Black Pastor Gives His Opinion On Black People! "Black People Are The Most Racist People"

I have had my own experience in my former neighborhood. I was making a left turn and got into the tuning lane as another car with a black girl from NY was coming out of a parking lot on the right, crossing over three lanes.

She got mad and started screaming out the window of the car. What I didn't know was that the car in front of me (also from NY, with a black girl in it) was her friend. They followed me, and when I turned off, they boxed me and trapped me.

They started screaming at me 'didn't know there were TWO of us, did you a^^hole!', and jumped out of their cars, one with a crowbar, and ran toward me, and I couldn't even get my window up quick enough.

Only feet away from getting my head smashed in, and out of NOWHERE, this black guy jumped behind the woman with the crowbar and grabbed her, his wife grabbed the other one, and told me to get out fast. I DID. That family didn't know me at all, and unless they recognized my car as part of the local neighborhood, I saw no reason for them to save ME, some white guy driving some fancy car......

I went back to that house and profusely thanked them that next day.

In that example, I experienced racism and compassion for other races within seconds of each other so I know BOTH do exist in the black community...just like any community.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: BubbaJoe

As I stated earlier in this thread, I live in a largely black neighborhood and have many black people who are important to me.

I've seen white people and black people who can be pretty jaded based on race. It happens.

Honestly, I cannot help but think that if you have truly never been treated poorly by a black person, then you are likely segregating yourself. Geez, I was once called a "white b---h" just for staring off into space in the direction of a black woman who was in a pissy mood at a busy gas station. That's just one of many similar exeriences.

And I have heard jaded white people complain about black people crossing the street too slowly "because they must not have a job."

It really does happen on both sides. We all get pissy with one another. And if you live an integrated life, you are bound to see that we are all jaded and pissy sometimes.

Not segregating by choice, I grew up in a lilly white suburb, and didn't go to school with a black person until I was a sophemore in high school. I will add I grew up with very racist grand parents, my parents not so much, and with me it disappeared. I make comments to myself, and yes jaded and pissy comments, we all do it. Lets just all stop the hate, pissy is one thing, outright hate, is a different story.

originally posted by: lakesidepark
I have had my own experience in my former neighborhood. I was making a left turn and got into the tuning lane as another car with a black girl from NY was coming out of a parking lot on the right, crossing over three lanes.

She got mad and started screaming out the window of the car. What I didn't know was that the car in front of me (also from NY, with a black girl in it) was her friend. They followed me, and when I turned off, they boxed me and trapped me.

They started screaming at me 'didn't know there were TWO of us, did you a^^hole!', and jumped out of their cars, one with a crowbar, and ran toward me, and I couldn't even get my window up quick enough.

Only feet away from getting my head smashed in, and out of NOWHERE, this black guy jumped behind the woman with the crowbar and grabbed her, his wife grabbed the other one, and told me to get out fast. I DID. That family didn't know me at all, and unless they recognized my car as part of the local neighborhood, I saw no reason for them to save ME, some white guy driving some fancy car......

I went back to that house and profusely thanked them that next day.

In that example, I experienced racism and compassion for other races within seconds of each other so I know BOTH do exist in the black community...just like any community.

Understand, I was the only white guy in 20 square blocks, 6'8" black guy stands up and says the nigga is with us. I had a great time with my friends, made some new ones that night, yeah it goes both ways.

a reply to: BubbaJoe
That's why I chose those words, "pissy" and "jaded." Because most of the time that's all it really is, not hate.

There is certainly hate though.. and on both sides in this topic.

My two cents is sure there are racist black people. ..... but no current lynching or enslavement comes from it unlike the KKK

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: BubbaJoe
That's why I chose those words, "pissy" and "jaded." Because most of the time that's all it really is, not hate.

There is certainly hate though.. and on both sides in this topic.

I would whole heartedly agree. The hate has to stop, we are all human beings, we need to start being kind to each other.

originally posted by: balanc3
My two cents is sure there are racist black people. ..... but no current lynching or enslavement comes from it unlike the KKK

None?

