ALL Los Angeles Schools Close Due to "Credible Terror Threat"

a reply to: IridiumFlareMadness

What if, you were told that the threat was "emailed" to cover the fact that mass surveillance and computer algorithms were "running the show"?

Are you certain the threat was "emailed", just because they said so? I'm not so sure. Albeit, I've been out for a while working and haven't really kept up.

I just find some of these replies hilarious....like ya'll got it all figured out and know how "terrorists" operate, no matter how they actually operate....of course, some of ya'll done figured out how the surveillance state operates as well....totally and thoroughly. Pay no mind to the fact that the released information could be cover for rather "unconstitutional" prying eyes and the like...

originally posted by: SRPrime

originally posted by: Jakal26
With so much information on this, I'm glad to see that some of you have already determined this is a "non-threat" and isn't credible.

Must be nice to have the world figured out and placed in little tiny boxes inside your heads'.

Well when no schools in NY blow up, and then subsequently no schools in LA blow up, and no bombs are found in any of them -- will you concede that some people are smarter than you?

And when schools do get attacked and dozens of people wind up dead and the school officials say well, we thought it might be a credible threat but we didn't want to look scurred, will you applaud them for their decision?

No.

You'll jump on ATS and proclaim it a false flag because why wouldn't the school officials close school unless they were "in on it" right?

It never ceases to amaze me how some on here can have all the bases covered so easily.

The terrorist have already won, whether you believe those terrorists to be mad Muslim jihadists, government controlled puppets, and it does not matter.

A single email brought a city down, people really need to use some logic, the IRA used to give warnings prior to a bomb going off, using recognised code words that the intelligence services were aware of but never published thus to avoid false alarms and pranks. ISIS never gives warnings, ever there were no bombs but that does not matter.

People are already caught up in the hype running around like headless chickens.

If you want to beat terrorism then you have carry on regardless of their threats, the minute you change anything because of them you have lost.

I am from the UK, I was in the Army during the height of the republican troubles, and we never changed a thing we carried on because no nutter with a bomb was changing our lives
Stop blaming all Muslims for this, as I said there were nutters in Ireland/Northern Ireland it did not make every Catholic or Protestant a murderer or a terrorist, the vast majority were just ordinary people wanting to live in peace, when a few members of the IRA crept across the border and planted a bomb should we have reacted by carpet bombing Ireland? No of course not.
STOP LIVING IN FEAR… you are just giving them victory, whoever they may be

a reply to: Jakal26

The day that one of these threats is credible…I swear to God…I am going to be all over the asses of your ilk, and you.

When it happens it happens and then you can cry for more police state in the aftermath. When they tell us it might happen, they're playing you.

Either way, you play into their hands.

originally posted by: IridiumFlareMadness
Terrorists don't email threats. They just do it. They don't want you warned.
I knew this when I was in high school back in the 90's and we got our annual bomb threats. We were just stoked to get out of class.

Reposting for snips and giggles…

a reply to: intrptr

OH, I'm sure I will.
Man, you've got the whole world pegged, don't you?

Either way, you play into their hands.

If you say so, hoss...
Funny thing about this....you are playing right into "their" hands, but you'll never see it.
Keep pretending all threats are "fake" and "made up" and they are just "selling fear" and yata yata yata yata.

(Side note: I didn't intend for any reasonable discussion to occur with you. I knew it wouldn't. We've [you and I] been down this road before)...

Your grip on reality left a while ago...
I'll just go back to that "bunker" and "build some more bombs for the DOD"....or some such stuff.

Take care. I've made my point.
Those who see you for what you are see it...those who don't never will.

a reply to: intrptr

HAR HAR HAR....funny...yeah.

But not really based in fact. (As others, or at least one other, pointed out in this thread)

Like I said, must be nice to have the world fit into your little mind boxes.

a reply to: PrinceDreamer

A single email brought a city down, people really need to use some logic, the IRA used to give warnings prior to a bomb going off, using recognised code words that the intelligence services were aware of but never published thus to avoid false alarms and pranks. ISIS never gives warnings, ever there were no bombs but that does not matter.

