Christianity and Islam Unite

a reply to: Metallicus

a quick google seach shows tons of sites that indicate many passages where the word love and derivatives Are used.

What did you base yourself on to say this?

originally posted by: Metallicus
The word 'love' appears more than 300 times in the Bible while the Koran doesn't mention the word love even once. This is a fundamental difference in those two religions which makes them incompatible.

There are more differences, yet similarities & It makes you wonder how Ignorant some Muslims are (even like christians) they are about Their Own Religion and beliefs.

In the Kuran, Jesus is named 25 times, and Muhammad ONLY 4 times...hmmmm. And the ONLY woman named in the Koran is Mariam "Mother of Jesus", NO Other woman...Jesus performed miracles, Muhammad did NOT, Jesus came back to life, Muhammad did NOT, Koran calls "its" followers slaves....Bible we are called children and parents love their children..... Here is a fun 15min. video to watch with more information --> Muslims Convert to Christ

In short, it does bash the Muslim religion a little that even the Koran tells it's followers to read a bible for some answers "it", "itself" cannot give.

I think the world would be better off without religion and focus on just being a good person. Loving.

Regards,

SK

a reply to: Georg90

Together, these two religions could defeat and destory the profligacy, heresy, and deviancy in the world today. Together they can utterly put and end to the wayward heathens in power, who kill babies and sanction homo marriages and deviancy.
...We are brothers!

At least you're willing to come out and actually SAY what you ultimately want, instead all the pretend love and peace. I actually find that refreshing for a change. Now. Death to the heathens!!! Oh wait...

Considering Islam pretty much denies Christianity's central reason to exist, I think you would have better luck aligning Islam and Judiasm honestly. At least then, neither or you have to worry about all that pesky Jesus's divinity issue.

Fyi Islam and Christianity and Judaism are the same just semantic difference mostly.

If people knew anything they would realize the similarities to the religions but people are ignorant mostly.


The great esoteric European masters, Templers, Rosicrucian’s, high level Masons and esoteric mystical Christians ALL learned from the Muslim brothers, mostly Sufis.

Read the great works of Idreis Shah and learn


www.amazon.com...

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put your preconceived notions away and you will be surprised at the true unity of faiths on the esoteric level

ALL true esoteric Christians went to the east to get the REAL truth

The Muslim mystics, SUFIS, didn't brag or claim superiority they just were glad to teach the Europeans who on the most part became better students to the masters than the Muslims themselves.

that's because when people become sectarian they become ignorant when they are open they become wise

originally posted by: Georg90
Together, these two religions could defeat and destory the profligacy, heresy, and deviancy in the world today.

Buddhism would do that if we could just get rid of the Abrahmic religions altogether.

If, If, If ....

All these ifs, and the thing I don't like is that all of them somehow incorporate "getting rid of" some other group or groups. Lovely thread we've got here.

a reply to: Georg90

What do you suggest we do to the homo deviants and baby killers once we unite?



As a muslim, thats the last type of person I'd choose to unite with to be honest...
Sounds very dystopian for others.

a reply to: Georg90

Well,... according to the Islamic eschatology of certain ahadith, Jesus will personally rebuke the Christians and bring them into the fold of Islam, thus, uniting the two religions;

Narrated by Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until the Son of Mary (Jesus) descends among you as a just ruler, he will break the cross, kill the pigs, and abolish the Jizya tax. Money will be in abundance so that nobody will accept it."




Personally, I'd rather see mankind unite beyond religion. Peace, Love, One.

a reply to: Georg90
The Sunni and Shia Muslims can't even unite with each other, nor can the various sects of Christianity.

originally posted by: Blue Shift
Buddhism would do that if we could just get rid of the Abrahmic religions altogether.

Maybe, but even Buddhists don't believe in the one true religion.

a reply to: Georg90

both believe in Jesus and the Virgin Birth

you lack comprehension man. Islam does not recognize Jesus as God's son, which is the foundation of christian faith. That thing can never be reconciled. Islam does not "believe" in Jesus...it considers him a prophet...which is a far cry from man god.

