Donald Trump Calls For 'Complete Shutdown' Of Muslims Entering U.S.

a reply to: LSU0408

Not really. Being ISIS or doing something in the name of ISIS gets you on a terrorist watch list. You are just hung up that no one wants to call them Muslim terrorists instead of just terrorists.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Krazysh0t

I he is elected the next potus then god help not only the United States but also the rest of the world.

Seriously... I'm really worried about. I've never felt so worried about a potential Presidential candidate before. Normally when you hear about how a President is destroying the country or whatever it is mostly just sour grapes, but this is different. Trump plans on seriously breaking things and that is a problem.

He's much better than obama, so I would say that you're gonna be safe from harm. Just watch out for someone screaming allaha akbar.

Once again...watch this video

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Krazysh0t

I he is elected the next potus then god help not only the United States but also the rest of the world.

Seriously... I'm really worried about. I've never felt so worried about a potential Presidential candidate before. Normally when you hear about how a President is destroying the country or whatever it is mostly just sour grapes, but this is different. Trump plans on seriously breaking things and that is a problem.

He's much better than obama, so I would say that you're gonna be safe from harm. Just watch out for someone screaming allaha akbar.

Yea ok. I'm not going to play this game with you. I get it you think liberals are the devil and Obama is satan. You are wrong, but nothing I'm going to say here is going to change your mind.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Seriously, for want of a better word, that Man being elected is a terrifying prospect!

The really scary part is that it might just happen!

And that prospect scared the dam bejesus out of most sensibly minded people.

Lmao! Most sensibly minded people are going to vote him into office. Actually... You're beginning to sound like you're gonna be the next lunatic that falls off his tracks and goes on a killing spree after Trump is elected. Probably wouldn't be a bad idea to get yourself checked in. You're fear could lead to crazy things.

originally posted by: Skywatcher2011

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Skywatcher2011

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: Krazysh0t

I understand that you don't care. We all know the statistics and that you're more likely to be struck by lightning than killed in a terrorist attack, but statistics can only go off what has happened in the past. For instance, at one point, six out of ten people died of the Bubonic Plague. Prior to the 80's, one person died from AIDS. Last year alone, 1.2 million died from AIDS.

If our risk of being killed in a terrorist attack is less than being struck by lightning, I'd rather keep it that way and not add to it. I mean, letting refugees in right now is like walking right out into the storm with a metal rod in your hand.

Well the derivative of that risk isn't increasing either. So you still don't have to worry about anything.

None of us know that.

Actually we have a pretty good idea about that because the rate of terrorist attacks done by Muslims in the country isn't on the rise. Though many, such as yourself, like to assume it is rising. Hence all the anti-Muslim rhetoric that y'all defend so aggressively.

I may actually agree with you on this one

But what is on the rise is the "War on Terrorism" propaganda...not to say that terror attacks won't increase over the next coming years or months [by radical muslims]...but in hindsight any current number or statistic can be skewed extemporaneously without proper fact checking.

And that is what is fueling all the xenophobic stuff about Muslims recently, the rise of "war on terrorism" propaganda that isn't matching a rise in muslim terrorism stateside.

I agree with that but I still don't agree with allowing undocumented immigrants to come here from a war country in an economic situation where millions of people are also without jobs. Can't happen until the US can get itself out of a verge of economic collapse and total chaos.

Edit: Trump is wanting to prevent an increase in Muslim attacks as well...think about Paris, think about 9/11, think about what one radicalized person can do to tens, hundreds or thousands of individuals???

In the past, I've stated that there are 3,143 Counties/Parishes in America. Get one radical terrorist strategically placed in the biggest, most crowded place in each county and all attack on the same day or week, and we'd immediately go into a state of emergency and frenzy, although after reading a few ATS posters' thoughts on Trump, they may go into a state of emergency once he's elected.

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: Skywatcher2011

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Skywatcher2011

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: Krazysh0t

I understand that you don't care. We all know the statistics and that you're more likely to be struck by lightning than killed in a terrorist attack, but statistics can only go off what has happened in the past. For instance, at one point, six out of ten people died of the Bubonic Plague. Prior to the 80's, one person died from AIDS. Last year alone, 1.2 million died from AIDS.

If our risk of being killed in a terrorist attack is less than being struck by lightning, I'd rather keep it that way and not add to it. I mean, letting refugees in right now is like walking right out into the storm with a metal rod in your hand.

Well the derivative of that risk isn't increasing either. So you still don't have to worry about anything.

None of us know that.

Actually we have a pretty good idea about that because the rate of terrorist attacks done by Muslims in the country isn't on the rise. Though many, such as yourself, like to assume it is rising. Hence all the anti-Muslim rhetoric that y'all defend so aggressively.

I may actually agree with you on this one

But what is on the rise is the "War on Terrorism" propaganda...not to say that terror attacks won't increase over the next coming years or months [by radical muslims]...but in hindsight any current number or statistic can be skewed extemporaneously without proper fact checking.

