WEAPONS CACHE Found Hidden at Swedish Migrant Center

a reply to: schadenfreude

Greece story?

a reply to: Swills

Refugees who've lost everything aren't planning to take over Europe.

No, but they can easily serve as useful idiots. Especially when promised their 72.

There are those willing to die for a better life than wait around and find one amongst the living. Countries who did not take this into account, get what they didn't expect. Its as ignorant not to believe it could happen as it is to expect it to happen. Who exactly do you think those weapons were going to be used against?

originally posted by: eisegesis
a reply to: Swills

Refugees who've lost everything aren't planning to take over Europe.

No, but they can easily serve as useful idiots. Especially when promised their 72.

In Islam, the concept of 72 virgins (houri) refers to an aspect of paradise. According to them they will be rewarded if they fight in the way of Allah.

No bigotry here, but there are those willing to die for a better life than wait around and find one amongst the living. Countries who did not take this into account, get what they didn't expect. Its as ignorant not to believe it could happen as it is to expect it to happen. Who exactly do you think those weapons were going to be used against?

What weapons?

Do you even read.

There were no weapons. The whole thing is a no story.


And there is nowhere in the whole of Qur'an anything about 72 virgins or what not.

a reply to: sHuRuLuNiI didn't advocate the burning and killing of refugees!!!!! I have never anywhere said anything remotely like that so don't bring me into the line of fire of that bullet because you are wrong!

Seeing as you were once a refugee then you can answer this question for me. When you were seeking refuge would you have turned down Countries which offered you that refuge?

What is wrong with me is that I don't believe these are just refugees and economic migrants period but only time will tell on that score, I also don't believe a lot of these people will want to assimilate and integrate within western societies. I see proof of that in the UK every day. There are many who keep themselves separate and there are many who don't class themselves as British and who publically loathe everything western society stands for. I think we are bringing in yet more problems.

I am happy that the UK is taking refugees from the camps and helping with foreign aid to make the living conditions better for the people escaping war and terror. As much as I don't agree with a lot of Conservative policies I do feel they have got it right this time in that the most vulnerable refugees will be the ones still in the camp who haven't got the finances or strength to make the journey over to Europe.

Well spotted there. This to me spells out everything that is wrong. People want the refuge, they want the help, but then really never feel part of their host country, or feel any real connection, so are never going to assimilate or integrate, therefore they will have no loyalty to the Country they are living in and will always side with the country and culture they have come from which is why we have so many hate preachers here in UK who manage to radicalise young people who have been born here, probably because their parents have bought them up to believe the Country and culture they left behind was far superior to the UK. a reply to: TechniXcality

You are completely wrong I never said anything of the sort and I think a moderator could do with looking through that thread and seeing what I actually said. There were people posting those sorts of things but I wasn't one of them. I am really upset that you are putting words out there that I didn't say.a reply to: aorAki

a reply to: anxiouswens

Yes, I have removed my post because I mistook you for misskat (sorry, memory), so my humblest apologies for the slight.

I found that thread after navigating the circuitous depths of the ATS search engine. You didn't say that directly and so I accept I made a mistake.

I didn't "conveniently say" that the thread had been trashed. I questioned whether it had been as my initial search didn't find it...

The thread hasn't been trashed as you conveniently said. I have just found it straightaway on top posts. I made three comments and nowhere in any of these comments did I say something along the lines of I would have burnt down the refugee centres as well and that I supported the right of the people. That just goes to show how people twist words to suit their own agenda. You saw what you wanted to see. I didn't say I agreed with them burning down the refugee centres, nor did I condone what they were doing, I was giving my opinion on why I thought this was happening a completely different thing.

"I find it disgusting that Governments in European Countries and UK aren't listening to the majority of their people. I find it disgusting here in the UK that the Government won't tell British people how many Syrian refugees are already here and where they have been placed. It is these sort of tactics that are making people distrustful and concerned when it comes to immigration, why are the facts being hidden from the general"

"If I was the Swedes rather than burning buildings down I would be going to the UN and seeing whether they think Sweden is acting in the interests of the indegenious people or whether in fact Article 8 of the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indegenious People should be called into question particularly "States shall provide effective mechanisms for prevention of, and redress for... (d) any form of forced assimilation or integration".www.un.org...

