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posted on Oct, 17 2015 @ 02:43 PM
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The post WW2 stigma in Europe against aggression of any kind has left the doors wide open for the current Islamic invasion. This is not immigration because there is definitely an agenda behind it. Someone had to pass unpopular laws about welfare for new arrivals as well as set unbelievably high quotas for the numbers let in.

The last 500 years has seen more than 500 battles between Christian Europeans and Islamic warriors seeking to expand the Caliphate. The Crusades were not acts of aggression but appeals to the whole of Europe to push back the Muslim invaders.

Has Islamic ideology or doctrine changed in the last 500 years?
The biggest change is Europeans abandoning the church and that was the invitation they were looking for.



posted on Oct, 17 2015 @ 02:44 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: mikkelno

It's illegal to hire illegals in the U.S.

Unless they use fake documentation. An employer usually doesn't suffer if they didn't knowingly hire an illegal. The question is, how many illegal use fake social security cards and so fake I-9 forms?

Based on my limited research, at least some of the illegals do use false documentation. This also means they usually pay MORE taxes.

BECAUSE some use false documentation, they're technically documented. The technical term for illegals is "undocumented immigrants".

There're many myths about illegals, here:
rationalwiki.org - Myths and facts about immigration to the United States...

Also some states allow undocumented immigrants to have a drivers license and/or make it easier for them to become documented.

The current estimated population of undocumented immigrants in the US is about 11.5 million. ~60% of them are Mexicans.
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posted on Oct, 17 2015 @ 02:44 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Sure, I would expect nothing else. But that is still a burden on the economy just like what's happening in Sweden. Social democracy, capitalism, huggabuggaism or not.

I already gave my opinion on that.



posted on Oct, 17 2015 @ 02:57 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Hyperia
a reply to: xuenchen

Im a swede, i gave you science facts.,


"Science" from a myth?



What are you suggesting? That Sweden will kill Citizens to make room for immigrants?





Demographics, best tool for anyone



posted on Oct, 17 2015 @ 03:29 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Every nation on the planet is collapsing. Left/Right makes no difference.

Private Central banks issuing a debt and usury based currency is the only reason this is happening on a global scale.
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posted on Oct, 17 2015 @ 03:34 PM
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originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
We're being played, that's all.

All part of the NWO agenda, multi culture societies will be encouraged to accept certain aspects of each other's cultures until we can't fathom what we actually stand for or believe in anymore, then.....


Or due to all the mayhem that will ensue the governments will be forced to clamp down on all personal freedoms and snoop into everything we do.. Oops kinda already do.. But hey it can get worse, No ?



posted on Oct, 17 2015 @ 06:11 PM
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Some people can't be helped.They have no morals or dignity.These savages will walk all over the good willed and kind and be proud of it.Such a shame.



posted on Oct, 17 2015 @ 06:38 PM
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edit on 17-10-2015 by CallYourBluff because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 17 2015 @ 06:42 PM
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a reply to: CallYourBluff

Rofl! A comedian and his puppet!!

Dont worry about us, 85 percent are saying dont worry about our immigration policies.
Dont worry about us, 70 percent are saying dont worry about our NATO policies

Dont worry about us.. We dont need any outside help, we never have, and we never will.. If a problem comes, we Swedes sort it out, just like we always done..



posted on Oct, 17 2015 @ 06:51 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
Looks like another big government failure is looming.

This one is Sweden of all places.

Even the Prime Minister said Sweden is in a state of crisis.

And opinions say the Swedes will become a minority in a few years.

Apparently they can't seem to solve the massive influx of immigrants.

I wonder what the "solution" will end up being?

How will "Democratic Socialism" mitigate the problems?


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If the wave of migrants keeps coming, in 10-15 years, Swedes will be a minority in their own country. That there is, in fact, an exchange of populations going on, should be clear in any sober assessment.

The final consequence of... Sweden's immigration policy is that the economy will collapse -- because who is going to pay for it all? And economic breakdowns, once they happen, always happen very fast." -- Lars Hedegaard.

In the last two weeks, more than 1,000 "unaccompanied refugee children" have arrived from Germany via ferry; more than half of them have now vanished and are listed as missing.

For the last few weeks, the central train station in Sweden's third largest city, Malmö, has been overrun with migrants; the volunteers that for the first few days showed up with food, water and clothes now seem to have lost interest.

It will not be long until the Swedes realize that the state will not look after them. The country that just 20 years ago was considered one of the safest and most affluent in the world, is now in danger of becoming a failed state.





And just think this is the kind of Government Bernie Saunders wants to implement here in the US. I even heard him say, "look at Sweden and how socialism is working there" and that was just four days ago. so Bernie don't know nuttin'
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posted on Oct, 17 2015 @ 06:53 PM
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originally posted by: Hyperia
a reply to: CallYourBluff

Rofl! A comedian and his puppet!!

Dont worry about us, 85 percent are saying dont worry about our immigration policies.
Dont worry about us, 70 percent are saying dont worry about our NATO policies

Dont worry about us.. We dont need any outside help, we never have, and we never will.. If a problem comes, we Swedes sort it out, just like we always done..


I think you may have misunderstood my post.



posted on Oct, 17 2015 @ 07:27 PM
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a reply to: CallYourBluff

I understood it perfectly, what 80% of the Swedes are saying on the topic, mind your own business- we never do anything without contemplation.. Swedes in the majority, knows probably more about the world than most countries knows about themselves.. No abrahamic religions, we always have a tolerance on free religion.. Why?
Swedes are friendly and very, very reserved.. How come?
Take a guess? If people like you come into this society, do you think the color of your skin matters? It doesnt.. If you come here ranting your ideals, you will be treated xenophobic..
This is not based on ideals, its based on a homogeneous ideals, primate instinct.. Our culture is nature and paganism, there is the difference.

