BREAKING : Vladimir Putin says Russia will fight for the right of Palestinians to their own state

Good luck with that. Putin has now decided Russia will solve all the ME problems since the US was unable to. The Palestinian-Israeli situation hasn't been able to be resolved through violence or peaceful negotiations. If he decides peace won't work and lends a hand to the Palestinians through force, Israel will take the whole ME down with them. Mutually assured destruction. I'm sure Vlad is familiar with that term considering he wants another Cold War.

originally posted by: OptimisticCynic
If this information is accurate and there is escalation.......

Welcome to WW3

Gog and Magog huh?

Gog and Magog come after the 1000 year reign of Christ. Unless they deleted it from our history books I'm certain we have never had 1000 years of global peace under one religious ideology.

originally posted by: stumason

originally posted by: OptimisticCynic
The BRIC is trying to destroy the US economy, we all know that, they have basically said as much

No, they haven't and they aren't, seeing as they are all dependent on a functioning US (and Western) economy for their own.

Besides that, this whole myth the the BRIC's are some sort of steadfast alliance and all pulling in the same direction is nonsense - they aren't and disagree on as much as they agree.

Really?

Zerohedge

Glazyev's set of countermeasures specifically targets the core strength of the US war machine, i.e. the Fed's printing press. Putin's advisor proposes the creation of a "broad anti-dollar alliance" of countries willing and able to drop the dollar from their international trade. Members of the alliance would also refrain from keeping the currency reserves in dollar-denominated instruments. Glazyev advocates treating positions in dollar-denominated instruments like holdings of junk securities and believes that regulators should require full collateralization of such holdings. An anti-dollar coalition would be the first step for the creation of an anti-war coalition that can help stop the US' aggression.

Pravda

"The Chinese and Russians are working together against the Americans, and there are many countries that would be happy to join them in dethroning the U.S. dollar as the world's reserve currency. This historic gas deal between Russia and China is very bad news for the petrodollar," Marin Katusa wrote for Forbes last May.
Another woe is an alternative development bank announced by BRICS, the governments of Brazil, Russia, India and China.

You were saying?

originally posted by: Isurrender73

originally posted by: OptimisticCynic
If this information is accurate and there is escalation.......

Welcome to WW3

Gog and Magog huh?

Gog and Magog come after the 1000 year reign of Christ. Unless they deleted it from our history books I'm certain we have never had 1000 years of global peace under one religious ideology.

Ummmm no , Gog and Magog are the Tribulation events the "Gog and Magog" is basically the battle of Armageddon, the 1000 yrs comes after that as per the story of revelation

The Battle of Gog and Magog ushers in the 2nd coming then theres 1000 yrs of peace.

are You sure he wants another Cold War?
maybe Russia( Putin is just head of something bigger) having enough of US (west) bullcrap...
for sure there are forces screaming for peace and forces screaming for war....

it is clear as hell that US and US brainwashed supporters wants war...

sad.

a reply to: OptimisticCynic

Yes, I was saying - you've quoted a notoriously iffy source who has attached their own spin on something that is nowhere near what your trying to claim it to be.

They're trying to reduce dollar dependence, not crash it.

Doing so would cripple China. They also seem to be missing a key point when they went on about the amount of US debt - it isn't a problem for the US in the slightest, it's more of a problem for the people they owe money too. Collapsing the dollar will simply reduce the value of the debt held, shafting the people who lent in the first place and seeing as China is one of the largest buyers of US Government debt, why on earth would they seek to devalue the money they are owed and cripple their own economy in the process?

You seem to a bit naive and woefully misinformed with economics and what BRIC actually is. It's funny, actually, because the articles you quoted mentioned the new Development bank being setup by China et al - it's biggest backers are actually Western Governments, including the UK.

It isn't to collapse the West - it is simply to not be so dependent on the West for their financial institutions.

originally posted by: ZakOlongapo
are You sure he wants another Cold War?
maybe Russia( Putin is just head of something bigger) having enough of US (west) bullcrap...
for sure there are forces screaming for peace and forces screaming for war....

it is clear as hell that US and US brainwashed supporters wants war...

sad.

Wait so US supporters want war, yet it looks to be that Russia is the one trying to push that direction with talking about action with palestine against Israel?

thats one giant contradiction

originally posted by: Christosterone
The good news is that Russia has a pathetic army...and an even more pathetic work ethic(as a society)...and that's to say nothing about the poor innate, inherent IQ of its alcohol imbibing populace....

Once we get a new president with a backbone, America will [again] put that pathetic socialist parasite in its place...