I think you are selectively defining lynching. There was a white man pulled from his vehicle by what can only be described as a lynch mob and beaten close to death in front of his wife and children near where I live about a year ago. He was targeted solely for being white.

Being dishonest about the scope of the problem doesn't help.

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: BubbaJoe
That's why I chose those words, "pissy" and "jaded." Because most of the time that's all it really is, not hate.

There is certainly hate though.. and on both sides in this topic.

I would whole heartedly agree. The hate has to stop, we are all human beings, we need to start being kind to each other.

originally posted by: balanc3
My two cents is sure there are racist black people. ..... but no current lynching or enslavement comes from it unlike the KKK

I beg to differ, there are now hundreds of reports of black killings of white people for race, killings of police officers, beatings of old men and women, knockout games in the inner cities, etc.

Lots of race-related violence and murders just this year alone. Ignore it at your peril.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: balanc3
My two cents is sure there are racist black people. ..... but no current lynching or enslavement comes from it unlike the KKK

None?

I think you are selectively defining lynching. There was a white man pulled from his vehicle by what can only be described as a lynch mob and beaten close to death in front of his wife and children near where I live about a year ago. He was targeted solely for being white.

Being dishonest about the scope of the problem doesn't help.

No one should be killed for the color of their skin. Black, white, red, yellow, or purple.

originally posted by: lakesidepark

originally posted by: balanc3
My two cents is sure there are racist black people. ..... but no current lynching or enslavement comes from it unlike the KKK

I beg to differ, there are now hundreds of reports of black killings of white people for race, killings of police officers, beatings of old men and women, knockout games in the inner cities, etc.

Lots of race-related violence and murders just this year alone. Ignore it at your peril.

Yes we are seeing reports of this, but enslavement is usually not part of it, and while death does sometimes occur, usually not referred to as lynching.

Do you have sources for your reports of 100's?

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: lakesidepark

originally posted by: balanc3
My two cents is sure there are racist black people. ..... but no current lynching or enslavement comes from it unlike the KKK

I beg to differ, there are now hundreds of reports of black killings of white people for race, killings of police officers, beatings of old men and women, knockout games in the inner cities, etc.

Lots of race-related violence and murders just this year alone. Ignore it at your peril.

Yes we are seeing reports of this, but enslavement is usually not part of it, and while death does sometimes occur, usually not referred to as lynching.

Executions of white police officers are indeed a form of lynching....that is just splitting hairs.
White death is frequently occurring. Just not as much as blacks are killing each other. but definitely more than you are willing to acknowledge.

Enslavement is a bit harder to pull off with the percentages so that is not really a valid comparison either. But I don't see any whites enslaving blacks these days so that is kind of a moot point.

We are not talking history here, we are discussing current events and the current situation. Therefore use current comparisons, not those dug out of the dark ages of history.

As far as the number of incidents over the last several years, there is substantial proof, and as you don't seem to be aware of any, you should do some simple searches and read the stories...either you are genuinely interested in knowing, in which case you will easily find them...or you don't care, in which case I don't care to find you a bunch of links for you to ignore. It is Saturday night, you know, my researching is done for the weekend, I only provide commentary for your entertainment. You do the work.

Politifact - Obama Indonesian School Records

Obama lived in Indonesia with his mother and stepfather from 1967 to 1971, approximately from the ages of 6 to 10. In 1971, he returned to the United States and graduated from high school in Hawaii.

Indonesia is a Muslim country, and Obama attended a public school there, which taught a small amount of religion. CNN, the Associated Press, the Los Angeles Times and the Chicago Tribune investigated the e-mail claims by visiting the school and interviewing former teachers and students who were there at the same time as Obama. These investigations found a public school where students wore Western clothing and prayer was a small part of the curriculum. The Chicago Tribune reported the school was "so progressive that teachers wore miniskirts and all students were encouraged to celebrate Christmas."

Debunked - Obama Was An Indonesian Citizen

As has been widely published, Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship. Because US Law prevents a US child from renouncing his citizenship (and his parents could not do it for him), Barack Obama could not have become an Indonesian citizen, since this would have created an illegal dual citizenship. This prohibition is stated specifically in Indonesian law. Indonesian Naturalization Law.

