Former George Bush Chief Economist Says 911 Was An Inside Job

a reply to: lightedhype

I agree with your take on 9/11. You may find this link educational: www.americanprogress.org...

The news is 11 years old, but it is interesting and well sourced. The administration reduced funding for counterterrorism, de prioritized the bin Laden threat from Clinton level, and didn't share information with all the relevant departments. No one was held accountable, and Iraq became a target for no justifiable reason.

I think you hit the nail on the head when you said, "They actually were waiting for exactly such an occasion." PNAC was waiting for a"new Pearl Harbor", and the administration was looking for anything they could use to go into Iraq.

When we invaded, some of my friends were in disbelief. I told them, "We elected an oil guy and a defence contractor. What did you think was going to happen?"

There is no way jet fuel which is kerosine can vaproize steel gurders not to mention the steel spiderwebbing and concrete running through those buildings. Ever blowtorch a steel gurder? It takes focused heat to penetrate it. And it takes a long time. Then building 7 collapses like a controlled demolition and it was untouched. But it did have all the evidence and fbi records of all the wall street investigations for the past 25 years in it. The US Military was doing an operation that day nationally about a scenario where terrorists hijacked planes. Sound shady yet? Thats why jets didnt respond to the planes until after they hit the buildings. Of course it was an inside job.

Oh yeah the Bin Laden family own businesses with the Bush family too you know OSAMAs Family. Bush brothers security company is in charge of the twin towers security firm and the buildings were shut down for mainteance over the weekend before the attacks. Good time to plant thermite detonators and wire the building. The twin towers were designed to mimic meccas square. It was symbolic they were destroyed to symbolize the destruction of the middle east. Yeah but its all just fantasy. Take your green pill.

a reply to: skyeagle409 Its really Bizarre that the trucking was loading and shipping all the Steel debris to China at the instant a path was cleared. No time wasted, as if it was preordained just waiting for the call

You know its cheaper for terrorists to take down your buildings to clear the way for bigger and better things...Especially a few free Billions

Billions all around....Everyone who's anyone gets a piece of the action, Espeacially when the fun never ends...or no end in sight

Whats funny is people think our country is run by the politicians. It is not. They are all globalists, both parties and our military industrial complex make money off of war and they consider it population control. The system is rigged. Your vote no longer matters. They do what they want. Your opinion really doesnt matter. Corporations run the world. Banks enslave us with the credit system and tax us to death. The news is just blatant brainwashing.

"Inside Job" I always find a misdemeanor or blurring of what took place... Those that did the initial deadly deed were terrorists... and a smoke screen, leaving only TPTB to simply remove the checks and balances that would normally stop such activities and adding fuel to the fire for their own ends(Building 7, particular offices within the Pentagon) Very much akin to the JFK assassination setting up a fall guy while the unseen hand removes the checks and balances allowing the South American Assassin to come and go with impunity... Shadowy hand that seemingly has its roots firmly in the CIA,FBI etc. all in the Republican Camp with its long historic family ties. A Jingoistic Cult of the nastiest order.

a reply to: BobbyFontaine

Follow the money, always follow the money!

originally posted by: texasyeti
Whats funny is people think our country is run by the politicians. It is not. They are all globalists, both parties and our military industrial complex make money off of war and they consider it population control. The system is rigged. Your vote no longer matters. They do what they want. Your opinion really doesnt matter. Corporations run the world. Banks enslave us with the credit system and tax us to death. The news is just blatant brainwashing.

Sad but true.

The US government was hijacked many years ago, just as Ike warned about in 1961

originally posted by: Salander
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The US government was hijacked many years ago, just as Ike warned about in 1961

What was that warning?

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Simply put, "beware the MIC".

If you Google "Eisenhower Farewell Address" you can read it yourself.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Salander
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The US government was hijacked many years ago, just as Ike warned about in 1961

What was that warning?

As Augustus posted, Eisenhower warned the American people in his farewell address about getting in bed with the Military-Industrial Complex, 'sought or unsought.' It was about the time the gov't, military, and industry began their nafarious endeavors, projects involving missile technology and aircraft (U2, Oxcart, Watertown Strip) really took off.

a reply to: texasyeti

There is no way jet fuel which is kerosine can vaproize steel gurders not to mention the steel spiderwebbing and concrete running through those buildings.

