Islamic State threatens to decapitate Swedish people unless they convert to Islam

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

ooh, now we're calling me an idiot. IC. As soon as a debate goes south in favor of the opponent, when all else fails, ad hom.

Again, those verses are not for Apostasy

Yes, yes they are. Right here specifically 9:11

"But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then are they your brethren in religion. We detail Our revelations for a people who have knowledge. And if they break their pledges after their treaty (hath been made with you) and assail your religion, then fight the heads of disbelief - Lo! they have no binding oaths - in order that they may desist.

Apostasy. Brah. There's more. Lots more. Shall I copy and paste it for you?

Finally, just no.
The Hadith are useless and only certain schools of thought follow certain Hadith.

They're never comparable to the Quran, I don't even know what you're talking about with that bollocks.

Then you're not a true Muslim. Actually, if I may, I think you're a wannabe Muslim because CLEARLY the three sacred text of Islam are the Qu'ran, Sira (life of Muhammad) and the Hadith (traditions of Muhammad) it's Islam 101 brother. Only a poser who isn't a true Muslim would say otherwise

Just playing devils advocate here

but.... how can we be sure that ISIS or in fact any Muslim person is responsible for these letters? Could it just as easily be a group of people trying to stoke up more anti Muslim rhetoric?

As an example, look at the teacher in France who cut themselves and tried blaming ISIS supporter....,

a reply to: Swills

Saying ISIS represents Muslims is like saying the Westboro Baptist church represents Christians.

Westboro Baptist church believes homosexuality is a sin. Wouldn't you say that a good representation of Christians?
or
Are you talking about their peaceful/nonviolence protest of funerals? Protesting a church has nothing to do with them protesting funerals, that for the news media and money.

Now that I just had to bring reality into this situation and quasi defended the Westboro Baptist church, I need a shower.

a reply to: FlySolo

This isn't a debate.
This is you trying to tell me what Islam is, with only a cursory knowledge of the subject...

This is something I spent 5 years studying before converting.
And I say that, to say this...

Anyone who thinks Hadith are equal or comparable or level with the Holy Quran is an idiot.


Have a good day.
Salam.

originally posted by: FlySolo
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

ooh, now we're calling me an idiot. IC. As soon as a debate goes south in favor of the opponent, when all else fails, ad hom.

Again, those verses are not for Apostasy

Yes, yes they are. Right here specifically 9:11

"But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then are they your brethren in religion. We detail Our revelations for a people who have knowledge. And if they break their pledges after their treaty (hath been made with you) and assail your religion, then fight the heads of disbelief - Lo! they have no binding oaths - in order that they may desist.

Apostasy. Brah. There's more. Lots more. Shall I copy and paste it for you?

Finally, just no.
The Hadith are useless and only certain schools of thought follow certain Hadith.

They're never comparable to the Quran, I don't even know what you're talking about with that bollocks.

Then you're not a true Muslim. Actually, if I may, I think you're a wannabe Muslim because CLEARLY the three sacred text of Islam are the Qu'ran, Sira (life of Muhammad) and the Hadith (traditions of Muhammad) it's Islam 101 brother. Only a poser who isn't a true Muslim would say otherwise

You don’t look at out of context versus form this you look at history as well.


Muslims have protected Jews in Moorish Spain and Turkey when European Christians were cutting their throats and forcing them to convert. It’s called the inquisition.

Europe had a freemasonic led revolution and overthrew religious rule.

That’s been good and bad and still going on but will likely go too far the other way


I was raised partly in true Islamic community and can tell you this stuff doesn’t go on there only in what is known as Wahhabi Islam does this extreme stuff happen’’

You just don’t know what your talking about.


Have you heard of the 5 major Islamic schools of thought?


Do you know what they are and what they believe?


Have you ever heard of the Admadiya Muslims?