Dont worry about us, it will look the same like its done since the neolithic age 6000BC.



posted on Oct, 17 2015 @ 08:08 PM
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originally posted by: Unity_99
a reply to: intrptr

Who should move, the refugees or the owners of the land since ancient times? Hmm.....

They need to stop the influx, block the borders, evict all who don't abandon sharia and commit crimes, throw garbage around, beat up kids at school, rape, yell, keep citizens under house arrest afraid of venturing out at night and acting normally, as they would without this influx.

I will add this too, due to statistics of even moderate immigrants having many children, that needs to be curbed through surgery, a one child policy except for any existing families. Because being "safe" is a gift not a doormat to doom ones culture.

And I want to apologize to the one who gave me the star if they gave it before I added this last bit, but just don't like adding too many posts, so do understand it may only be a partial agreement.

And they need to do this fast, and they also need to list all those traitors in political realms and bring charges against them, take everything they own and have it awarded their victims, because examples have to be set as to corruption and how you deal with it.


I have to say...some of the stuff you talk about is quite "out there" with all due respect. But this...This is on point! Bang on point.



posted on Oct, 17 2015 @ 08:12 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

Actually he said 'look at Denmark".



posted on Oct, 17 2015 @ 11:20 PM
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So sure it's due to the a fail in socialism? If so Sweden as said in the past, is no good as an example of it's positives. Any of the systems will be a failure if not from inception(Communism) or become that due to being corrupt(Crony Capitalism).



posted on Oct, 18 2015 @ 12:43 AM
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originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: xuenchen

How it happened I do not know as the Swedes used to be the best educated in europe so they must have not really believed how bad it was going to be.


The education system is the same, it's just not good enough... Manufacturing robots that can't think critically and accepting everything they are being told as truth... Sort of like a religion by itself!



posted on Oct, 18 2015 @ 01:06 AM
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originally posted by: Hyperia
a reply to: CallYourBluff

I understood it perfectly, what 80% of the Swedes are saying on the topic, mind your own business- we never do anything without contemplation.. Swedes in the majority, knows probably more about the world than most countries knows about themselves.. No abrahamic religions, we always have a tolerance on free religion.. Why?
Swedes are friendly and very, very reserved.. How come?
Take a guess? If people like you come into this society, do you think the color of your skin matters? It doesnt.. If you come here ranting your ideals, you will be treated xenophobic..
This is not based on ideals, its based on a homogeneous ideals, primate instinct.. Our culture is nature and paganism, there is the difference.

Dont worry about us, it will look the same like its done since the neolithic age 6000BC.



Ahem let me sum Sweden up in in one word. NAIVE. OH how great to be neutral! SO do realize that what you stated Most swedes are just makes them more of a target right? Their society will not adapt to swedish society. If your government keeps it up swedes will dissapear just like others in the past.



posted on Oct, 18 2015 @ 04:00 AM
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a reply to: Isurrender73

I agree 100% with you on your point about Private Central Banks - without this layer in banking debt levels would be considerably lower however, they have served themselves too well for too long and now their nasty, greedy system is collapsing beneath them.

Something I suspect and (I give the example of my point from the UK) is that the Bank of England which seems to dictate to our government is not a governmental institution. Now all the time we all thought it was, t people were happy about its role. However, discovering its a private institution making phenomenal profit for certain ghastly families who control the gold and money markets is quite another thing.

I hope we will have a call for the end of these dreadful bankers and their banks. What does need shouting from the rooftops is that where countries did not have these banks, these countries have been basically destroyed. I will leave you to see which ones they are, if you don't already know.



posted on Oct, 18 2015 @ 04:08 AM
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a reply to: Shiloh7

The rothschilds also had one of the US Presidents assassinated because he created there own paper money, once they had there own guy in place they then moved into the US banking and basically took the states over.
I absolutely agree the bank of England should be state owned.
How fast though would it be before the Rothschild bankrolled Tory's sold it back off.

Have any of you ever noticed how if you type the word Rothschild you usually get a port scan attack within a few moment's?.

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posted on Oct, 18 2015 @ 04:22 AM
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a reply to: FlySolo

The UK is trying to stem this mass breeding by capping benefits. We also don't build houses for huge families or 4 wives and although I saw an article about some dink having arrived here with 4 wives in tow and numerous kids, like he's some kind of stud, in fairness he doesn't seem to be the majority.

I suspect its part of some cultures way. What I couldn't believe until it was pointed out to me was that people living in camps with no prospects except charity handouts were breeding kids no problems whatsoever. Do these cultures think for themselves or take any responsibility for the welfare of their children? Being seen to cuddle a little child in front of a camera does not make you a good parent.

I suspect Sweden is learning that many in low paid jobs think its their right to live in a well ordered country and grab benefits to keep their families from other people. Further there is a lesson to be learned in exactly what it costs overall to keep immigrant families and the facilities they tap into free of charge.

The whole situation is a nonsense though, simply because instead of giving passports to these people work permits only should be offered. That way at least in the West we might manage to keep our countries from further debt accruing through reasons unforeseen before this last decade's mass influx.

I don't know about the Swedish health institutes situation, but In the UK Cameron told us immigrants don't use our health system they only work in it. Ask any one working in it and they will tell you the truth that Oinky lied to the British public and many refugees are all bringing with them medical diseases and problems that will only add to the burden of their upkeep, far outweighing, unless they are highly skilled people, any money they contribute to our society.

It is also about numbers and voting - again political thinking but still a tenet of Islam.




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