It's time to wake up!

Even the non conceptual universe is a shell around the Secret. The non conceptual is a way station. First you experience reality without concepts, which is enlightenment. And when that happens, when the non conceptual nature of reality is experienced, you sacrifice that, you go beyond that, which is not actually a going anywhere. It is simply annihilating whatever remains.

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originally posted by: Andy1144
So how am I supposed to reply to that? You don't deal with my points specifically but you drift off.

This is really funny because last night I remembered a discussion where I was telling a christian that I know what it feels like to be "filled with the spirit".

She said that if that was true I would not be an atheist.

It reminded me of this thread.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

What is this supposed to do?

a reply to: daskakik

And that reminds me that you didn't understand anything we've been saying.

a reply to: Andy1144

And you sound just like that christian.

a reply to: daskakik

Said the jew.

originally posted by: Andy1144
Said the jew.

I guess you missed the point, yet again.

a reply to: daskakik

The irony..

a reply to: Andy1144

But I have not missed your point I disagree with it. Meanwhile you didn't even see that which was in plain text.

a reply to: daskakik

I don't know if you really understand my point. That's why I ask you to verify it. You won't.

originally posted by: Andy1144
I don't know if you really understand my point. That's why I ask you to verify it. You won't.

You don't need to know for me to actually understand it.

Who made you the bouncer at the DE Club?

a reply to: daskakik

You don't need to know for me to actually understand it.

I do for me. I need to know so when you say what you say, I need to know if it means what I think it means.

Who made you the bouncer at the DE Club?

The head of the DE corp.

originally posted by: Andy1144
I do for me. I need to know so when you say what you say, I need to know if it means what I think it means.

That doesn't change the reality that I know full well what you are talking about and have experienced it.

a reply to: daskakik

Ok, but that misses the point. You still haven't verified for me you know what I am talking about. And I told you why me knowing is important.

originally posted by: Andy1144
Ok, but that misses the point. You still haven't verified for me you know what I am talking about. And I told you why me knowing is important.

Well it seems thast me not bothering to verify is just happening.

a reply to: daskakik

Ok, but don't ignore my point though.

a reply to: Andy1144

Your point is that unless I verify with you I can't say I have experinced something?

a reply to: daskakik

You can say you've experiencing something, but in order for me to know what is was, you have to tell me.

originally posted by: Andy1144
You can say you've experiencing something, but in order for me to know what is was, you have to tell me.

I don't care if you know or not. That doesn't change the experience.

a reply to: daskakik

Ofcourse it doesn't. But that's not the point. My point is tell me what you've experienced.