Donald Trump Calls For 'Complete Shutdown' Of Muslims Entering U.S.

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Krazysh0t

I he is elected the next potus then god help not only the United States but also the rest of the world.

Seriously... I'm really worried about. I've never felt so worried about a potential Presidential candidate before. Normally when you hear about how a President is destroying the country or whatever it is mostly just sour grapes, but this is different. Trump plans on seriously breaking things and that is a problem.

He's much better than obama, so I would say that you're gonna be safe from harm. Just watch out for someone screaming allaha akbar.

So a coward that was too scared to serve in Vietnam is going to keep America safe. He will do just as good as the last two cowards that dodged Vietnam in keeping the country safe. If Trump gets elected start practicing your goosestepping it may help.

a reply to: LSU0408

I suppose it depends on ones definition of sensible. As to me going on a killing spree and after Trump, hes perfectly safe, im on the other side of the pond.

You think sensibly minded people are going to vote him into office and its me who should get checked out???

May i suggest a spoonful of your own medicine! LoL

a reply to: neformore

When it happens, he'll say they had it coming

After his supporters beat up a Black Lives Matter protester on video, Donald Trump suggested that they may have done the right thing.

“Maybe he should have been roughed up,” he said. “It was disgusting what he was doing.”

He gave a similarly winking response when his supporters have turned violent in the past. Two men in Boston said they ambushed and brutally beat a homeless Latino man because they were “inspired” by Trump, who later explained his supporters “are very passionate” and “love this country.”

Reports of Trump supporters launching violent and racist attacks have become fairly commonplace. Another recent rally took a dark turn when attendees shoved and spat on on immigration advocates. The following week, Trump supporters were filmed dragging and kicking an immigration activist while others yelled “U-S-A! U-S-A!”

After a slew of these highly publicized incidents, Trump’s campaign began corralling media this week and refused to allow reporters into the crowd at rallies.

www.lifezette.com... campaign=laura_ingraham_buffer

This is a very very good read. This will end up just like the call for the wall.

“The problem is Trump is — I’m not sure how much of a grasp he has on this fire that he’s playing with,” he said.

McCarthy, who wrote a book last year laying out the case for the impeachment of President Obama for his failure to enforce immigration laws, said the politically acceptable opinion is to stop jihadis from coming to America.

“That’s not the problem,” he said. “The problem is if you let Islamic supremacists in the country, they form Shariah enclaves as they have all throughout Europe. And that is the atmosphere in which radicalization occurs.”

Concerns over applying “religious tests” to immigration are misplaced, McCarthy said.

“The big thing, Laura, is that Islam, strictly speaking, is not merely a religion,” he said. “So everybody’s who’s in an uproar on the basis of thinking this is unconstitutionally applying a religious test to Islam is assuming that Islam is a religion just like other religions that we’re familiar with in the West.”

McCarthy said the first Muslims he met were patriotic, pro-Western Muslims who helped him make the case against the so-called blind sheik, Omar Abdel-Rahman in 1995. They are the Muslims America wants, he said. But he added that many Muslims do not recognize a division between spiritual and political life.

“That is basically antithetical to our Constitution,” he said. “It can’t be that we can’t figure out a way to keep the pro-Western Muslims in and on our side, and keep these Shariah supremacists out.”

a reply to: matafuchs

“It can’t be that we can’t figure out a way to keep the pro-Western Muslims in and on our side, and keep these Shariah supremacists out.”

The extremists have learned a long time ago that the best way to keep from being excised is to hide among innocents, blend in with the population.

And now, they have figured out how to take advantage of our Constitutional provisions that protect us all. They know our Constitution probably better than some Americans...almost as if they have a Constitutional lawyer advising them.

originally posted by: LSU0408


Lmao! Most sensibly minded people are going to vote him into office.

It seems as though you are in lala land.

Sensibly-minded people would not touch him with a bargepole, let alone give him their vote.

He would be the ruin of your country.

a reply to: forkedtongue

As a member of your described demographic, I can agree with some of the things you said, but not for the reasons you stated. Middle aged educated whites see ourselves working tirelessely every day, while getting cut off at the knees constantly by the gov.

