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ATS' Choice Poll: SANDERS or TRUMP?

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posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 10:03 AM
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Trump.

This is not a party line vote. To me, this is a vote to save our country. The GOP is almost dead and the current Dem policies have not helped me in the last 7 years and I cannot take 8 more of the same.

Do not waste you vote on not voting or going 3rd party but do vote from one of the two main choices.



posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 10:19 AM
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Bernie is nice but Im no socialist. Trump will put the right people in charge in the offices the President assigns. He will pick the most qualified peple not lickspittles. Which is more than I can say about the other candidates. I dont like everything Trump says but he can help this country.



posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 10:21 AM
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It will be a Bush Clinton election. These things are already decided. They dont care what the people want.



posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 10:22 AM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

Or they are mostly unemployed and have the time right now...

Trump if I have to choose between the two. Ron Paul write in for me. I do like Bernie though, but he's too far left for the USA. I admire his support of the second amendment and wanting education at community colleges to be free, but he is unclear how he intends to pay for that (education) and has lauded increased taxes in the past.



posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 10:25 AM
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a reply to: raymundoko

Tell me, have you looked into his campaign in-depth from sources that are more trustworthy than something like the WSJ? As far as I'm aware, most of his plans actually have listed methods of paying for them as well.



posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 10:37 AM
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originally posted by: ~Lucidity
Sanders is not like most career politicians. The facts speak for themselves.

Whereas Trump is no kind of politician at all. Those facts speak for themselves as well.

Sanders seems like most career democrats in the sense of where he is getting his campaign money from, one look at his top donors and it just screams socialist.

Sen. Bernie Sanders: Campaign Finance/Money - Top Donors

Donald is the only candidate that doesn't have a FOR SALE sign around his neck and actually has the balls to cover hot button issues and point out the absurdity, so I'm forced to vote Trump.
edit on 17-12-2015 by Konduit because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 10:46 AM
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Trump



posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 10:58 AM
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Trump.



posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 11:03 AM
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ATS' Choice Poll: SANDERS or TRUMP?


None of the above.



posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 11:05 AM
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originally posted by: buster2010
Sanders





posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 11:06 AM
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originally posted by: muse7
Donald Trump is an entertainer, a demagogue and a scam artist. He is preying on people's irrational fears and greatly benefitting from it, the only good thing from that is that it helps expose the disgusting state of Conservative politics in the U.S.

Why in the hell would I vote for that demagogue?

Give me Sanders, the man who is actually proposing real solutions and doesn't rely on hate and fear to get people to vote for him.


Because you voted for Obama.

He WAS a demagogue.



posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 11:07 AM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

Sanders



posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 11:07 AM
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a reply to: neo96

Just remember. .... sanders is a jew. I'm just sayin



posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 11:09 AM
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originally posted by: tinyDAWK
a reply to: neo96

Just remember. .... sanders is a jew. I'm just sayin


So was Hitler.



posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 11:16 AM
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a reply to: neo96

Lawl, and you complain about Trump being compared to Hitler.

Bernie's brand of Socialist isn't anything like the Nazi's. There's no legitimate comparison. And if I've missed something somehow and it is... Well, Hitler couldn't have done everything wrong, could he?
edit on 17/12/2015 by Eilasvaleleyn because: Reasons



posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 11:16 AM
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Should change the thread title.

Who do you want to vote for?

Trump who wants to ban all the muslims.

Sanders who wants to ban all the rich folks.

Which slice of NAZI do you prefer?



posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 11:17 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
Should change the thread title.

Who do you want to vote for?

Trump who wants to ban all the muslims.

Sanders who wants to ban all the rich folks.

Which slice of NAZI do you prefer?


There's a difference between "Taxing at a level that's actually less than FDR" and "Blocking from entering the country" you know?
Well, with what you posted above it probably shouldn't surprise me that you don't.



posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 11:17 AM
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a reply to: neo96

Why should the title be changed to a lie? There is not a single quote ever mentioned by Sanders of him saying he wants to ban rich people. Does your hyperbole know no limits?



posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 11:21 AM
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a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn




Bernie's brand of Socialist isn't anything like Hitler's


Sure it 'isn't' !



The American people must make a fundamental decision. Do we continue the 40-year decline of our middle class and the growing gap between the very rich and everyone else, or do we fight for a progressive economic agenda that creates jobs, raises wages, protects the environment and provides health care for all? Are we prepared to take on the enormous economic and political power of the billionaire class, or do we continue to slide into economic and political oligarchy? These are the most important questions of our time, and how we answer them will determine the future of our country.


berniesanders.com...



It is rotten and dismal that a world of so many hundred million people should be ruled by a single caste that has the power to lead millions to life or to death, indeed on a whim...This caste has spun its web over the entire earth; capitalism recognizes no national boundaries...Capitalism has learned nothing from recent events and wants to learn nothing, because it places its own interests ahead of those of the other millions. Can one blame those millions for standing up for their own interests, and only for those interests? Can one blame them for striving to forge an international community whose purpose is the struggle against corrupt capitalism? Can one condemn a large segment of the educated Sturmer youth for protesting against the greatest ability? Is it not an abomination that people with the most brilliant intellectual gifts should sink into poverty and disintegrate, while others dissipate, squander, and waste the money that could help them? … You say the old propertied class also worked hard for what it has. Granted, that may be true in many cases. But do you also know about the conditions under which workers were living during the period when capitalism “earned” its fortune? Letter to Anka Stalherm (14 April 1920), quoted in Ralph Georg Reuth, Goebbels (Harvest, 1994), pp. 33-34.




We are against the political bourgeoisie, and for genuine nationalism! We are against Marxism, but for true socialism! We are for the first German national state of a socialist nature! We are for the National Socialist German Workers’ Party!




The worker in a capitalist state—and that is his deepest misfortune—is no longer a living human being, a creator, a maker. He has become a machine. A number, a cog in the machine without sense or understanding. He is alienated from what he produces.”




Lenin is the greatest man, second only to Hitler, and that the difference between Communism and the Hitler faith is very slight.




To be a socialist is to submit the I to the thou; socialism is sacrificing the individual to the whole.


en.wikiquote.org...

So the choice IS.

What do people want ?

Trumps version of nazism or Sanders version of nazism ?



posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 11:24 AM
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a reply to: neo96

Why change the thread title? This is a run-off between the two candidates picked in earlier polls.



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