Sweden Close to Collapse

Yea for mOre propaganda by mr X, so do we have a timeline for swedens epic colossal socialistic commie failure, or just your typical hardy har har, commies are evil.

The nordic countries where forced by christians and protestants to change there evil pagan ways, and they failed to destroy there cultures.

So know we are suposed to believe that sweden will fall under socialism and islam, yea right.

I love how all you have to do is acknowledge what is happening all over the world right now to be branded as brainwashed by the msm. And this by people who fit the description of brainwashed far better than any they accuse.

If you don't see what is happening, and you don't trust all the various sources, and you don't trust the first hand accounts, and you don't trust your own eyes, then I think brainwashing is something you are very familiar with, just not aware of.

a reply to: mikkelno

Not the same, in Europe (at least in many w-Europe country's) they get money (like 1000 euro's month), housing and more.

So in my country (Holland) you get this outrage by many because young adults over here who where born here trying to find housing they can afford are on a waiting list for years and years yet these people get some special treatment (above the people born here) and get housing and money as fast as possible! wtf...

So now wilders gets votes like crazy, it's looking his party will be the biggest with next elections. Not that I like Wilders personally that much

originally posted by: mikkelno
a reply to: xuenchen
But tell me again, is the influx of "cheap labour" not worsening the economy for the american citizen who lost his job to someone who earns much, much less than he does? Does that not influence the US' economy on the grand scale when 11 million illegal immigrants takes up jobs from the americans who has to earn the minimum wage? Is that not also a destruction of a country's economy just like it was stated in the article about Sweden? Or am I missing something here?

You are diverting from the problems in Sweden.

Nice try. Fail.

What *ARE* the Democratic Socialist solutions going to be?

a reply to: Pluginn

Handouts or not, both countries still have an economic burden caused by immigration. In one, the government in directly involved in the economical problem, the other indirectly.
Granted, it's two completely different systems, but the all in all it's about money, a problem both countries are having

a reply to: xuenchen

I am not diverting anything. I just challenged your opinion on how exactly this problem was caused by social democracy as it is clear that both a social democratic country like Sweden, and a capitalist country like the US, are pressured economically by immigration.
As for the SWEDISH solution to this problem, I wouldn't know. Maybe a some point the people as well as the government will make tougher immigration laws, just as we did here in Denmark.

I think this is all being spun. There's usually an agenda behind every article. Every person on Earth is flawed this way.

I think it will be ok. These countries will just have to work a little harder. In the process they're becoming more multi-cultural.

Everytime I hear about an immigration story I think back to my grandparents. They were all immigrants, mostly. This knowledge humbles me and makes me realize today's immigrants are like them. They just want a life. They will work hard. We shouldn't just judge someone because they're poor or young or low skill. All peoples started small.

Immigration isn't always friendly, though. The creation of the United States of America owes itself in part to our disrespect and abuse of the native americans. We were technologically superior with more knowledge of science, coming from a relatively developed nation to essentially colonize and spread the gospel of Jesus. The native americans were given rotten deals with no intention of good ones and swept aside.

What's going on in europe isn't like what happened to the north american indians. But I just wanted to bring up how immigration can vary.

a reply to: xuenchen

You really do have some sort of Vendetta against Sweden dont you?

Gatestone institute is a biased rightwing agenda source and credibility is,how do you say.. biased..

Im a Swede, am i worried, no, do i think we would collapse? No.

We have had hordes of immigrants running cross our borders since the 1930s did we collapse`? No, did we collapse during WW1 or WW2, no.

This isnt about collapse, its about pure racism in keeping a homogenous society.

With a 5,5 percent demographics on muslim population, and they sure know how to make kids..
And with an overall 10 percent immigrants in the society which are culturally bonded to another culture..

A Swede for these people is just about Color and eye color..

Do you wanna know how a Society collapses?? With a birthrate at 0,9 you go extinct, thats mathematics in the real world..

