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originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: wildb
Nothing there that temperatures reached over 3000 degrees. You didn't read the report correctly because the high temperatures the RJ Lee Group speaks of refers typical fires.
In addition, iron flakes melt at much lower temperatures than an iron beam. Read the report properly before I have to correct you again.
Point TT-6: The Claim that There Was No Molten Steel or Iron in the WTC
www.consensus911.org...
originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: wildb
That did not come from the RJ Lee Group. what you posted came from this website.
Point TT-6: The Claim that There Was No Molten Steel or Iron in the WTC
www.consensus911.org...
You tied to pull a fast one and it didn't work.
The RJ Lee Group Report
The RJ Lee Group report considers samples taken several months after the collapses, and it is certain that torch-cutting of steel beams as part of the cleanup process contributed some, if not all, of the spherules seen in these samples.
originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: wildb
That won't fly, and here's more that you somehow, overlooked.
The RJ Lee Group Report
The RJ Lee Group report considers samples taken several months after the collapses, and it is certain that torch-cutting of steel beams as part of the cleanup process contributed some, if not all, of the spherules seen in these samples.
RJ Lee Group Dust Sample
This frightening "cocktail" of environmental contamination had never been seen before.
It contained components from the planes, jet fuel, fires, standard building materials and electronics that had been pulverized into a fine dust that permeated everything.
www.wtcreflections.rjlg.com...
originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: wildb
Nope, and here's something else you had overlooked. Thanks for providing the reference.
RJ Lee Group Dust Sample
This frightening "cocktail" of environmental contamination had never been seen before.
It contained components from the planes, jet fuel, fires, standard building materials and electronics that had been pulverized into a fine dust that permeated everything.
www.wtcreflections.rjlg.com...
Nothing there about explosives.
We're not talking about explosives,...
No Evidence of Explosive or Thermite Found
The R.J. Lee Company did a 2003 study on the dust and didn't find thermitic material. Other sampling of the pulverized dust by United States Geological Survey and RJ Lee did not report any evidence of thermite or explosives. It has been theorized the "thermite material" found was primer paint.
No evidence has ever been found of explosive charges and there are no recordings of a series of very loud explosions that would have been expected with controlled demolition. Furthermore, there is an alternative explanation for the "thermitic material" the sceptical scientists found in the dust - it is just a type of primer paint. It's calculated 1,200,000 tonnes of building materials were pulverised at the World Trade Center and most minerals are present in the dust (not necessarily in a large quantity).
More extensive sampling of the dust has not found any evidence of thermite or explosives, says a report from the US Geological Survey and another from RJ Lee.
www.bbc.com...
Good, because no evidence of explosives was ever found at WTC ground zero.
originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: wildb
You have to remember that anything with AE911 Truth stamped on it has been discredited. Do a background check on the discredited AE911 Truth group. Even some of the former associates of AE911 Truth have jumped ship due to that group's financial misconduct, lies, dishonesty and the passing of disinformation.
I might add that there have been cases where 9/11 conspiracy theorist and even VA Today have attacked the discredited AE911 Truth group.
Why would she be, and who says you? yeah ok, she is a scientist with awards, she is talking about the investigation and how it was done, and she is correct...
originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: wildb
Why would she be, and who says you? yeah ok, she is a scientist with awards, she is talking about the investigation and how it was done, and she is correct...
She is one, whereas, hundreds of thousands of experts do not agree with her. Would you like to see the numbers?
originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: wildb
First of all, what did she say about the red/gray chips in that video? it was later determined the chips were primer paint.
Lynn Margulis attended the University of Chicago as an undergraduate, graduating with an A.B. in Liberal Arts in 1957, when she was only 19 years old. In 1960, she received her M. S. degree in genetics and zoology from the University of Wisconsin. Margulis received her Ph.D. in Genetics in 1963, from the University of California, Berkeley.
Margulis also has served as Chair of the National Academy of Science's Space Science Board Committee on Planetary Biology and Chemistry Evolution (1977-1980). In 1983, she was elected a member of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences (Sehi 2001). Margulis held two fellowships after completing her doctoral degree, the Sherman Fairchild Fellowship in the Geological and Planetary Sciences Department at California Institute of Technology (1977) and the Guggenheim Fellowship for her work on microbial mats (Sehi 2001). Among the many awards Margulis has received are eight honorary doctorates (by 2001), and induction into the World Academy of Art and Science (1995), the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences (1997), and the American Academy of Arts and Sciences (1998) (Sehi 2001). In 1999, she was awarded the National Medal of Science. Margulis is profiled in a book published in 2006, by Resurgence Magazine in the United Kingdom, called Visionaries: The 20th Century's 100 Most Important Inspirational Leaders
Margulis was the first wife of astronomer Carl Sagan and is the mother of Dorion Sagan, popular science writer and co-author; Jeremy Sagan, software developer and founder of Sagan Technology; Zachary Margulis-Ohnuma, New York City Criminal Defense lawyer; and Jennifer Margulis, teacher and author. In 2006, with her son Dorion, Margulis founded Sciencewriters Books, an imprint of Chelsea Green Publishing for science books.
originally posted by: wildb
originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: wildb
First of all, what did she say about the red/gray chips in that video? it was later determined the chips were primer paint.
Deflecting again sky, what she said was true, it was proven by people and labs around the world, I do not buy the paint chip story, these people and organizations are not going to make fools of themselves.
originally posted by: pteridine
originally posted by: wildb
originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: wildb
First of all, what did she say about the red/gray chips in that video? it was later determined the chips were primer paint.
Deflecting again sky, what she said was true, it was proven by people and labs around the world, I do not buy the paint chip story, these people and organizations are not going to make fools of themselves.
She is delusional. I have shown in previous threads that Jones' own data is thermodynamically inconsistent with any such "thermitic material." Further, demolitions using thermite cannot be timed which is why noisy, high brisance explosives are used in building demolitions and not thermite.
The chips were primer paint on gray iron oxide scale.