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originally posted by: ErrorErrorError
Funny how these right wing fascist blogs like jihadwatch spin every single piece of "news" in to something "huge",fake or not. Why do they link to some dubious arabic site when you can just link to a swedish
newspaper?
www.svt.se...
Oh i know why! Because nowhere does it say that government of Sweden is in "panic" or that doezen of doezen people have received thy flyer. That's why! Nor does it say that Isis is behind all this. It could be neo nazis trying to stir the anti immigration sentiment or just someone trolling the residents. Why is jihadwatch allowed as a source on this site when it has been proven from time to time that they are spreading lies and disinformation? Sorcha Faal anyone ?
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: Kandinsky
I'm worried because a critical mass and we're all back there again. I feel we're getting closer.
I'm much more worried about losing my freedoms then ever being attack by a terrorist. The greatest threat we have to freedom today is the word security.
originally posted by: scubagravy
a reply to: DeepThoughtCriminal
Hopefully the rednecks in our lovely queensland state, will unite and rise against when the time is needed, i fear i'm alone in this aspect.
originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: DeepThoughtCriminal
Saying ISIS represents Muslims is like saying the Westboro Baptist church represents Christians.
I mean seriously, I have to point that out to you?
originally posted by: Shuye
originally posted by: Miccey
a reply to: neo96
Answer, that isnt far away.....
Btw, ot, havnt seen anything about
these "letters" in swedish msm...
I heard it's pretty common not to report anything that could be labeled as "racist" in the Swedish MSM, am I wrong?
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: sirlancelot
Abrogation can occur.
Same as the Torah and Bible.
& now if God decides to pick a conduit to relay an abrogated message.
But the verse I quoted wasn't abrogated.
If that's what you really want to know.
Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.
originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: DBCowboy
I agree. Isis pretends to be Mulsims for recruitment, manipulation, and to destroy the image of Islam, especially in the eyes of westerners. They count on the west to embrace bigotry of Muslims to further their propaganda and recruitment campaign. That's why it's so important people like the OP not fall into this obvious trap.
originally posted by: laminatedsoul
originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: DeepThoughtCriminal
Saying ISIS represents Muslims is like saying the Westboro Baptist church represents Christians.
I mean seriously, I have to point that out to you?
How does a small group numbering in hundreds who simply annoy the crap out of people, the same as people who are found in every nation islam has entered, and who enact violent murders?
How?
if you can point that out, that'd be great. thanks.
originally posted by: laminatedsoul
originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: Miccey
Perfect! We got a Swedish poster here who can verify no news of this. Thank you!
most of Americans did not witness the recent attack on US soil.
we can therefore assume it didn't happen.
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: Christosterone
Just so you are aware, the Quran contradicts all of those Hadith...
4:137
Indeed, those who have believed then disbelieved, then believed, then disbelieved, and then increased in disbelief - never will Allah forgive them, nor will He guide them to a way.
No punishment, but lack of guidance from Allah.
Feel free to ignore this message though.
Others have.
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: DeepThoughtCriminal
This is going to make Islam REAL popular there!
God's Apostle said, "Five are regarded as martyrs:
1 - They are those who die because of plague, abdominal disease, drowning or a falling building etc., and the martyrs in God's Cause." -Bukhari #2829 (Volume 4, Book 52, #82)
2 - Whoever dies protecting his religion, he is a martyr;
3 - Whoever dies protecting his wealth, he is a martyr;
4 - Whoever dies protecting his family, he is a martyr;
5 - Whoever dies protecting his blood (i.e. his life), he is a martyr. - (At-Tirmidhi #1421, Abu Dawud 4772, An-Nasa'i #4100 and Ibn Majah #2580)
Misquoted Verse #4
Qur'an 47:4 So, when you clash with the unbelieving Infidels in battle, smite their necks until you overpower them, killing and wounding many of them.
At length, when you have thoroughly subdued them, bind them firmly, making (them) captives. Thereafter either generosity or ransom until the war lays down its burdens.
Thus are you commanded by God to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam .
Once again a poor translation serves the purpose of the Islam-haters very well.
Let us examine a more accurate translation before analyzing the verse:
47:4 Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers in battle, smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens.
Thus (are ye commanded): but if it had been God's Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others.
But those who are slain in the Way of God,- He will never let their deeds be lost. So we now see some grievous mistakes made in the poor translation quoted.
1. The verse makes NO mention whatsoever of "killing and wounding"
2. "Thus are you commanded by God to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam " is a complete addition to the verse and is not found anywhere in the Qur'an!
3. That verse does not use the word Jihad at all It is very clear that the context of this verse is in battle, and when in battle the defenders of humanity should attack the unjust oppressors until they are subdued