Nothing was vaporized. Look what fire can do to steel.

Look what fire did to these steel beams

Then building 7 collapses like a controlled demolition and it was untouched.

WTC7 was touched and heavily damaged by falling debris from WTC1.

Description of WTC 7 Damage

So we go there and on the north and east side of 7 it didn’t look like there was any damage at all, but then you looked on the south side of 7 there had to be a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors. Debris was falling down on the building and it didn’t look good.

www.debunking911.com...

Thats why jets didnt respond to the planes until after they hit the buildings.

Because of mass confusion within ATC. In addition:

9-11 Fighter Pilot: We Wouldn't Have Shot Down Hijackers

The pilot of one of two U.S. military jets that were scrambled on 9-11 moments after kamikaze hijacker Mohamed Atta slammed American Airlines Flight 11 into Tower One of the World Trade Center said Wednesday that he wouldn't have been able to stop the attack even if he intercepted the plane.

"If we had intercepted American 11, we probably would have watched it crash," the pilot, identified only by his military codename "Nasty," told the Cape Cod Times. "We didn't have the authority to (shoot it down)."

As part of the 102nd Fighter Wing flying out of Otis Air National Guard Base on Cape Cod, "Nasty" and his partner, codenamed "Duff," were scrambled at 8:46 a.m. as news of Flight 11's hijacking reached the base.

"We didn't suspect they would use kamikaze tactics that morning," the pilot told the Times. "We weren't ready for that type of an attack, to quickly shoot down one of our own airplanes." At the time, military pilots had no such standing orders. Absent a presidential directive they had no authority to blow a commercial airliner out of the sky.


113th Wing, Andrews AFB

"We've never been an air defense unit. We practice scrambles, we know how to do intercepts and other things, but there's a lot of protocol in the air defense business. We obviously didn't have that expertise...

Chief of Safety for the 113th Wing, Andrews AFB.


Confusion on 9/11

"The fighter pilots do not know if they have permission to shoot down planes. A commander tells them they do not.

www.nytimes.com...


In interviews with us, NEADS personnel expressed considerable confusion over the nature and effect of the order

The NEADS commander told us he did not pass along the order because he was unaware of its ramifications. Both the mission commander and the senior weapons director indicated they did not pass the order to the fighters circling Washington and New York because they were unsure how the pilots would, or should, proceed with this guidance.

...the Langley pilots did not know the threat they were facing, did not know where United 93 was located, and did not have shoot-down authorization before United 93 crashed.


Communication transcript conserning United 93

FAA (DC): Go ahead.
NEADS: United nine three, have you got information on that yet?
FAA: Yeah, he's down.
NEADS: He's down?
FAA: Yes.
NEADS: When did he land? Cause we have got confirmation...
FAA: He did not land.
NEADS: Oh, he's down? Down?
FAA: Yes. Somewhere up northeast of Camp David.
NEADS: Northeast of Camp David.
FAA: That's the last report. They don't know exactly where.

The NEADS air defenders never located the flight or followed it on their radar scopes. The flight had already crashed by the time they learned it was hijacked.

10:17 Command Center advised headquarters of its conclusion that United 93 had indeed crashed.

Despite the discussions about military assistance, no one from FAA headquarters requested military assistance regarding United 93. Nor did any manager at FAA headquarters pass any of the information it had about United 93 to the military.

www.npr.org...

a reply to: Nac2m

PNAC was waiting for a"new Pearl Harbor", and the administration was looking for anything they could use to go into Iraq.

The United Nations had the authority to go back into Iraq after Saddam broke 16 UN resolutions after the first Gulf War. I might add that the United States didn't go to war when terrorist bombed WTC1 in 1993, whereas, one of the terrorist fled to Iraq, and then, to Pakistan.

As far as that story regarding WMD in Iraq, it was an Iraqi national, code named: "Curveball", who was responsible for that story, not the United States. However, WMD was eventually found in Iraq and 500 tons of "yellowcake" was discovered as well and shipped out of Iraq.

a reply to: skyeagle409

After reading all the transcripts, it is apparent just how much confusion there was. Without a doubt, the ensuing confusion contributed to the devastation the attacks caused. I'm sure that was a significant factor in the attack planning.

a reply to: SPECULUM

Its really Bizarre that the trucking was loading and shipping all the Steel debris to China at the instant a path was cleared.