Do you feel that middle-aged, not very well educated whites (educated ones are doing fine) are being discriminated against by the government? Could you describe exactly how?

The same gov, that treats illegal immigrants better than the same folks paying those tax dollars.

In what way are illegal immigrants treated better than taxpayers?

It is seriously a sad but true joke, that many of us middle aged educated whites, could double our standard of living by leaving america, buying fake foreign documentation, and illegally reentering as an illegal immigrant than staying in our current situation.

I am sure this is a huge exaggeration. If it isn't, could you prove it, please?

Is it so hard to see the reason for the frustration?

No; but from where I stand it still seems like frustration over loss of privilege. To convince me otherwise you would need to prove the above claims with facts.

a reply to: Spiramirabilis

If you were to start rounding up Muslims tomorrow and putting them in camps - or killing them - there are people that would now rationalize this as being acceptable under the circumstances. Acceptable and necessary

This, of course, is exactly how the Nazis came to power in 1933. This is America's Reichstag moment.

Tips to americans here... xD

Please, realize that Trump is doing all what Hitler did :

- Want to ban 1 religion
- Want to built a wall
- Make fun/humiliate Handicap people
- Make fun/humiliate opposition
- Make fun/humiliate female
- Make long/weird speech, just to get reaction
- Doing "Troll" things to get attention
- Using money to get attention ( Hitler was the first to use a plane for campaing )

Etc etc.

Just a warning, even here in Canada the NDP calling for a Ban of Donald Trump ( For south park fan, they predicted that this season xD ).

But i think Trump will lose, maybe americans dont read news paper around the world xD. But you look so freaking dumb right now xD ( because Trump is the leader ). But i think most of USAers see that.

GOP canadidat should start to give up and allie with one of the top man against him.

But seriously, it's almost really look like Trump is there to doom GOP for 15yrs xD Destroying the credibility by showing how their partisans vote.

Anyways, as a outsider, i admit, it's funny to Lol at your situation. Just to get him in the white house or it's WW3 for real ( and USA would be the "nazi", that's the problems)

Lol Wall and banning religion xD... Never taught i would see a "hitler 2" in my live time xD We are in 2015!!!

( Btw, i know that ISIS is they real "Nazi" right now, but they are a criminal organisation. Not a fonctional country. Trump is running for being president of one of the biggest country xD. That why all the civilize world look at you like that : )

a reply to: FreeQuebec86

Anyways, as a outsider, i admit, it's funny to Lol at your situation. Just to get him in the white house or it's WW3 for real ( and USA would be the "nazi", that's the problems)

You won't find it so funny when President Donald is in the White House and Quebec is made part of the USA in an Anschluss.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: LSU0408

Keeping muslims from entering into America is a good way to make sure the rest of the civilized world hates us.

You mean like F.D.R. did with the Italians and Germans and Japanese,barring them from coming to this country?Like Jimmy Carter barred the Iranians?

The statement bothered me to the core, and I kept asking myself, how could a presidential candidate, so high in the polls, say this, when there would be obviously so much backlash, it may not be sustainable.

I rationalized it this way:

It is obvious that we are not doing a great job of stopping high risk, (are or would be) terrorists from entering the U.S. The green card debacle is case in point...

Trump said "until we can get it under control". It is immediately profiling Muslims, but another case in point: It is radicalized Muslims that we want to keep out. We are not having problems here with protestants, catholics, hindu, buhdist...etc. Although that does not say that ANYONE could not be radicalized and bent on causing trouble here, but it is in essence the 80/20 rule. You have to concentrate on probabilities of detection that will be effective. Presently, we are disabled in conducting that because it is so politically incorrect.

I can see the anguish in the peaceful Muslim communities. However, if we all want lo live here without being threatened as well, then something has to be done in out management capabilities of this situation that is effective from the get-go, Once we establish the safety measures necessary to ensure ALL Americans have a reasonable latitude of safety, these temporary restrictions will be eased.

Yea, it sucks as an American to even say this, but we need a working plan. Presently we have none.

It is going to bet a bit dicy, to say the least.