The Sufis, in which Jalaludin Rumi, perhaps the greatest poet of all times, was one and also a Muslim Cleric

You should study more before you judge

People read a few versus from the Talmud and judge all Jews

You read a subjective idea about Hadiths and you think you know something

You know very little!

a reply to: Swills

Let's unpack that pew poll shall we?

Tunisia
Population - 11 Million
ISIS supporters - 1.4 million

Nigeria
Population - 173 Million
ISIS supporters - 24.2 Million

Senegal
Population - 14 Million
ISIS Supporters - 1.5 million

Libya
Population- 6 Million
ISIS supporters - 420,000

Yemen
Population 24 million
ISIS supporters - 1.6 Million

Egypt
Population - 82 million
ISIS supporters - 1.6 million

Turkey
Population -75 million
ISIS supporters - 6 million

Burkina Faso
Population 16 million
ISIS supporters - 1.3 million

Saudi Arabia
population - 28 million
ISIS supporters - 1.1 million

United Arab Emirates
population - 9.3 million
ISIS supporters - 279,000

Pakistan
Population - 182 million
ISIS supporters - 16.4 million

Total population counted: 620.3 million
Total Supporters counted :55.5 million
Percentage of support: 8.9%

We know there's 1.6 billion Muslims and not all Muslim countries have been counted in that poll. So let's tack on another conservative 8.9% to make it 111 million Muslims.

One hundred and eleven million supporters for ISIS. WOW, and that's just a conservative estimate.
I really wish you guys stop pretending already and just do the math.

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: laminatedsoul

Muslims around the world do not support Isis.

That is laughable.

muslims support all that the quran teaches them, which is to not accept anything other then what the quran preaches. Which is, reject the rest of the world putting it lightly.

With that in mind, muslims may say we do not support them but if the world turned to that religion tomorrow they would love! it. It is like asking a child did it do something wrong, no! oh well its ok if you did, ok, I did it!!

Nonsense from people like yourself that thinks the world is full of party hats.

a reply to: Willtell

Yes I do know very little in relation to an entire 1400 year old theocracy. But isn't that the typical response of a defender of Islam? "you don't know the religion so you can't say #"

That, is a bunch of crap. No debating Islam unless you're a Muslim? I've learned more about Islam in the past few months than I know about Christianity.

I suppose I'm not qualified enough to debate that Muhammad didn't fly off to heaven on a winged horse either right?

a reply to: FlySolo

But but but Christianity and west borough baptists idiots, and Buddhist machete people!! But the west caused this war with its evil empire and the west gets what it deserves!

Meh

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs


How important is the hadith

The hadiths are very important in Islam because they fill in the details on Islamic life. Where the Quran gives Muslims a broad framework for how we should live, the Hadeeths give us specific information. Here are some examples of how the hadiths give us specifics on general commandments from the Quran.

What is the significance of hadith in Islam?

Hadith is integral to the Qur’an, since they are inseparably linked to each other. It is impossible to understand the Qur’an without reference to Hadith. The Qur’an is the message, and the Hadith is the explanation of the message by the Messenger himself. I mention the following points to clarify the issue:

This is a debate and you're losing. You can chose to not debate further but that will only prove you can't. You can call me an idiot all day because I'm confident I'm smarter than you. At least I'm not indoctrinated and still have cognitive abilities to think for myself.

Next!

originally posted by: FlySolo
a reply to: Willtell


Muhammad didn't fly off to heaven on a winged horse either right?

Wait he didn't? You can't be serious, and all this time I thought he had.

a reply to: TechniXcality

lol, that video was just weird. Get a grip dude, lmao, it's just rainbow, not a sign from god.

originally posted by: DeepThoughtCriminal
This is from a couple of days ago, but I didn't see anything posted about it here. I thought I'd mention it because it shows the extent to which Islamic fundamentalists are trying to infiltrate Western society.

