ATS' Choice Poll: SANDERS or TRUMP?

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not that i believe in voting but sanders looks the most promising.

a reply to: IAMTAT
Sanders

a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

Yes I have. And most of his methods have been poorly rated by most economists. Saying you will do something without having it grounded in reality is a big deal. His 12 step plan is awful. His plan spends trillions of dollars which he offsets with increased taxes, especially on corporations and the wealthy, but the offset doesn't even begin to cover the spending while at the same time stifling the economy.

I could say I am going to pay for a yacht with my kids allowance, that doesn't mean I can actually pay for the yacht.

Sanders

a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

FDR, the same president who made the depression WORSE and PROLONGED it??

Source

After scrutinizing Roosevelt's record for four years, Harold L. Cole and Lee E. Ohanian conclude in a new study that New Deal policies signed into law 71 years ago thwarted economic recovery for seven long years.

a reply to: raymundoko

Right.

www.dailykos.com...

Yes I have. And most of his methods have been poorly rated by most economists. Saying you will do something without having it grounded in reality is a big deal. His 12 step plan is awful. His plan spends trillions of dollars which he offsets with increased taxes, especially on corporations and the wealthy, but the offset doesn't even begin to cover the spending while at the same time stifling the economy.

Please don't tell me you're another person who's adding the money his plan spends to what you currently have rather than replacing it, as his plans mostly do.
The healthcare plan, for instance, is less expensive in the long run. Do you get that? It has a net cost less than what you currently have, while being better in almost every conceivable way.

It reminds me of our retarded Australian Government deciding to replace the NBN plan with something MORE EXPENSIVE and WORSE IN EVERY WAY. >_>

I see we've run long, but I was away and then the deluge of votes, comments and Moderator edits took place...pushing this vote past Page 10, faster than anticipated.

Here is the FINAL TALLY as of this post:

SANDERS: 54
TRUMP: 36

PLEASE feel free to continue the discussion, debate, celebrating and commiserating...and if people want to keep the Poll going...please continue to VOTE (only once)...and keep a running TALLY.

BERNIE SANDERS wins in this poll.

Congrats and thanks to ALL who participated in, what for me at least, has been a fun thread.

Thanks again.
-OP
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a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

Just so we are clear, I am to take the word of a blogger for a left wing site over THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA, LOS ANGELES? (Not the only university think tank to come to the same conclusion FYI) Is that what you are suggesting? A blogger with no formal education at that...

I am fairly certain I understand Bernie's math You seem to be getting your information from arguably the most biased site on the internet.

a reply to: raymundoko

I did say "Right", didn't I? Merely providing additional information and perspective.

Regardless, weren't we talking about taxation and spending policies? I'm unaware of a "New "New Deal"" that Bernie is proposing.