That scenario is the only one I could think of when Trump said this... and I hope I am correct in this interpretation... or I am as dead wrong as the many who support him if I am incorrect.

a reply to: Astyanax

We've been watching this possibility materialize for years now - Trump and ISIS have created the perfect storm

Watching the news tonight:

Paul Ryan’s succinct, near-perfect response to Trump’s call to ban Muslims entering U.S.

Not ordinarily one of my favorite guys, but I'd like to shake his hand. Oddly enough, out of all this we might end up with the gift of a national reality check

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: bjarneorn

No he doesn't have a point. Basically this rhetoric goes. We are so scared of ALL muslims that because we aren't sure which ones are trying to kill us so we are just going to not let any near us. That is some seriously depraved logic there.

The best is the caveat at the end, "Until we can figure out a solution to the problem". What? We are going on our 3rd President since 9/11 and many more since the 70's when this trend of extremist Muslims terrorism started. We aren't going to come up with a reasonable solution to this mess. What will happen (if trump were to actually be successful with this idiotic proposal) is that we'd implement it then a generation or so down the line (or maybe even the next President) we'd repeal it. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if SCOTUS flat out overturned it while he was the President.

It's not just muslims from the ME. Hell, I don't trust anyone outside of America besides Canadians and English speaking Europeans.

Well at least you are consistent in your paranoia.

Paranoia - suspicion and mistrust of people or their actions without evidence or justification.

Sorry but my distrust isn't due to a lack of evidence or justification. It's hardly paranoia.

Yea, from what I've gathered talking to you, I think that is an accurate label.

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: LSU0408

Not really. Being ISIS or doing something in the name of ISIS gets you on a terrorist watch list. You are just hung up that no one wants to call them Muslim terrorists instead of just terrorists.

You're just assuming that's what I want (I believe we're now tied 2-2 in the assumption category). I don't discriminate, I want all terrorism watched within America (IRS targeting towards Conservative organizations during election years doesn't count), and block all outsiders until we fix our own issues. Tashfeen killed in the name of ISIS. 14 people died. Nobody knew she was involved or pledged to ISIS until after the fact. I know it's easier said than done, that's why I'd rather we get that fixed first. Why can't we take care of our own first?

Why do you think we aren't taking care of our own? I mean part of the world is that bad things happen. You can't prevent or account for every possible situation. It's impossible. All you can do is minimize the risks, but there is a balance. We don't want to sacrifice who we are and what we stand for as a country to do it. And the path most anti-Muslim people want us to take us down is a path I'm not willing to follow because it compromises what it is that makes us American.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
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First off, we can't keep unwanted Mexicans out of the country and the racist Trump wants to ban a WHOLE other demographic. Seriously, his rhetoric is getting out of hand. I feel like the Grand Wizard of the KKK is running for President AND somehow being successful. Is this the Twilight Zone...?

I wish I was in the nose cone of the space shuttle. I like it on close encounters of the third kind they start rolling that globe around. To find a place. That was before the internet. And before google earth and mapquest. And before GPS. Just give us the soupy sales routine. The leader of the starving says Debbie Faulkner. Having a video game character dressed in horns is politically correct. You can’t see what race or color
Funny how they are playing the movie red dawn with the comments that Donald Trump made about Mexicans and muslims. What are they trying to say? Bleed us?
It is going to take more than novocure, electric fields and field agents in Atlanta to get us out of the dark ages. These are tough times says LAPD police chief Charlie beck. We have amazon robots so why are we closing down nine hundred schools?

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
reply to post by Krazysh0t

 

What needs to be done is AMERICANS need to stop living in intolerant ignorance of these subjects and actually educate themselves on what is really going on instead of relying on politicians to fix all their problems.

It’s time to stop highlighting things in orange!

Don’t ask me. Four people around a plastic table in Iowa. Says Donald Trump. People the police are about 64 percent wrong all of the time. They are vetting the wrong people. Good people get vetted. And we are the targets. Christians are targetted by American police. Now santa is on the naughty list. Our corrupted culture and society. Thanks to Lincoln Chafee it’s a witch hunt to find out which democrats voted for the Iraq war.
Futurama. Yeah that is a good show. It has a robot or a cyborg praying to Amenhotep.

Lets bring them all over here. Lets turn up the heat under the melting pot theory and see what happens Next.