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This is not new , it's been happening for a long time and there is no annexation of Iraqi territory .
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: 23432
This is not new , it's been happening for a long time and there is no annexation of Iraqi territory .
Wherever US bases are thats considered Sovereign US territory.
Planting the flag, flying the flag and all that. Can't get any more 'annexed' than occupying foreign lands militarily.
originally posted by: crazyewok
FFS. What the hell is Turkey thinking?
Poke the bear and get us all killed why don’t you?
Chuck these loose cannons out of NATO!
Of course ATS resident shill will be along soon to tell us we should all back Turkey to the bitter end even if it means all our deaths.......
originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: nwtrucker
Well why don't you go live in Turkey then?
And let Russia have the ME! It's caused us nothing but grief and trouble so let Putin have it. Maybe it will distract him for the next half century.
Lose? I say handing over the ME to Russia is a win for us. Good riddance to those barbarians.
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: 23432
Qatar is also a US covert training base for Syrian insurgents that go back and forth through Turkey…
You say Turks are there, too? Go figure…
Liveleak, arming the rebels
originally posted by: infolurker
originally posted by: crazyewok
FFS. What the hell is Turkey thinking?
Poke the bear and get us all killed why don’t you?
Chuck these loose cannons out of NATO!
Of course ATS resident shill will be along soon to tell us we should all back Turkey to the bitter end even if it means all our deaths.......
LOL, I am with you.
Boot them out of Nato and while we are at it boot the UN out of New York.
originally posted by: 23432
originally posted by: infolurker
originally posted by: crazyewok
FFS. What the hell is Turkey thinking?
Poke the bear and get us all killed why don’t you?
Chuck these loose cannons out of NATO!
Of course ATS resident shill will be along soon to tell us we should all back Turkey to the bitter end even if it means all our deaths.......
LOL, I am with you.
Boot them out of Nato and while we are at it boot the UN out of New York.
Nato friendly Caliphate is what Nato wants ; it is inevitable that the Caliphate will make a come back .
Is it better to have it at the hands of ISIS like so called muslims - who controls European ENERGY - or is it better to have it at the hands of Western friendly Turks .
1. EZEKIEL 38 CONFIRMS TURKEY’S LEADERSHIP ROLE
From the prophecies examined in the Book of Ezekiel, we saw that Turkey was significantly emphasized. Of the eight locations that were specified in the Gog Prophecy of Ezekiel 38, five were located firmly within Turkey. Magog, Meshech, Tubal, Togormah, and Gomer are all areas that were within the boundaries of modern Turkey. The fact that Turkey was so heavily emphasized is not something to be ignored. God highlighted Turkey for a reason. However, it is important that this theory by confirmed by other passages, as well.
2. REVELATION 17 CONFIRMS TURKEY’S LEADERSHIP ROLE
From Revelation 17, we concluded that the Islamic Empire, culminating in the Turkish Ottoman Empire, was the seventh Biblical Beast Empire. The capital of the Ottoman Empire was Istanbul, formely Constantinople, the capital of the Eastern Roman Byzantine Empire. Today, Istanbul sits on the northwestern corner of Turkey. The reason that the location of the capitals of the last beast empire may be important is because as the head of the last beast empire, it is possible that it will receive the ‘fatal head wound’ that will come back and awe the world: ‘One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was astonished and followed the beast’ (Revelation 13:3).
3. DANIEL 9 CONFIRMS TURKEY’S LEADERSHIP ROLE
We also examined Daniel 9, where the Bible says that it would be the ‘people of the prince to come’ that would destroy the Jewish Temple. In other words, the ethnic peoples of whom the future Antichrist would be the leader would destroy the Jewish Temple. We saw that the primary group that carried out this destruction was the tenth legion of the Roman army (Legion X fretensis), which was stationed in Antioch. Antioch was also the area from wich the tenth legion drew most of its recruits. These soldiers were primarily Syrians and Arabs. Today, Antioch is located within the borders of Turkey, on the southeastern corner of Turkey near Syria. As such, this is yet another witness to the notion that the Antichrist would come from the region of modern Turkey.
4. DANIEL 11 CONFIRMS TURKEY’S LEADERSHIP ROLE
Our fourth confirmation was found in Daniel 11, where we saw that the Antichrist was prefigured by Antiochus IV Epiphanies, the ‘King of the North’ or the ruler of the Seleucid Division of the Greek Empire. We may expect to see the Antichrist emerge somewhere from within the region of the former Seleucid Empire. The Seleucid Empire covered a large portion of modern Turkey.
5. ISAIAH AND MICHA CONFIRM AN ASSYRIAN ROLL
We also studied the great emphasis that the prophets Isaiah and Micah placed on the future conflict between the Messiah and the Assyrian, who was a type of Antichrist. These prophecies also points us to the regions of the former Assyrian Empire, which engulfed a large portion of modern Turkey.
