Apparent massive triangular object captured over Melbourne - night vision video

@Elementalist:

And for all you know, this guy is thinking "Oh, awesome! I've caught something on tape for once!"
I get the distinct feeling you'd decided this was fake before watching the video. Possibly before reading past the title.
That is not 'digging for answers.'
By all means, though, present your evidence that this is faked beyond "I think so."
And before you strawman me or so forth, I do not currently believe this is an alien spacecraft. I believe it is some form of military drone.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: FamCore

A lot gets tested down that way. It's the perfect area since it has such huge unpopulated areas.

One such huge, unpopulated area is Melbourne, the capital city of Victori-Oh.

originally posted by: Eilasvaleleyn
@Elementalist:

And for all you know, this guy is thinking "Oh, awesome! I've caught something on tape for once!"
I get the distinct feeling you'd decided this was fake before watching the video. Possibly before reading past the title.
That is not 'digging for answers.'
By all means, though, present your evidence that this is faked beyond "I think so."
And before you strawman me or so forth, I do not currently believe this is an alien spacecraft. I believe it is some form of military drone.

Yep.

I think it's more likely a misinterpretation than "fake".

a reply to: draknoir2

The largest issue I run into is why it would appear to fade in and out like that. I cannot think of a (conventional) reason outside of its lights being on a dimmer switch.

Also, are drones even capable of hovering almost perfectly still in a single location?

originally posted by: Eilasvaleleyn
a reply to: draknoir2

The largest issue I run into is why it would appear to fade in and out like that. I cannot think of a (conventional) reason outside of its lights being on a dimmer switch.

Also, are drones even capable of hovering almost perfectly still in a single location?

That's why my initial thought was a camera artifact caused by something on the lens.

Did we ever decide whether the youtuber actually saw the object or just noticed after it was videoed?

a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

You'd be surprised how little the average person looks up. I know of several aircraft that have been flying 30+ years, with a single confirmed sighting of any of them.

I guess I can't believe people are still watching it. The stars and planets do not change it's an overlay of the background!!

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

You'd be surprised how little the average person looks up. I know of several aircraft that have been flying 30+ years, with a single confirmed sighting of any of them.

Every October, thousands of geese fly in formation over Southport. There can be a score of flying Vs amounting to hundreds of birds. Nobody else ever seems to notice them. I'd love to say it's weird, but it's just depressingly normal.

Probably even worse with the mobile phone thing going on too...

People just don't look up.

originally posted by: Kandinsky

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

You'd be surprised how little the average person looks up. I know of several aircraft that have been flying 30+ years, with a single confirmed sighting of any of them.

Every October, thousands of geese fly in formation over Southport. There can be a score of flying Vs amounting to hundreds of birds. Nobody else ever seems to notice them. I'd love to say it's weird, but it's just depressingly normal.

Probably even worse with the mobile phone thing going on too...

People just don't look up.

And do you know why one side of those V formations is always shorter than the other?

To me it's fake.

Hasn't anyone noticed that, in the footage where this thing fades in and out, the stars are not "twinkling" as they normally would in footage such as this? It's an animation. A hoax.

a reply to: Kandinsky

I'm the first person my wife knew that paid attention to what's going overhead. She thought it was hysterical because when we lived under the high speed corridor, I'd hear something go over and would run out to the porch to look.

Then one day she realized she was standing there beside me and punched me. Ha.

originally posted by: draknoir2

originally posted by: Kandinsky

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

You'd be surprised how little the average person looks up. I know of several aircraft that have been flying 30+ years, with a single confirmed sighting of any of them.

Every October, thousands of geese fly in formation over Southport. There can be a score of flying Vs amounting to hundreds of birds. Nobody else ever seems to notice them. I'd love to say it's weird, but it's just depressingly normal.

Probably even worse with the mobile phone thing going on too...

People just don't look up.

And do you know why one side of those V formations is always shorter than the other?

Nope, and I'll stay off the google so you have the pleasure of telling me.

I'm curious

a reply to: draknoir2

The aliens always go goose huntin' round that time of year, and don't like symmetry?