If Indonesia had granted Barack Obama Indonesian citizenship, in error, under United States law he would have been a dual citizen. The Supreme Court said that becoming a dual citizen does not remove the natural born status of a US Citizen.

I believe that we call racism is really a special case of primate xenophobia.

If it's not race, it's religion.

If it's not religion, it's nationality.

If it's not nationality, it's sex, or gender identity, or sexual orientation, or ...

It's always something. We are innately fearful/hateful of those "others" not like us.

The measure of our civilization is how well we keep these innate drives from creating inequity in our laws and daily lives.

a reply to: Gryphon66

I don't know if that was directed at my comment containing Obama's school records published by the AP. My point was that his records show he was enrolled with a stated religion of 'Islam.'

Citizenship is another matter.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
I believe that we call racism is really a special case of primate xenophobia.

If it's not race, it's religion.

If it's not religion, it's nationality.

If it's not nationality, it's sex, or gender identity, or sexual orientation, or ...

It's always something. We are innately fearful/hateful of those "others" not like us.

The measure of our civilization is how well we keep these innate drives from creating inequity in our laws and daily lives.

I feel pretty comfortable around people of varied races, nationalities, religions, etc. I do harbor bad feelings for politicians, partisans, and liars though.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
Politifact - Obama Indonesian School Records

Obama lived in Indonesia with his mother and stepfather from 1967 to 1971, approximately from the ages of 6 to 10. In 1971, he returned to the United States and graduated from high school in Hawaii.

Indonesia is a Muslim country, and Obama attended a public school there, which taught a small amount of religion. CNN, the Associated Press, the Los Angeles Times and the Chicago Tribune investigated the e-mail claims by visiting the school and interviewing former teachers and students who were there at the same time as Obama. These investigations found a public school where students wore Western clothing and prayer was a small part of the curriculum. The Chicago Tribune reported the school was "so progressive that teachers wore miniskirts and all students were encouraged to celebrate Christmas."

Debunked - Obama Was An Indonesian Citizen

As has been widely published, Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship. Because US Law prevents a US child from renouncing his citizenship (and his parents could not do it for him), Barack Obama could not have become an Indonesian citizen, since this would have created an illegal dual citizenship. This prohibition is stated specifically in Indonesian law. Indonesian Naturalization Law.

If Indonesia had granted Barack Obama Indonesian citizenship, in error, under United States law he would have been a dual citizen. The Supreme Court said that becoming a dual citizen does not remove the natural born status of a US Citizen.

I can grant you all of the above as factual.

And yet, even with Obama's experience living in a progressive Muslim country, his reaction to the extremist Muslim factions in the Middle East belie this history. His actions AND his inactions have created suffering and horror across the ME, now spreading into Europe.

So he has betrayed not only us, not only the black communities in the U.S., not only Europe, but progressive Muslims around the world as well! What a shocker.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: Gryphon66

I don't know if that was directed at my comment containing Obama's school records published by the AP. My point was that his records show he was enrolled with a stated religion of 'Islam.'

Citizenship is another matter.

Yes, you provided a copy of a form. It does say on that form that his religion was Islam.

I have forms from my school days which say I am White Christian. Turns out, after a bit of 23 and Me, and a decade or so of intellectual evolution, I am not either of those.

The information was provided for anyone interested in the facts of claims made about Mr. Obama; nothing was "directed" at you as I know how to use the "Reply" feature.

a reply to: lakesidepark

You seem to feel that Mr. Obama is responsible for all the world's problems.

That is an irrational belief in my estimation, not to mention a well-worn cliche.

Mr. Obama isn't solely responsible for trouble in the Middle East, nor racial divisions in the US.

We, the human species, are responsible for both.

a reply to: southernplayalistic
Every race on earth is "racist" to varying degrees. But if I had to pick the most racist, it wouldn't be black people.

ETA: @Gryphon. I like the new avi.