Are you sure this is the case?
Or are you just relying on what the media tells you?

You basically just described how such a "threat" could be issued without the actual email (code words that the intelligence services were aware of but never published thus to avoid false alarms and pranks.)

Are you sure the "threat" didn't come from the surveillance state using algorithms and the like to "detect" threats via the online world, only to tell you it was "an email" that was sent?

No...no you're not.

a reply to: Shamrock6

Nothing much to say...but, yeah. You nailed it.

a reply to: Jakal26

Keep pretending all threats are "fake" and "made up" and they are just "selling fear" and yata yata yata yata.

Pssst… (whispers), The war on terror was faked to get the oil.

You don't know that?

a reply to: Jakal26

Are you sure the "threat" didn't come from the surveillance state using algorithms and the like to "detect" threats via the online world, only to tell you it was "an email" that was sent?

No…no you're not.

You're still on about it… it wasn't real. I said that this am, because I can smell a manufactured crisis a mile away.

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Jakal26

Are you sure the "threat" didn't come from the surveillance state using algorithms and the like to "detect" threats via the online world, only to tell you it was "an email" that was sent?

No…no you're not.

You're still on about it… it wasn't real. I said that this am, because I can smell a manufactured crisis a mile away.

Of course you can. When one believes everything is "manufactured" it makes it easy to "smell it a mile away." And in those instances when something does happen, those are also "manufactured."

Great work!

originally posted by: Jakal26
a reply to: PrinceDreamer

A single email brought a city down, people really need to use some logic, the IRA used to give warnings prior to a bomb going off, using recognised code words that the intelligence services were aware of but never published thus to avoid false alarms and pranks. ISIS never gives warnings, ever there were no bombs but that does not matter.

Are you sure this is the case?
Or are you just relying on what the media tells you?

You basically just described how such a "threat" could be issued without the actual email (code words that the intelligence services were aware of but never published thus to avoid false alarms and pranks.)

Are you sure the "threat" didn't come from the surveillance state using algorithms and the like to "detect" threats via the online world, only to tell you it was "an email" that was sent?

No...no you're not.

And your reply shows how utterly detached from reality you are. So caught up in everything being a government conspiracy that you fail to recognise that there is and always have been people who disagree profoundly with whatever state they are living under and would never cooperate with it. The narrative from that side allows you to determine what is really going on.

The IRA really did plant bombs. They were Catholics (which is Christian not Muslim) and did far more damage to the UK than ISIS currently has over the same time period. But hey they were Christians so we ignore that little nugget since it is inconvenient for the current headless chicken brainwashing the right wing want us to follow.

NOT bowing to the IRA campaign resulted in the stalemate that eventually led to the peace since the only solution was talking. Now you cannot talk to ISIS but you can be absolutely guaranteed that to follow a path of anti muslim hatred will prolong the fight with ISIS far longer than it should. ISIS need isolating but that can only occur if you do not allow them to manage your way of life. Currently the West is following the ISIS agenda to the letter and Donald Trump, Cameron and Hollande are the dumb cheerleaders.

a reply to: Shamrock6

When one believes everything is "manufactured" it makes it easy to "smell it a mile away."

Not "everything" Officer Hyperbole, just the war on terror and anything representing that in the main stream.

You are still a denizen of Plato's Cave and a minion of the state, too.

You think the shadows dancing in firelight on the wall are real…

a reply to: yorkshirelad

And your reply shows how utterly detached from reality you are. So caught up in everything being a government conspiracy that you fail to recognise that there is and always have been people who disagree profoundly with whatever state they are living under and would never cooperate with it.

Ok...wait, hold up.
Before I continue, or before I even continue fully reading your reply...I'm going to say that you've taken what I've said all wrong. And it's not your fault. I know this because I went back and read my own words and realized how they would sound to others....