And that is what is fueling all the xenophobic stuff about Muslims recently, the rise of "war on terrorism" propaganda that isn't matching a rise in muslim terrorism stateside.

I agree with that but I still don't agree with allowing undocumented immigrants to come here from a war country in an economic situation where millions of people are also without jobs. Can't happen until the US can get itself out of a verge of economic collapse and total chaos.

Edit: Trump is wanting to prevent an increase in Muslim attacks as well...think about Paris, think about 9/11, think about what one radicalized person can do to tens, hundreds or thousands of individuals???

In the past, I've stated that there are 3,143 Counties/Parishes in America. Get one radical terrorist strategically placed in the biggest, most crowded place in each county and all attack on the same day or week, and we'd immediately go into a state of emergency and frenzy, although after reading a few ATS posters' thoughts on Trump, they may go into a state of emergency once he's elected.

Can you say Marshall Law and the presence of a strong military force the US will never have to use (overseas) but more for ground troop patrol on US soil instead?

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Ok, well you still can't be the leader of the land of the free unless you are born here. I stand by my original comment.

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Krazysh0t

I he is elected the next potus then god help not only the United States but also the rest of the world.

Seriously... I'm really worried about. I've never felt so worried about a potential Presidential candidate before. Normally when you hear about how a President is destroying the country or whatever it is mostly just sour grapes, but this is different. Trump plans on seriously breaking things and that is a problem.

He's much better than obama, so I would say that you're gonna be safe from harm. Just watch out for someone screaming allaha akbar.

I'm speechless at your ignorance. Just educate yourself from viable sources.

You're so far off on this, it's depressing.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: bjarneorn

No he doesn't have a point. Basically this rhetoric goes. We are so scared of ALL muslims that because we aren't sure which ones are trying to kill us so we are just going to not let any near us. That is some seriously depraved logic there.

The best is the caveat at the end, "Until we can figure out a solution to the problem". What? We are going on our 3rd President since 9/11 and many more since the 70's when this trend of extremist Muslims terrorism started. We aren't going to come up with a reasonable solution to this mess. What will happen (if trump were to actually be successful with this idiotic proposal) is that we'd implement it then a generation or so down the line (or maybe even the next President) we'd repeal it. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if SCOTUS flat out overturned it while he was the President.

It's not just muslims from the ME. Hell, I don't trust anyone outside of America besides Canadians and English speaking Europeans.

Well at least you are consistent in your paranoia.

Paranoia - suspicion and mistrust of people or their actions without evidence or justification.

Sorry but my distrust isn't due to a lack of evidence or justification. It's hardly paranoia.

originally posted by: amicktd

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: Skywatcher2011

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: Skywatcher2011

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: Skywatcher2011

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Skywatcher2011

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Skywatcher2011
Btw...Trump is VERY RIGHT on illegal immigration...that includes accepting undocumented citizens from another country. He is not racist...he believes in the constitution, law and order. Right now the US is in DISORDER.

Where does it say in the constitution that you are allowed to document everyone of a certain religion?

Oh quit using religion as an excuse to allow for illegal immigration. Btw...how about you copy and paste the constitution on here and YOU show me where it says that...oh and I thought that was called LAW????

Why should I prove your illogical argument for you? You said that Trump supports the constitution. So tell me where it says in the constitution that you are allowed to register all people of a certain religion (in this case Muslims).

For clarity sake, I'm talking about this Trumpism:

Trump: ‘Absolutely’ Register All Muslims In A Database

Thank you...I may be a Trump supporter but before I jump on a headline on what he said...I check all my facts...and quotes and explanations before I jump to any conclusion.

No never did answer my question....how would Bernie Sanders handle this issue? Still walking around with no clue?

More often than not i disagree with Krazysh0t, but hes right on this with Trump....

/end rant

Hey bud...have a look at the video I posted up on Page 9 of this thread...Krazysh0t only represented half of Trumps statement and turned that into a debate without completing DJT thoughts....just like the whole "The American Dream is DEAD..." media trip.

Agreed... You've been spot on throughout this thread.

Thank you. I try to research all headline statements before I jump to any conclusion on what he said/she said article titles. Especially when it comes to the highly controversial DJT who IMO a truther and fact checker.

You'll never get your word through to a fence post. Over the past 7 years, progressive liberals have been told that it's ok to speak without thinking. When presented with the truth, they blame Bush or deflect. You can tell by their reaction they get when they have an actual story about the crap they make up.

I think its fair to say that happens on both sides of the aisle, right where I like to sit. Whoever has the best policies in my opinion gets my vote. Bernie may get my very first vote, if he doesn't mess it up by then.

I think the best chance to grab the votes from those teetering on the fence was tossed out after he was pretty much discarded by the left. Jim Webb was an old Democrat from the Reagan era and was still proud of the military and believed America's greatest threat was terrorism instead of global warming and Republicans. Hell I'm a hard right Conservative and I even liked the guy.

originally posted by: AshOnMyTomatoes

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Krazysh0t

I wish someone would completely shut him down!