No, because only the steel pertinent to the investigation was examined. There was no reason to examine every steel column of the WTC buildings. Some of the WTC steel found its way into the construction of the USS New York and I even posed with WTC steel that was shipped to Rio Vista, CA.

a reply to: Cosmic911

After reading all the transcripts, it is apparent just how much confusion there was. Without a doubt, the ensuing confusion contributed to the devastation the attacks caused. I'm sure that was a significant factor in the attack planning.

There was a lot of confusion. On another note, our air defenses were not geared to intercept civilian aircraft within the borders of the United States before 9/11. Two examples are the Lear Jet interception of Payne Stewart and a stolen Lear Jet that flew from Virginia to Denver.

The Crash of Payne Stewart's Lear Jet

At 1327:13Z, the controller from the Jacksonville ARTCC instructed the pilot to climb and maintain flight level (FL) 390 (39,000 feet (12,000 m) above sea level). At 1327:18Z (0927:18 EDT), the pilot acknowledged the clearance by stating, "three nine zero bravo alpha." This was the last known radio transmission from the airplane, and occurred while the aircraft was passing through 23,000 feet (7,000 m). The next attempt to contact the aircraft occurred six minutes, 20 seconds later (14 minutes after departure), with the aircraft at 36,500 feet (11,100 m), and the controller's message went unacknowledged.

The controller attempted to contact N47BA five more times in the next 4½ minutes, again with no answer.

First interception

About 1454Z (now 0954 CDT due to the flight's crossing into the Central Time zone), a U.S. Air Force F-16 test pilot from the 40th Flight Test Squadron at Eglin Air Force Base, Florida, who happened to be in the air nearby, was directed by controllers to intercept N47BA. When the fighter was about 2,000 feet (610 m) from the Learjet, at an altitude of about 46,400 feet (14,100 m), the test pilot made two radio calls to N47BA but did not receive a response.

The F-16 pilot made a visual inspection of the Lear, finding no visible damage to the airplane. Both engines were running, and the plane's red rotating anti-collision beacon was on (standard operation for aircraft in flight). The fighter pilot could not see inside the passenger section of the airplane because the windows seemed to be dark. Further, he stated that the entire right cockpit windshield was opaque, as if condensation or ice covered the inside.

He also indicated that the left cockpit windshield was opaque, although several sections of the center of the windshield seemed to be only thinly covered by condensation or ice; a small rectangular section of the windshield was clear, with only a small section of the glare shield visible through this area. He did not see any flight control movement. About 1512Z, the F-16 pilot concluded his inspection of N47BA and broke formation, proceeding to Scott AFB, Illinois

en.wikipedia.org...


Stolen Lear Jet flew 1600 miles from Virginia to Denver, CO.

Death Ends 1,600-Mile Flight Of Learjet Stolen by Mechanic

A flight mechanic who did not have a pilot's license stole a private jet in Virginia early today and flew it 1,600 miles to Denver, where he shot himself to death as the authorities closed in, officials said.
They said they did not why the mechanic, Mike Christiansen, 24 years old, of Newport News, Va., stole the twin-engine Learjet 36-A.

He was found dead at the controls moments after landing the plane that had been stolen from his employer, Flight International, at Patrick Henry International Airport in Newport News.

www.nytimes.com...

originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: SPECULUM

Its really Bizarre that the trucking was loading and shipping all the Steel debris to China at the instant a path was cleared.

No, because only the steel pertinent to the investigation was examined. There was no reason to examine every steel column of the WTC buildings. Some of the WTC steel found its way into the construction of the USS New York and I even posed with WTC steel that was shipped to Rio Vista, CA.

I wonder, who was responsible in the investigation to determine what steel was and was not Pertinent?

a reply to: Cosmic911

I wonder, who was responsible in the investigation to determine what steel was and was not Pertinent?

NIST investigators and experts from the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) and the Structural Engineers Association of New York (SEONY)

a reply to: texasyeti

Oh yeah the Bin Laden family own businesses with the Bush family too you know OSAMAs Family.

Bush never dealt with Osama bin Laden, only his family. I might add that bin Laden's family have disowned him.

a reply to: Nac2m

" PNAC was waiting for a"new Pearl Harbor", ...

What does "New Pearl Harbor" mean?