"Are you sure the "threat" didn't come from the surveillance state using algorithms and the like to "detect" threats via the online world, only to tell you it was "an email" that was sent?"

........
I did not convey this properly...though in the context of who I was speaking to, I thought I did, in some way....but I didn't.

What I meant, was, how did [the person I was responding to] know that the "threat" was not detected using the things I mentioned, and to cover for the fact that such activity is going on (mainly, for political purposes) we are told the threat came "via email".

I was in no way saying the threat was a "gov. conspiracy"....if anything, the conspiracy is not telling people what type of data/meta data is being collected because......well, fragile people. (and valid questions/complaints)

....ok...going to read the rest of your reply now.

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ETA: I don't disagree with the rest of your post (everything following that first paragraph)


ETA (second time).........I starred your post, regardless paragraph one. Because it was well said, and as I was saying, I agree....though, I think we cannot exclude discussion about who is funding them, in that same breath, because when we do.....we're missing some of the picture (but that is for a thousand other threads already here, aye?)

a reply to: intrptr

Pssst… (whispers), The war on terror was faked to get the oil. You don't know that?

T&C prohibits me from trying to stir you (in my own way).
The fact that such a simplistic answer comes from your mouth shows me you don't know what you're talking about.

...furthermore, you still think "manufactured" equals "faked". (or so says this simplistic approach...and given this is ATS, I thought we were better than such simplificat......ah, nevermind, who am I kidding)

You think "manufactured" equals "non threat"...you find the world to be "static". It's not.
You sit here and talk about "terrorist motives" in regards to what makes many of these fanatics tick (in your opinion) yet don't see how a manufactured war can lead to a real goddamned situation.

You think I'm disagreeing on some f'n moral grounds....but you're not worth the time explaining it.
You're like the countless mindless around my fb who think they've got it all figured out, buck.


You don't know jack....besides what you think you know.

Step out of your head and into the real world for a moment and see that some of us aren't defending police state, fascist f'n 'murica, just because we have valid concerns about those already (and ongoing, btw) radicalized by illegal and unjust wars for profit, control, and strategic advantage....

a reply to: Shamrock6

Why am I agreeing with you?

You and I, LOL....in the RW....we are on virtually "opposite" sides of "the law" (given the current laws in this country...and that's all I'll say. You'll know).....yet, I see more reason and rational in some of the obvious things you post here...........ahhh...don't get a big head. I've just been drinking and am just saying.

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Shamrock6

When one believes everything is "manufactured" it makes it easy to "smell it a mile away."

Not "everything" Officer Hyperbole, just the war on terror and anything representing that in the main stream.

You are still a denizen of Plato's Cave and a minion of the state, too.

You think the shadows dancing in firelight on the wall are real…

Now now, no need to resort to cute pet names for me, honeybuns.

Don't try to "interpret" what you think I think. My comments are based off things you've actually posted. Your trying to guess my inner most thoughts is just more mental gymnastics on your part to deflect and spin things, as is your usual MO.

Better a minion than a moron, eh?

a reply to: Jakal26

Logic.

Some have it. Some don't.

I had a whole thing written. Lost it. Ive seen a school shut down over threats. I mean more than 1/3 of the school year days. I'll skip all that and just give my gut reaction and preferred solution:

I would be furious with the administration for shutting down the schools.

Make an emergency notification, and no penalties for truancy.

If my childrens school had an access policy where we could take a random emails word for what is happening or going to happen in our own building, then I would want that school shut down permanently until it can be made safe. Whether that required renovations, policy changes, or personnel additions or deletions, would be immaterial.

Now if you had a threat, and it just so happens the cops were there twice last night because the motion sensors tripped then you have reason for a shutdown. IOW, if you have a threat that is not even remotely credible, but have any red flags in your access control and/or security sytems and personnel that corroborate, then by all means, go ahead and freak out.