Definitely the type of fellow who's life support i would turn off just to charge my mobile.

Fact is the Man is nothing more than a menace to reality, even through he obviously does not live there.

Secede and you all can have your very own government ran by hillary and/or Bernie. I fully support your secession. We'll take Trump, or whoever the Republican nominee is. Let's see which side crumbles. Would you be up for that?

Have you actually said whether you agree with this blatant megalomaniacal racism discussed in the OP? Because so far I've only seen you deflect the discussion to HIllary, or be abusive to the fellow posters.

Go read the thread, I'm not gonna babysit you and tell you all the pages and posts where I've stated my opinion on the matter. And I didn't see any racism in the OP. That's just your biased opinion.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: LSU0408

Not really. Being ISIS or doing something in the name of ISIS gets you on a terrorist watch list. You are just hung up that no one wants to call them Muslim terrorists instead of just terrorists.

You're just assuming that's what I want (I believe we're now tied 2-2 in the assumption category). I don't discriminate, I want all terrorism watched within America (IRS targeting towards Conservative organizations during election years doesn't count), and block all outsiders until we fix our own issues. Tashfeen killed in the name of ISIS. 14 people died. Nobody knew she was involved or pledged to ISIS until after the fact. I know it's easier said than done, that's why I'd rather we get that fixed first. Why can't we take care of our own first?

a reply to: Krazysh0t

You're right that nothing you will say about obama is going to change my mind about him, but I've already told you I'm not trying to be in a pissing match with you. We've gone back and forth for a couple of weeks now and I've actually grown to respect you and your posts. I just disagree with you for the most part.

originally posted by: LSU0408And I didn't see any racism in the OP. That's just your biased opinion.

So wholesale discrimination against Muslims isn't racist?

originally posted by: Skywatcher2011

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: Skywatcher2011

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Skywatcher2011

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: Krazysh0t

I understand that you don't care. We all know the statistics and that you're more likely to be struck by lightning than killed in a terrorist attack, but statistics can only go off what has happened in the past. For instance, at one point, six out of ten people died of the Bubonic Plague. Prior to the 80's, one person died from AIDS. Last year alone, 1.2 million died from AIDS.

If our risk of being killed in a terrorist attack is less than being struck by lightning, I'd rather keep it that way and not add to it. I mean, letting refugees in right now is like walking right out into the storm with a metal rod in your hand.

Well the derivative of that risk isn't increasing either. So you still don't have to worry about anything.

None of us know that.

Actually we have a pretty good idea about that because the rate of terrorist attacks done by Muslims in the country isn't on the rise. Though many, such as yourself, like to assume it is rising. Hence all the anti-Muslim rhetoric that y'all defend so aggressively.

I may actually agree with you on this one

But what is on the rise is the "War on Terrorism" propaganda...not to say that terror attacks won't increase over the next coming years or months [by radical muslims]...but in hindsight any current number or statistic can be skewed extemporaneously without proper fact checking.

And that is what is fueling all the xenophobic stuff about Muslims recently, the rise of "war on terrorism" propaganda that isn't matching a rise in muslim terrorism stateside.

I agree with that but I still don't agree with allowing undocumented immigrants to come here from a war country in an economic situation where millions of people are also without jobs. Can't happen until the US can get itself out of a verge of economic collapse and total chaos.

Edit: Trump is wanting to prevent an increase in Muslim attacks as well...think about Paris, think about 9/11, think about what one radicalized person can do to tens, hundreds or thousands of individuals???

In the past, I've stated that there are 3,143 Counties/Parishes in America. Get one radical terrorist strategically placed in the biggest, most crowded place in each county and all attack on the same day or week, and we'd immediately go into a state of emergency and frenzy, although after reading a few ATS posters' thoughts on Trump, they may go into a state of emergency once he's elected.

Can you say Marshall Law and the presence of a strong military force the US will never have to use (overseas) but more for ground troop patrol on US soil instead?

You're correct. Martial Law is what I was thinking of, although a state of emergency could be possible as well.

a reply to: THEatsking

Then skip my posts because the feeling is mutual.

a reply to: AshOnMyTomatoes

No, not at all. To you it may be about keeping muslims out, but to many people, it's about keeping out more potential radical extremists. I think we have enough home grown extremists as it is. Calling Trump racist for what he said is as silly as calling me racist for voting for McCain and Romney instead of obama.

This is all about how you receive the message being spoken.

a reply to: LSU0408

Those are lone wolves that aren't supported by Christians, lol. Look, America has enough problems.

Typical cry by the right wing Christians when one of theirs goes crazy and kills people they say they aren't supported by Christians even though you can find Christians online after the event supporting what they did. But when it comes to Muslims then all Muslims are to blame. Hypocrite much?