Hitler hated Communists with a passion and attacked Russia...then after WWII America also began to hate Communists and had McCarthy's "Red Scare"....

Hm...Is anyone else seeing all the hypocrisy and desperation here to deflect any negativity away from one set of political beliefs?

a reply to: xuenchen

You took that graph from a biased right-wing site. And let's not forget your propaganda thread of which this thread is a rehash
Fascism Is Far Left, Not Far Right on Political Spectrum

a reply to: neo96

*chuckles*

Well, it is going to happen....
we shall see.

(As if your mind isn't already made up (of outdated rhetoric that has nothing to do with reality today).
I know I can "argue" with you until the cows come home and it won't make a dent. Pity.

a reply to: xuenchen

Does it matter to you that everything you post is false?

a reply to: MystikMushroom

EDIT: Wait a minute...that second graphic has both Nazi's and Communists on one end...didn't they kind of fight to the death in WWII? Wasn't Communism Hitler's mortal and sworn enemy? Didn't the siege of Stalingrad kind of display that?

From page 1.

Lenin is the greatest man, second only to Hitler, and that the difference between Communism and the Hitler faith is very slight.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Abraham Lincoln's favourite riddle: if you call a tail a leg, how many legs does a dog have?

Four, because playing with words doesn't alter the truth.

You can redefine fascism anyway you like but you're just playing with words.

And for those WHO FORGET.

The U.S.S.R.

Union of Soviet Socialist Republics

Both the Fascists, and the Communists called themselves SOCIALIST.

Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (

originally posted by: xuenchen
What makes the differences/contrasts in government is the authoritarian policies necessary for a government's "success".

The more authority needed to keep a population in check is the problem.

Genuine Conservatives (not the Left Wing definitions of "Conservatives") don't rely or condone massive oppressive authoritarian policies.

Read Marx and figure it out.

The original political spectrum was mapped in two dimensions which factored in authoritarianism.

Reducing it to a one dimensional, linear model is nonsense.

Simplified analysis leads to simplistic conclusions.

originally posted by: neo96
And for those WHO FORGET.

The U.S.S.R.

Union of Soviet Socialist Republics

Both the Fascists, and the Communists called themselves SOCIALIST.

Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (

Because it had been a socialist party before Hitler and his pals took over.

Is Obama really a democrat?

Does any of the clown car of prospective candidates really stand up for the republic?

Is David Cameron a conservative?

Are Mars Bars from Mars?

a reply to: neo96

Kinda like those who called themselves "gay" a hundred years ago?

It meant something different then. In case you weren't aware.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Honest.

I will try to refrain from rolling on the floor, and laugh hysterically when Sanders doesn't get the nomination.

It's gonna be hard.

a reply to: neo96

meh. Whatever blows your hair back.

originally posted by: xuenchen
What makes the differences/contrasts in government is the authoritarian policies necessary for a government's "success".

The more authority needed to keep a population in check is the problem.

Genuine Conservatives (not the Left Wing definitions of "Conservatives") don't rely or condone massive oppressive authoritarian policies.

Read Marx and figure it out.

What I find ironic about that infographic is that the "most free" in blue is "General Anarchy"...

As I've already pointed out in this thread, true anarchists do not believe in owning personal property.

Doesn't sound very free to me. All of your possessions belong to everyone else under true, general anarchy. Are you going to let me use your car whenever I need to?

Position in the political spectrum

Fascism was influenced by both left and right, conservative and anti-conservative, national and supranational, rational and anti-rational.[38] A number of historians regard fascism either as a revolutionary centrist doctrine, as a doctrine that mixes philosophies of the left and the right, or as both those things.[39][40] Fascism was founded during World War I by Italian national syndicalists who combined left-wing and right-wing political views.

en.wikipedia.org...

Stop already.

You can't pin it as 'right' only.

a reply to: neo96

Hm..now your position seems to be shifting.

Earlier, it was that fascism was a liberal, left-wing thing...Now, however, it's become a "well, everyone's got a little blame on their hands" thing?

Okay, well it looks like we're making progress at least!