-Christosterone

The second most powerful military in the world is pathetic? So President with a backbone is a Israeli bootlicker that goes to war with whomever they point their finger at like the last idiot we had in office?

originally posted by: Phoenix
a reply to: maddy21

I'm assuming until hearing otherwise that all territory proposed would come from Israel alone and not the surrounding countries that also have Palestinian lands incorporated in their territories.

That's the rub I've always had with these proposals and most likely the reason they've gone nowhere over the years.

Demanding that Israel and Israel alone give territory is a non-starter and just perpetuates an acrimonious situation.

Even were this issue dealt with who thinks ME would all sudden be peaceful?

Not me as Palestinians were kicked out of Syria and Lebanon due the trouble they brought, I think the Palestinian cause offers a convenient excuse for extremists which wont change even with that issue dealt with.

Like almost the whole nation of Jordon?

a reply to: stumason

zerohedge is not an iffy source

and there are other sources out there

Every economist out there sees whats going on

You seem to a bit naive and woefully misinformed with economics and what BRIC actually is. It's funny, actually, because the articles you quoted mentioned the new Development bank being setup by China et al - it's biggest backers are actually Western Governments, including the UK.

and you seem woefully arrogant , and convinced of your own self righteousness

I listed proof from my links, lol im sorry you feel "Zero Hedge" is a iffy source , because its actually NOT

And ill take the word of actual Economists, and an actual RUSSIAN gov official, over some British guy on a conspiracy site who clearly thinks hes the smartest man in the room

a reply to: OptimisticCynic

BRICS can't destroy the US and the US can't destroy BRICS. It's a chess match where the only potential losers are the citizens, because the elitists bankers have enough for 100 lifetimes.

The Federal Reserve and the global ponzie scheme of private fractional reserve banking is the only force that can dictate financial collapses.

In the US all we would have to do is end the Fed and work with our neighbors in Canada, Mexico and South America. We may do without a few toys until new factories could be built, but BRICS is not a threat to the US. We don't need made in China garbage, and China can find other buyers if they want to stop trading in dollars.

We have only been a truly global community for about 100 years. Russia, China and the US were fine before globalization and will be fine without it. I would be more worried about the effects on smaller 3rd world nations.

originally posted by: Isurrender73
a reply to: OptimisticCynic

BRICS can't destroy the US and the US can't destroy BRICS. It's a chess match where the only potential losers are the citizens, because the elitists bankers have enough for 100 lifetimes.

The Federal Reserve and the global ponzie scheme of private fractional reserve banking is the only force that can dictate financial collapses.

In the US all we would have to do is end the Fed and work with our neighbors in Canada, Mexico and South America. We may due without a few toys until new factories could be built, but BRICS is not a threat to the US. We don't need made in China garbage, and China can find other buyers if they want to stop trading in dollars.

We have only been a truly global community for about 100 years. Russia, China and the US were fine before globalization and will be fine without it. I would be more worried about the effects on smaller 3rd world nations.

cant say i disagree with that

This should go well....

More tea anyone!

It's just that we've failed to bring peace to middle east... It's time for a change , and give the stick to another super power to try and make it work..

a reply to: OptimisticCynic

no. Israel is destabilizing the origin for some time... Israel is illegal state. like it or not. but those who created Israel, created it based on lie....

OptimisticCynic
If this information is accurate and there is escalation.......

Welcome to WW3

Gog and Magog huh?

Isurrend73
Gog and Magog come after the 1000 year reign of Christ. Unless they deleted it from our history books I'm certain we have never had 1000 years of global peace under one religious ideology.

OptimisticCynic
Ummmm no , Gog and Magog are the Tribulation events the "Gog and Magog" is basically the battle of Armageddon........the 1000 yrs comes after that as per the story of revelation......

The Battle of Gog and Magog ushers in the 2nd coming.......then theres 1000 yrs of peace......

Maybe we are reading a different book?

Revelation 20
7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth Gog and Magog and to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore.

edit on 11-10-2015 by Isurrender73 because: (no reason given)

a reply to: maddy21

I think we will see history unfold very soon!

you need and president with bigger brains than an bankaccount ....I do'nt see it happens ROTFL .... a reply to: Christosterone

D:

a reply to: OptimisticCynic

Pravda is your iffy source, not Zero Hedge..

And no, "every economist" doesn't see what doom-porn wet dream you're seeing.

I clearly told you why I disagreed and all you can do is stamp your feet. BRIC's (the loose collection of totally dissimilar nations, most of which have huge problems of their own) is not trying to collapse the US.

How about, instead of quoting obscure sources, you formulate in your own words why you think BRIC's is trying to collapse the US?