Russian su30's see off Israeli f-15's

As much as I would love this to be true. Why is there nothing in the news from RT or Israeli media ?

I know Israel would love to keep this out of the news, tail between their legs and all, but why not a peep from Russia.

If this is true and Russia doesnt even bother to report it would be pretty cool.

originally posted by: HUMBLEONE
The Israeli 's now have a REAL airforce to contend with! Don't f$ck with Putin!

You mean Russian pilots that have absolutely ZERO experience lol. The Israelis will clean their clocks. Israel was probably just testing the waters or about to hit a Hezbollah target in the Beka valley.

Russia made an agreement with Israel before they started landing in Syria. Russia flies by day and Israel can attack by night in the Lebanon Syria border area and the Golan Heights area to stop weapons from getting into Lebanon via Syria.

a reply to: bjarneorn

In a one to one dogfight within visual range and under a well skilled pilot, there is no match for Su-30s, even F-22s would get a beat. BVR basis F-22s might get an upperhand where its presence might not be known to the Su operator.

a reply to: Bicent76

It is, at medium and short range. It's when you start to get to the longer ranges that the Pk drops, and fairly significantly.

Don't confuse "running" with gathering "intel"...There's not any nation on earth, that wants to F with Isreal, head to head,.. now. Then again? Don't confuse BS with reality. This story has BS writen all over it. It was only posted to support the OP's hate (emotion) against truth and "jews".. .. "Deny ignorance" ... Indead.?!.

a reply to: murphy22

There's not any nation on earth, that wants to F with Isreal, head to head,.. now.

A little delusional aren't you? Even the military commanders in Israel says they can't even take on Iran by themselves.

a reply to: buster2010

Depends entirely on the circumstances. Israel can't take on Iran, because they're limited in their ability to strike at that distance. Fighting on or just outside their home territory the IAF is the best in the region.

Warriors run and smile. Because they know all the enemy can see, is "running". ...You ATS armchair, educated, global leaders, ...need to sit down and have a cold glass of OJ.. Nobody cares what you "think" about "news", real or fake. If it's not at your computer or in your living room? .... You're not in the battle space and have no idea, what to think or "comment" on. Stick to "moon landings" and "buildings" on Mars. It best suites you.

a reply to: Patriotsrevenge

You mean Russian pilots that have absolutely ZERO experience lol.

And just what air forces have Israel fought against?

The Israelis will clean their clocks.

Hardly the F 15's are no match for the Russian planes.

a reply to: buster2010

Don't confuse "what you got" with how "you use it". ... I could tell you a couple "stories" about "tech" and "machines".. .. A "machine" is only as good as the driver or the programme. ..But never, ....Don't underestimate a warrior and thier only weapon. Go, drink some, Koolaid.... give your computer a rest.

a reply to: AlphaPred

4 30s, vs 4 15's wouldn't end well lol.

Israel finally get's the big middle finger they deserve.

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: AlphaPred
Israeli pilots are among the best in the world, CHOSEN and developed.
but as you say dealing with a real airforce now
6 30's against 4 15's was never gonna end well for Israel
a reply to: HUMBLEONE

What air force has Israel fought against to prove they are among the best in the world? Not to mention the SU-30 was built to go against the F22 it could have been four against four and the odds would still be against Israel.

That depends on the source:

From World Daily Net, 2005: WorldNetDaily (WND) reported February 14 that the Israeli air force had trounced a U.S. fighter force from the USS Theodore Roosevelt in a mock battle. During this training exercise in the Negev desert between Israeli air force F-16 pilots and U.S. Navy pilots from the USS Theodore Roosevelt, Israeli air force pilots, according to the Jerusalem Post, "shot down" 220 Navy F-14s and F-18s while only "losing" 20 F-16s. In one exercise, the paper said, the reported kill ratio was 40:1 in the Israelis' favor, an outcome so stunning, according to an Israeli officer quoted by the Post, the results weren't made public to "save the reputations of U.S. Navy pilots."

No doubt the US pilots are some of the best in the world, but very often I have read reports that Israel out flies them in war games. That is because they are selected, rather than volunteers.

a reply to: TheChrome

Just so you know this is the man that is the editor in chief of that website

en.wikipedia.org...

conservative christian of syrian and lebanese decent.