I think a few other European Countries should also look at this document from the UN because unfortunately it doesn't appear that the people of these countries do have "mechanisms for prevention of and redress of" as the minute anyone tries to raise any concerns they are called either racist, bigoted or an islamaphobe. So I would say their voices are being completely silenced. The burning of buildings both in Germany and now Sweden is as a direct result of the governments not listening and this is only going to get worse until they open their ears and listen to their people. There will be civil wars in Europe"

"I have been saying for weeks that I can't understand why the Governments of Europe can't see the dangers in letting in hundreds of thousands of unvetted refugees especially as ISIS said this is exactly what they would do. I've just noticed on another thread that someone has dug up that prophecy back in February which is here www.dailymail.co.uk... -Europe-psychological-weapon-bombed.html

This is why Swedes are doing what they are doing, because like the majority of sane people in Europe and UK they can see what is happening in their Country and feel scared and helpless. So if the people of Sweden can see the dangers why can't its leaders? How are the governments of Sweden and other European Countries going to manage if the news article above is true and the SHTF. The time to halt this insanity has gone by, the enemy is now within in my opinion." public?a reply to: TrueBrita reply to: aorAki

a reply to: anxiouswens

You know what though? The refugees are probably getting scared too, as they see people are getting fearful of them. They might be bringing in guns to protect themselves, and their own families, ya know?

Fear + fear. Never a successful combo.

a reply to: anxiouswens

Yes, I found it (see my above post)...

I really like how you call them "the enemy".

Stay clASSy...

originally posted by: sHuRuLuNi

originally posted by: eisegesis
a reply to: Swills

Refugees who've lost everything aren't planning to take over Europe.

No, but they can easily serve as useful idiots. Especially when promised their 72.

In Islam, the concept of 72 virgins (houri) refers to an aspect of paradise. According to them they will be rewarded if they fight in the way of Allah.

No bigotry here, but there are those willing to die for a better life than wait around and find one amongst the living. Countries who did not take this into account, get what they didn't expect. Its as ignorant not to believe it could happen as it is to expect it to happen. Who exactly do you think those weapons were going to be used against?

What weapons?

Do you even read.

There were no weapons. The whole thing is a no story.


And there is nowhere in the whole of Qur'an anything about 72 virgins or what not.

No need to be rude. I had only made it to page 2 before addressing Swills's post. While typing, superstars like yourself must have found a link that proves this story to be 100% false.

''The virgins are calling you,'' Mohamed Atta wrote reassuringly to his fellow hijackers just before 9/11.

All Muslim extremists MUST know that there is no such thing, eh? A plate of grapes would not motivate anybody to blow themselves in half so false interpretations of their own book are used against them. Start with the first complete paragraph on page 105 and read until Atta's quote ends.

Link

You will then understand how many Muslim extremists are just following orders when receiving them from someone they believe is correctly interpreting the Qur'an. Ignorance can be taken advantage, especially when it comes to religion. Take a look around.

originally posted by: eisegesis

Ignorance can be taken advantage, especially when it comes to religion. Take a look around.

I know that. What irks me the most is when my RELIGION is accused of something based on the ACTIONS of INDIVIDUALS.

The motto of this Forum is "Deny ignorance", so we should be doing this, thus I do not really care what Atta said or did not say ... I care however when people here try to tell ME what my holy book says, and they read maybe ONE translation at that, without even the slightest comparison or study of the original language.

a reply to: sHuRuLuNi

Damn. I know how you feel. As a Christian, people do it to me all the time. I always find it strange that the Atheists are the ones who always lay claim to knowing EVERYTHING about Christianity. grrrr.

(You handle it better than me, though. I typically blow a fuse.)

originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: schadenfreude

"not a question of a small hunting guns, but several real firearms according to respondents."

I'd like to know what caliber/model weapons were found

Probably RPG-7's,AK's,Tokarev pistols(most used handgun in middle east),PPS43 or PPSH41,and probably some IED's.
Or if they are ISIS M4's,M16's,Beretta M9 or 92FS,AT4's,m67 grenades,and C4 or Semtex.

a reply to: VashTheStampede

You forgot the Nuclear Bomb left by russians during the cold war after a plane went missing in Chechnya

a reply to: anxiouswens

The oligarchs European spring.

originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: anxiouswens

You know what though? The refugees are probably getting scared too, as they see people are getting fearful of them. They might be bringing in guns to protect themselves, and their own families, ya know?

Fear + fear. Never a successful combo.

Doesn't make sense people who were unwilling to fight in their own country come to another country and get weapons to protect themselves. That really doesn't make much sense does it if that was the case they would have stayed armed themselves and fought for their country.

If they Indeed are arming themselves Europeans have every right to be concerned even a small number of them could cause major problems. And I still keep seeing mostly males you leave the country leaving women and children behind?? It's a very odd situation.

This is pretty alarming if it turns out to be true. Sad to hear if warnings are coming to fruition and with that will cause native local populations to be more on guard and/or even acting out out.

Could it be faked or even another situation, only more info and time will tell. Such as the weapons being planted there as opposed to them being brought there. However,it seems possible they could have been brought in by immigrants unless they were searched thoroughly-sure some were- but that could not be likely for all of them on their journey, or at least until they checked in.

now you are just trying to come up with something to pin on me because you were wrong. I'm obviously not saying all the hundreds of thousands of people coming in are enemies. I'm talking from the viewpoint of this story and the fact that I think the immigrants will have been infiltrated by jihadists who wish Europe and UK harm!!a reply to: aorAki