6. ZECHARIAH CONFIRMS TURKEY’S LEADERSHIP ROLE
Zechariah 9 clearly lists Yavan/Ionia (Turkey) as the primary player in the Last-Days attack against Israel. Many will have missed the prophecy due to a commonly used yet misleading translation: ‘I will rouse your sons, O Zion, against your sons, Greece (Yavan, Ionia).’ The key aspect of this passage is the reference to the sons of a place called Zion (Jews) fighting against the sons of a place called Yavan (Turks). Yavan was a descendant of Noah who came to live on the western coast of Asia Minor, or modern day Turkey, in the area that came to known as Ionia. See also Joel 3:6. Zecharia 9 is clearly speaking in terms that only can be applicable to the Last-Days, and the return of Jesus the Messiah ‘Jehovah will appear over them.’ After this time, the Messiah will rule Israel and her land will be far greater than it is today:
‘He (the Messiah) will proclaim peace to the nations. His rule will extend from sea to sea and from the River to the ends of the earth. As for you, because of the blood of my covenant with you, I will free your prisoners from the waterless pit. Return to your fortress, O prisoners of hope; even now I announce that I will restore twice as much to you. I will bend Judah as I bend my bow and fill it with Ephraim. I will rouse your sons, O Zion, against your sons, O Greece [Yavan, Ionia], and make you like a warrior’s sword. Then Jehovah will appear over them; His arrow will flash like lightning. The Sovereign Jehovah will sound the trumpet; He will march in the storms of the South, and Jehovah Almighty will shield them. They will destroy and overcome with clingstones … Jehovah their God will save them on that day as the flock of His people. They will sparkle in His land like jewels in a crown. How attractive and beautiful they will be!’ (Zecharia 9).
originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: crazyewok
So Turkey should be kicked out of NATO?
Last time I checked, we are at war. Have been for a while now.
A line in the sand is needed, here. Turkish airspace is Turkey's business.
Russia embargos Turkey and expects no retaliation from Turkey when Russia is using Turk ports? Really?
Who's pushing the envelope here? Turkey or Putin? Perhaps both. Until this is sorted out, individual countries, by definition, are 'loose cannon'. NATO isn't a lock-step empire...no matter how the anti-Americans like to paint it.
originally posted by: infolurker
Yes. You do know the deal.
I wish everyone had this insight. The revived Eastern Roman / Ottoman Empire is inevitable. Prophesied.
originally posted by: asen_y2k
Guys relax. These are cargo ships. Its in retaliation as Russia is holding their cargo ships too.
Abdullah Bozkurt @abdbozkurt 3 hod. #Turkey retains 4 #Russia freighters after inspections in Black Sea port Samsun in retaliation to Russian holding of #Turkish freighters
Nothing big here.
originally posted by: infolurker
originally posted by: 23432
originally posted by: infolurker
originally posted by: crazyewok
FFS. What the hell is Turkey thinking?
Poke the bear and get us all killed why don’t you?
Chuck these loose cannons out of NATO!
Of course ATS resident shill will be along soon to tell us we should all back Turkey to the bitter end even if it means all our deaths.......
LOL, I am with you.
Boot them out of Nato and while we are at it boot the UN out of New York.
Nato friendly Caliphate is what Nato wants ; it is inevitable that the Caliphate will make a come back .
Is it better to have it at the hands of ISIS like so called muslims - who controls European ENERGY - or is it better to have it at the hands of Western friendly Turks .
Yes. You do know the deal.
I wish everyone had this insight. The revived Eastern Roman / Ottoman Empire is inevitable. Prophesied.
www.vriendenvanisrael.nl...
1. EZEKIEL 38 CONFIRMS TURKEY’S LEADERSHIP ROLE
From the prophecies examined in the Book of Ezekiel, we saw that Turkey was significantly emphasized. Of the eight locations that were specified in the Gog Prophecy of Ezekiel 38, five were located firmly within Turkey. Magog, Meshech, Tubal, Togormah, and Gomer are all areas that were within the boundaries of modern Turkey. The fact that Turkey was so heavily emphasized is not something to be ignored. God highlighted Turkey for a reason. However, it is important that this theory by confirmed by other passages, as well.
2. REVELATION 17 CONFIRMS TURKEY’S LEADERSHIP ROLE
From Revelation 17, we concluded that the Islamic Empire, culminating in the Turkish Ottoman Empire, was the seventh Biblical Beast Empire. The capital of the Ottoman Empire was Istanbul, formely Constantinople, the capital of the Eastern Roman Byzantine Empire. Today, Istanbul sits on the northwestern corner of Turkey. The reason that the location of the capitals of the last beast empire may be important is because as the head of the last beast empire, it is possible that it will receive the ‘fatal head wound’ that will come back and awe the world: ‘One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was astonished and followed the beast’ (Revelation 13:3).