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

That's definitely been a consideration, though looking at it on max quality there appears to be some sort of twinkling or movement. I am not sure if it is caused by an overlaid film grain animation effect or Youtube artifacting, however.

Are you well-acquainted with similar videos and would know how much the stars should twinkle in a time-lapse like this? I'm hoping someone like that will be able to shed extra light. I've looked at a few night vision stargazing videos, but they vary somewhat. It's possible the weather conditions affect the intensity of the star's strobing effects.

That explanation is probably one of the most likely ones, but cannot be confirmed yet.

a reply to: Zaphod58

I'd look up more, if I went outside more. I live in an average Australian country town, though, so there's not much incentive to look up in the first place. I feel like Satellites are a hell of a lot more common than they used to be, though. The number seems to have increased dramatically over the last ten or so years.

originally posted by: Eilasvaleleyn
Are you well-acquainted with similar videos and would know how much the stars should twinkle in a time-lapse like this?

Reasonably well.

Look at these:


Lots more twinkling.

The way ufo's pop in and out of existence reminds me of when someone explained to me what a 2D person would see if something 3D came into frame. I believe what we see is 4 dimensional beings coming into our 3 D world.

a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

The new rage for the last several years are cube sats. They launch four or five small satellites to do the work of one big one. So in a way, you're right, they are.

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

I see. Thank you for providing evidence.

I believe the video was recorded from a Melbourne suburb (highly developed city) whereas the one you've shown seems to be from a New Zealand beach. Would light pollution be a variable?
What about a difference in time-lapse speeds? (Or are they standardized and I am unaware?) I dislike using a word that seems so often used to make things sound vaguely 'science-like', but if the frequency of the star twinkle causes it be predominantly placed on a frame that is "dropped" by Youtube, could that be an explanation?

The recorder seems to have many different cameras, does the individual camera model effect how much things might appear to twinkle?

In the second video, the twinkling appears to me to be about equal with the video in the OP. My eyes may not see the truth, though. Are they playing tricks on me?
To confirm, you are watching everything on the highest quality, correct?

Sorry for being so banal, I'm kind of worried it seems like I'm grasping at straws to defend this person, but I like to be thorough when possible. Especially in cases with at least a small measure of plausibility.

The 'hoax' likelihood is raised, though a disclaimer is that I personally would like to believe that is not the answer.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Interesting. I was not aware of that. So the growth rate of the number of satellites has exploded, the effective workload hasn't increased that dramatically?
I am sad that our planet is slowly accruing more clutter in orbit, however.

a reply to: bally001
I thought it was a whopper mate

zaphs right!

I highly recommend looking up more often.

you never know what you can see!

originally posted by: Kandinsky

originally posted by: draknoir2

originally posted by: Kandinsky

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

You'd be surprised how little the average person looks up. I know of several aircraft that have been flying 30+ years, with a single confirmed sighting of any of them.

Every October, thousands of geese fly in formation over Southport. There can be a score of flying Vs amounting to hundreds of birds. Nobody else ever seems to notice them. I'd love to say it's weird, but it's just depressingly normal.

Probably even worse with the mobile phone thing going on too...

People just don't look up.

And do you know why one side of those V formations is always shorter than the other?

Nope, and I'll stay off the google so you have the pleasure of telling me.

I'm curious

Because there are fewer geese on that side.

originally posted by: draknoir2

originally posted by: Kandinsky

originally posted by: draknoir2

originally posted by: Kandinsky

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

You'd be surprised how little the average person looks up. I know of several aircraft that have been flying 30+ years, with a single confirmed sighting of any of them.

Every October, thousands of geese fly in formation over Southport. There can be a score of flying Vs amounting to hundreds of birds. Nobody else ever seems to notice them. I'd love to say it's weird, but it's just depressingly normal.

Probably even worse with the mobile phone thing going on too...

People just don't look up.

And do you know why one side of those V formations is always shorter than the other?

Nope, and I'll stay off the google so you have the pleasure of telling me.

I'm curious

Because there are fewer geese on that side.

Oh no. I came this close >< to finding a facepalm gif and posting it