Former George Bush Chief Economist Says 911 Was An Inside Job

originally posted by: ColdChillin
a reply to: skyeagle409

So why was thermite still burning in the rubble months after 9/11, again? Hot spots in excess of 1100°.
Nice attempt at disinformation, though.

They found evidence of temps of 3180* F.. just FYI

originally posted by: ColdChillin
a reply to: nwtrucker

Two factions that share power but one agenda. Period.

Well, you've certainly found a nice, easy cubby-hole to label the event.

Too much for me to swallow, sorry about that.

a reply to: wildb

That's false because recorded and documented temperatures never reached the melting point of steel and Steven Jones has since been debunked when it was determined that he lied. In that regard, you blundered by posting more disinformation.

a reply to: ColdChillin

So why was thermite still burning in the rubble months after 9/11, again?

Thermite burns out after a matter of seconds, not hours, days, weeks nor months later. Someone has successfully duped 9/11 conspiracy theorist that thermite was still burning months later, when in fact, thermite burns out in a relatively short period of time.

Hot spots in excess of 1100°. Nice attempt at disinformation, though.

Now, its time for you to be taught a lesson. Check it out.

Iron Burns

Sometimes a big load of iron in a ship can get hot. The heat can even set other materials on fire. That’s because the iron is rusting, which means it is burning very, very slowly. Iron rusts in a chemical reaction called oxidation.

That means the iron reacts with oxygen gas from the air. Oxidation is the chemical reaction that occurs when anything burns in air. Like most oxidations, rusting gives off heat."

www.debunking911.com...

It seems that 9/11 conspiracy theorist are not in the habit of doing homework or doing it properly when they do.


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a reply to: ColdChillin

Two factions that share power but one agenda. Period.

What agenda?

originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: wildb

That's false because recorded and documented temperatures never reached the melting point of steel and Steven Jones has since been debunked when it was determined that he lied. In that regard, you blundered by posting more disinformation.

Its fact from your own report, lying again ay...

However, RJ Lee had written an earlier report in 2003, entitled “WTC Dust Signature Study,” which contained much more about iron. It said: “Particles of materials that had been modified by exposure to high temperature, such as spherical particles of iron and silicates, are common in WTC Dust … but are not common in ‘normal’ interior office dust.” [21] This 2003 version of the report even pointed out that, whereas iron particles constitute only 0.04 percent of normal building dust, they constituted an enormous amount of the WTC dust: 5.87 percent (meaning that there was almost 1,500 times more iron in the dust than normal). [22] This earlier version also explicitly stated that iron and other metals were “melted during the WTC Event, producing spherical metallic particles.” [23] In addition, whereas the 2004 report did not use the word “vaporize,” this earlier version spoke of temperatures “at which lead would have undergone vaporization.” [24] Accordingly, whereas the 2004 report referred to “high temperatures,” the earlier report indicated that the temperatures were not merely high but extremely high, because for lead to boil and hence vaporize, it must be heated to 1,749°C (3,180°F). [

a reply to: wildb

Now, let's take another look at the report of the RJ Lee Group because they found no evidence of explosives and thermite in its dust samples.

The RJ Lee Group

The RJ Lee Group report considers samples taken several months after the collapses, and it is certain that torch-cutting of steel beams as part of the cleanup process contributed some, if not all, of the spherules seen in these samples.

Debunked: Iron Microspheres in 9/11 WTC Dust as Evidence for Thermite

RJ Lee Gruop Report 1

RJ Lee Group Report 2

a reply to: skyeagle409

Now, let's take another look at the report of the RJ Lee Group because they found no evidence of explosives and thermite in its dust samples.

Who said they did, are you talking to yourself again..

a reply to: wildb

The RJ Lee Group found no evidence of explosives or thermite in its dust samples and explosives and thermite do not leave behind molten metal. The RJ Lee Group also reported that torches were responsible for many of those spheres in its dust samples.

In other words, you have no case.

originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: wildb

The RJ Lee Group found no evidence of explosives or thermite in its dust samples and explosives and thermite do not leave behind molten metal. The RJ Lee Group also reported that torches were responsible for many of those spheres in its dust samples.

In other words, you have no case.

I never said they did, so just who are you talking to, yourself? no one else is here..

a reply to: wildb

Then, you have no case.

He has a case, a solid case.

You are deeply in denial Skyeagle, and therefore impossible to reason with.

originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: wildb

That's false because recorded and documented temperatures never reached the melting point of steel and Steven Jones has since been debunked when it was determined that he lied. In that regard, you blundered by posting more disinformation.

They found evidence of temps of 3180* F that is fact from RJ Lee

originally posted by: Salander
He has a case, a solid case.

You are deeply in denial Skyeagle, and therefore impossible to reason with.

Thank you, and yes he is..

a reply to: wildb

They did not! Evidence please. No evidence, no case.

a reply to: Salander

Considering that you have failed to post evidence that refutes what I have posted, you have no case. Now, where is your evidence that refutes my presentations?

The Collapse of World Trade Center Buildings 1 & 2

The unique structure of the WTC towers exaggerated the problems caused by the weakened steel. The towers had a lightweight “perimeter tube” design consisting of 244 exterior columns of 36 cm square steel box section on 100 cm centers, with 95% of the structure’s interior consisting of nothing but air (see Figure 1).6 Within this perimeter tube design there was a 27m by 40m core, designed to provide additional support to the tower.

Steel trusses, or joists, connected the outer beams to the core at each story, and provided much of the overall support to the weight of each floor. The impact and explosion of the airplane crashes probably knocked off most of the insulating material intended to fireproof the steel beams, considerably increasing their vulnerability to flames.

www.skeptic.com...

originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: Salander

Considering that you have failed to post evidence that refutes what I have posted, you have no case. Now, where is your evidence that refutes my presentations?

Right here on page 21.. we have been through this on Dec 5th, its in the report.


911research.wtc7.net...

a reply to: wildb

Nothing on page 21 that says he temperatures were over 3000 degrees F. You made that up. The RJ Lee Group had said in its report that many of the spheres were created by torches.

Also, read where the report says the spheres are obtainable at tempertatures from petroleum and coal-based fuels.

RJ Lee Group Report

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originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: wildb

Nothing on page 21 that says he temperatures were over 3000 degrees F. You made that up. The RJ Lee Group had said in its report that many of the spheres were created by torches.

RJ Lee Group Report

Sure it does.. www.engineeringtoolbox.com...


For example, lead peaks from the surface
of mineral wool were identified by
XPS. The high-resolution, narrow-range
XPS scan (
Figure 25
) led to the identification of two lead peaks representing
lead oxide or lead sulfate. The presence of lead oxides on the surface of
mineral wool indicates the exposure of
high temperatures at which lead
would have undergone vaporization, ox
idation, and condensation on the
surface of mineral wool.

a reply to: wildb

Nothing there that temperatures reached over 3000 degrees. You didn't read the report correctly because the high temperatures the RJ Lee Group speaks of refers typical fires.

In addition, iron flakes melt at much lower temperatures than an iron beam. Read the report properly before I have to correct you again.