Swedish govt in “panic” after ISIS letters give 3 days to convert to Islam or be decapitated

.....dozens of [Swedish] citizens received threatening letters signed by ISIS and offering them three choices, either conversion to Islam, payment of jizya, or decapitation.” The letters warned their recipients that they had three days to decide. Written in the Swedish language, the letters appeared yesterday on dozens of homes in different cities at the same time. Police are reportedly taking the threat “very seriously.”

Among other regions, letters appeared in the cities of Ronneba, Sigtuna, Vstroes and the capital Stockholm. Along with threatening those who refuse to convert to Islam or pay the jizya with death, some letters also threatened their recipients with “the bombing of theirs roofs above their heads.” The letters further warned that the police will not save recipients of the letters and that “death would extend to all.”

Sweden is known for its very liberal policy regarding immigrants and strict multiculturalism. It doesn't seem to be working so well for them. Sweden is a beautiful country with a rich, fascinating history, so why should their culture be obliterated by Muslims? I keep seeing European traditional culture being cast into the shadows in favour of Eastern immigrants. Sadly, Sweden does have a reputation for being a lost cause due to its rigidly enforced multiculturalism.

So far, nothing has come of these threats (that I know of). But these threats should not be made in the first place. What gives these Muslims the right to demand their religion be enforced upon a foreign country? What gives them the right to threaten the people of the country which has taken them in, extended a helping hand, allowed them to live a high quality of life free from war and violence? Is this really how bad multiculturalist laws have become? Why should they be given more protection than the indigenous people of the land?

It goes to show that no country is truly safe from Muslim extremists. They're showing up everywhere.

They want Sweden to look just like the country they just left. They aren't migrants, they're invaders !

I really cant say how much i hate the muslim religion

originally posted by: FlySolo
a reply to: Swills

Let's unpack that pew poll shall we?

Tunisia
Population - 11 Million
ISIS supporters - 1.4 million

Nigeria
Population - 173 Million
ISIS supporters - 24.2 Million

Senegal
Population - 14 Million
ISIS Supporters - 1.5 million

Libya
Population- 6 Million
ISIS supporters - 420,000

Yemen
Population 24 million
ISIS supporters - 1.6 Million

Egypt
Population - 82 million
ISIS supporters - 1.6 million

Turkey
Population -75 million
ISIS supporters - 6 million

Burkina Faso
Population 16 million
ISIS supporters - 1.3 million

Saudi Arabia
population - 28 million
ISIS supporters - 1.1 million

United Arab Emirates
population - 9.3 million
ISIS supporters - 279,000

Pakistan
Population - 182 million
ISIS supporters - 16.4 million

Total population counted: 620.3 million
Total Supporters counted :55.5 million
Percentage of support: 8.9%

We know there's 1.6 billion Muslims and not all Muslim countries have been counted in that poll. So let's tack on another conservative 8.9% to make it 111 million Muslims.

One hundred and eleven million supporters for ISIS. WOW, and that's just a conservative estimate.
I really wish you guys stop pretending already and just do the math.

Did you just pull those numbers out of your ass ? Who made this poll?

a reply to: marg6043

This is why Osoma oboma ,Hilary and the UN are dead set on disarming the American citizen

a reply to: ErrorErrorError

Ah-ha! Don't like the numbers I see. Sorry to disappoint you but no, I didn't pull those numbers out of my ass. I did the math based on the pew poll provided.

Cognitive dissonance is a bitch

eta: I lied, google did the math, I just punched in the numbers

originally posted by: FlySolo
a reply to: ErrorErrorError

Ah-ha! Don't like the numbers I see. Sorry to disappoint you but no, I didn't pull those numbers out of my ass. I did the math based on the pew poll provided.

Cognitive dissonance is a bitch

Well,post it here.

Wtf has ats come to,Right wing nutters posting random numbers and getting stars for it..

a reply to: ErrorErrorError

www.abovetopsecret.com...


Here, I'll even spoon feed ya.



Go ahead, do the math.

a reply to: DeepThoughtCriminal

They gave the standard to call to submit.

It's typical.

Convert or you are fair game for war.