Previously of the LA Herald..... which lost 3 million annually until it was bought, when he left as it's editor...


Joseph also writes a column for the Jerusalem post.

Just saying.....

originally posted by: buster2010

What air force has Israel fought against to prove they are among the best in the world? Not to mention the SU-30 was built to go against the F22 it could have been four against four and the odds would still be against Israel.

Well they are trained by the best... BTW what air force has Russia fought against? SU-30 might have been built to go against the F-22, but then that is not saying much. My old boss in the AF flew F-15s and he did a red flag against 2 F-22s and it was him and 5 other F-15s and they were dead before anything hardly started... he was pissed to say the least, saying the F-22 cheats...hehe

We been fighting testing improving our war fighting abilities for 15 years, Israel has been doing the same thing, and you suggest Russia somehow comes along with all that by what?

originally posted by: buster2010

And just what air forces have Israel fought against?

The US in many many events...

Hardly the F 15's are no match for the Russian planes.

So says the arm chair pilot...hehe

Don't worry we know exactly what the Russians can do and not do, don't underestimated the F-15s they are older but they are not your Daddy's F-15s either... I would not be surprised if a dozen F-22s end up in Israel with Israel/American pilots... that would be basically the end to any limited Russian air superiority.

Israel seems happy that the middle east is still mucking up life in general all over and is happy to see everyone infighting which buys more time for the bottom line.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: buster2010

And just what air forces have Israel fought against?

The US in many many events...

Hardly the F 15's are no match for the Russian planes.

So says the arm chair pilot...hehe

Don't worry we know exactly what the Russians can do and not do, don't underestimated the F-15s they are older but they are not your Daddy's F-15s either... I would not be surprised if a dozen F-22s end up in Israel with Israel/American pilots... that would be basically the end to any limited Russian air superiority.

And you are a fighter-pilot i presume? Giving Your expert air combat experianced knowlege i presume...

I bet you dont know # about Russian pilots or what they are capable of and neither does real American pilots.

Silly concept regardless.

Russia "wants" to fight with Israel about as much as the USA would "want" a fight with North Korea... There is a tremendous problem with an escalating situation with a nation you can beat but could still deliver a few warheads strategically, the smaller nation can be belligerent as heck because if you start firing within their borders they are taking you with them.

People will wish to come back with missile capacity etc, etc.... but here's the reality, lets use the USA/NK scenario... we'd murder them, they likely can't reach a US city. But one bomb in Tokyo and one in Seoul and bye bye USA superpower status regardless of the outcome, the financial complications in a modern age would be unrecoverable for a couple of decades.

Likewise, it's even worse in a Russian/Israel scenario because they could actually bomb Moscow, one or two low flying pros and Russia is over, they have 120 Million people in a psuedo economic crisis with a declining population aand by any standards only 2 cities Moscow 11 Million St Petersburg 6 and those are the only places any real leadership or control that can be exerted exists, i'm not talking about military command just.... after the fact there is Nothing, nothing at all... You'd be talking about a nation with a largest city of one Million all major Intellectual centers and universities gone, everyone backwater hicks... and if Israel fired that shot there would be nothing for Russia to fire back at if they acted of their own accord...

More of Putin sending "messages"

In reality Israel is Russias greatest fear, they can bark at Nato all they want because war with Russia would be devastating for the developed Western world they have tons to throw back... But Israel can end Russia and the West would loose "Israel" lol a completely ridiculous end to an empire with all of the West intact to absorb Russia and No they wont just Nuke everyone over a single rouge nation anymore than we would if NK hit Tokyo they aren't psychotic beasts...

Israel is Russia's Achilles heel, they might do whatever in the region but they will be careful not to cause a war with Israel.

I beg your pardon
Where's the hate?
Me thinks someones trolling
Like I could say "well you're obviously a disinformation plant funded by zionists a reply to: murphy22

Holy s##t dude, someones proper spat the dummy
And quite a sweeping comment
Obviously you have no idea whom you are talking too and as such just reinforces people's impression that you're a *** a reply to: murphy22