3. DANIEL 9 CONFIRMS TURKEY’S LEADERSHIP ROLE
We also examined Daniel 9, where the Bible says that it would be the ‘people of the prince to come’ that would destroy the Jewish Temple. In other words, the ethnic peoples of whom the future Antichrist would be the leader would destroy the Jewish Temple. We saw that the primary group that carried out this destruction was the tenth legion of the Roman army (Legion X fretensis), which was stationed in Antioch. Antioch was also the area from wich the tenth legion drew most of its recruits. These soldiers were primarily Syrians and Arabs. Today, Antioch is located within the borders of Turkey, on the southeastern corner of Turkey near Syria. As such, this is yet another witness to the notion that the Antichrist would come from the region of modern Turkey.
4. DANIEL 11 CONFIRMS TURKEY’S LEADERSHIP ROLE
Our fourth confirmation was found in Daniel 11, where we saw that the Antichrist was prefigured by Antiochus IV Epiphanies, the ‘King of the North’ or the ruler of the Seleucid Division of the Greek Empire. We may expect to see the Antichrist emerge somewhere from within the region of the former Seleucid Empire. The Seleucid Empire covered a large portion of modern Turkey.
5. ISAIAH AND MICHA CONFIRM AN ASSYRIAN ROLL
We also studied the great emphasis that the prophets Isaiah and Micah placed on the future conflict between the Messiah and the Assyrian, who was a type of Antichrist. These prophecies also points us to the regions of the former Assyrian Empire, which engulfed a large portion of modern Turkey.
6. ZECHARIAH CONFIRMS TURKEY’S LEADERSHIP ROLE
Zechariah 9 clearly lists Yavan/Ionia (Turkey) as the primary player in the Last-Days attack against Israel. Many will have missed the prophecy due to a commonly used yet misleading translation: ‘I will rouse your sons, O Zion, against your sons, Greece (Yavan, Ionia).’ The key aspect of this passage is the reference to the sons of a place called Zion (Jews) fighting against the sons of a place called Yavan (Turks). Yavan was a descendant of Noah who came to live on the western coast of Asia Minor, or modern day Turkey, in the area that came to known as Ionia. See also Joel 3:6. Zecharia 9 is clearly speaking in terms that only can be applicable to the Last-Days, and the return of Jesus the Messiah ‘Jehovah will appear over them.’ After this time, the Messiah will rule Israel and her land will be far greater than it is today:
‘He (the Messiah) will proclaim peace to the nations. His rule will extend from sea to sea and from the River to the ends of the earth. As for you, because of the blood of my covenant with you, I will free your prisoners from the waterless pit. Return to your fortress, O prisoners of hope; even now I announce that I will restore twice as much to you. I will bend Judah as I bend my bow and fill it with Ephraim. I will rouse your sons, O Zion, against your sons, O Greece [Yavan, Ionia], and make you like a warrior’s sword. Then Jehovah will appear over them; His arrow will flash like lightning. The Sovereign Jehovah will sound the trumpet; He will march in the storms of the South, and Jehovah Almighty will shield them. They will destroy and overcome with clingstones … Jehovah their God will save them on that day as the flock of His people. They will sparkle in His land like jewels in a crown. How attractive and beautiful they will be!’ (Zecharia 9).
originally posted by: 23432
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: 23432
Qatar is also a US covert training base for Syrian insurgents that go back and forth through Turkey…
You say Turks are there, too? Go figure…
Liveleak, arming the rebels
Qatar use to be an Ottoman province and as such it does have a difference .
It is now obvious a war of some sort will happen and Syria is the choosen desert to fight it out .
4 ships that has been detained ?
3 of them has been released at the moment .
Ships that are not certified to international maritime standarts will be detained .
If you saw the Russian vessels , you'd understand why this is just Turks enforcing a maritime law .
Of course the Turks were looking the other way untill last week but hey , things changed .
originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: crazyewok
So Turkey should be kicked out of NATO?
Last time I checked, we are at war. Have been for a while now.
Journalist reporting on Isis dies in Turkey in 'suspicious circumstances'
On Friday, Shim told her employers in an interview (below) that the Turkish intelligence agency had threatened and accused her of spying, and that she feared arrest.
Press TV has reported that Turkish intelligence had "accused her of spying probably due to some of the stories she has covered about Turkey’s stance on [Isis] terrorists".
Shim had recently accused the Turkish government of aiding Isis by allowing fighters to cross the border into Syria in order to fight against their common Kurdish enemy.
She had reported for the station from her native Lebanon, as well as Iraq, Ukraine and in Turkey's Taksim Square protests in 2013. She is survived by a husband and two children.
originally posted by: MrSpad
Now if Russia and Turkey call home their Ambassadors, Turkey and Russia cut all trade, They cancel the joint pipelines projects, Russia forces in Syria rush home with no announcement, Russia extends its the one year conscripts that make up most of the military, Russian forces pull out of Ukraine, Moldova, and Georgia, Turkey has a series of meeting with NATO, the Arab League, the GCC, and the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation, public announcements of neutrality suddenly come from Belarus and the Central Asian states, Russian air forces move into positions where they can hit Poland, the UK and Germany airbases, the Russian black sea fleet heads into port, Russia calls out the reserves. Then you can start getting nervous.