Do you wanna know how Swedes did before?
Ättestupan

Now its time you get your noses out of my nation

a reply to: xuenchen

Im a swede, i gave you science facts.,

a reply to: crazyewok

Sweden is an awesome example of how certain socialistic program work great for its people, hes just angry is propaganda as no base in reality.

a reply to: mikkelno

Well in the US they do the low payed jobs if I'm right (cheap labor), so maybe it's in the US even helpful (at least for company's who wants to make more money!?).

Illegal people don't get money from the government in the US or free housing/medical care right?

Of course those immigrants later on in Europe may find jobs and have a meaningful contribution though.

I myself if I was face in face with a family with kids (for example) fleeing Syria I couldn't refuse but yea allot of people come here for other reasons... and my country has enough people/problems already imo.

originally posted by: Hyperia
Gatestone institute is a biased rightwing agenda source and credibility is,how do you say.. biased..

Thats how Xe rolls you will learn.
Biased sources are what you will come to expect.

He has a thing you see about Sweden. He is just wishing deeply in his American heart Sweden would fail into a Somalia like state as for some weird reason its existence seems to bug him

originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
a reply to: crazyewok

Sweden is an awesome example of how certain socialistic program work great for its people, hes just angry is propaganda as no base in reality.

To be fair it would never work on the scale of the USA.

But even a "small" country's success does seem to bug him.

Maybe Jealousy he was born in the wrong county?

a reply to: Pluginn

The illegals aren't getting any federal help, I grant you that.
But what happens if a business that employs 30 people finds out that it can hire 30 illegals for a much lower cost that what it's currently paying? The 30 americans get laid off.
That means that, atleast for a time, 30 americans wont have any income, they wont pay the same amount of taxes either and they would need help from the government. How does that help people get more money? It helps the business owner get more money but 30 people lost their wages.

But otherwise I agree with you. It's all about being helpfull and I fully support that. I am just not smart enough to know how it should be done

So.....600 get a shelter till February, then what?
Am totally NOT an expert on Swedish Politics, but culturally I think they have bitten off more tan they can chew. Being Not-Swedish it was my understanding to live there you had to take the language courses and assimilate into Swedish society. Even then living there was difficult. Despite their best intentions in reality, an outsider is an outsider. Heck even the Sami aren't treated particularity well.....
Exactly HOW did Sweden think this was going to work again? I "get" that the ideal is everyone is equal, but in practice that wasn't the case much less with the immigration flood overwhelming them.



More than 600 asylum seekers are set to move into the world's most northerly ski resort as Sweden struggles to find enough temporary accommodation for record numbers of new arrivals.

Riksgränsen, which sits 200 kilometres above the Arctic Circle close to Sweden's border with Norway, is set to welcome the refugees following a deal between the resort's owner and the Swedish Migration Agency, Migrationsverket.

"As everyone knows, there is a refugee crisis in the world. Now asylum seekers are arriving in Sweden and Migrationsverket has a major urgent need to find temporary housing to accommodate all those who need help. We at Lapland Resorts AB are very pleased to be able to help," Sven Kuldkepp, CEO of Lapland Resorts, told Swedish newspaper Norrbottenskuriren via email on Wednesday.

"Why leave it empty and cold when it can be quite full and warm," he added in a separate comment.

Kuldepp explained that the refugees would be allowed to stay in Riksgränsen until February 2016, when the main tourist ski season would get under way.
www.thelocal.se...

a reply to: mikkelno

It's illegal to hire illegals in the U.S.

a reply to: xuenchen

Stealing is illegal as well but people still do it.

originally posted by: Hyperia
a reply to: xuenchen

Im a swede, i gave you science facts.,

"Science" from a myth?



What are you suggesting? That Sweden will kill Citizens to make room for immigrants?

originally posted by: mikkelno
a reply to: xuenchen

Stealing is illegal as well but people still do it.

And they get prosecuted when caught.

Now, what will Sweden do?