You understand that this is not debatable in christianity.

a reply to: Arbitrageur

Maybe, but even Buddhists don't believe in the one true religion.

because...Buddhism is not a religion as such...it's a personal journey which leans on no Gods...but oneself. Human self.

a reply to: MarioOnTheFly

Aren't we all "sons of God"? I mean he supposedly created us, just as he supposedly created Jesus and Satan. If he's the only creator -- then all he creates are his offspring? I hear terms thrown in Christian circles such as "children of the Lord" and whatnot all the time.

There is hope. Something called Integral Spirituality is a true example of holistic spirituality that exists in the world right now.

Mostly led by Ken Wilber, “the Einstein of consciousness” this movement is about garnering what any individual needs for their spiritual growth at any time and place in their life.

They may become a Buddhist monk, then a Hindu student and end up a Christian mystic or nothing at all...a philosopher mystic or seeker.

Understand though the human problem is much deeper than external faiths.

It is a problem of the matrix and the inner faculties that have been corrupted

Religion supposed to be a tool to use to end that inner corruption but it has become too corrupt itself

...the patient has corrupted the medicine!

Therefore the intelligent seeker looks for the best in ALL religions to utilize methodologies within them to develop beyond the matrix corruption to true enlightenment.

The Prophet Muhammad said:

"Seek knowledge though it be in China"

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: MarioOnTheFly

Aren't we all "sons of God"? I mean he supposedly created us, just as he supposedly created Jesus and Satan. If he's the only creator -- then all he creates are his offspring? I hear terms thrown in Christian circles such as "children of the Lord" and whatnot all the time.

come on man...you know damn well what it's about. To be christian...it means to recognize Jesus as God only begotten son. Through belief in him as a deity...you are redeemed into Gods kingdom. End of story.

What you speak off does not address Jesus...man god.

That's the story anyway. To me both religions are equally ridiculous...I'm just stating what they both say.

Man god does not reconcile with prophet. Actually...it would be an "insult" to a christian and certainly not something they could part with.

This will never come to pass...

Jesus is God as man, he did not come to prepare the way for Islam...
instead Islam arose to detract from his truth...

The lie is great...

The devil knew the word of God and just how to twist it to confuse and confound and move masses to wrath...
Is it so hard to believe the whole thing was set in motion by a deceiver?
claiming to be an angel of the Lord but was actually the lie himself...
There is no need for Islam to have ever arisen seeing as Jesus Christ God made man walked the earth and was victorious as he died for the sins of all mankind paying our debt in full...

No other reason that is but to rob you of that truth...

The interesting thing about Integral Spirituality is that that is the religion of most of the founders of all of our religions.


The founders if you study their histories weren’t in allegiance to any one particular faith


They chose to practice a private faith and through that reached enlightenment.


Then they offered their experience as a guideline to others.

I am of the opinion that originally NONE of the founders wanted these dense, authoritative, faiths.

It was the CLERICS of those faiths that began to organize them in these monstrous organizations of compulsion and psychological tyranny.

Certainly Jesus didn’t leave any priesthood

Also Muhammad actually made the founding of any priesthood in Islam ILLEGAL!

That’s right, these Imams have zilch AUTHORITY!

I rather do away with both.

dos pajaro, de un tiro.

a reply to: Georg90

Holy crap, what a hellish world that would be. The biggest force preventing Shariah law and Christian dominionism is the fact they are incompatible and butt heads.

Put them together and we'll be stoning children in the streets for arguing with their parents and dashing babies against rocks to show glory to "god".

A union between the two would be like a worst-case scenario for Earth.

You are cursed if you say Jesus is God's Son

carm.org...

Jesus is no more than a messenger of Allah

Deny Jesus' Crucifixion

these are things in direct contradiction to christian belief. Without Jesus being crucified...there is no salvation for man kind. Without him being Son of God...there is no Christianity.

By accepting Islam..you directly deny Christian faith. These things can never be reconciled.