Islamic State (ISIS) Claims Responsibility for Oregon massacre. Chris Harper Mercer a Black Muslim?

a reply to: ketsuko

Has it really been dropped from the news cycle? I just did a google search and all sorts of news articles about it are popping up dated this morning alone. I know yesterday I saw all kinds of coverage about it on the evil MSNBC. All the stories are just speculation, retrospection and rehashing because there isn't any new info yet.

a reply to: angeldoll

So lets blame all the people who question religion eh? is this what you agree with? Grand has said it already are you blaming people who question religion?.
Should we all be quiet and not question it incase someone goes mad and does it again?.
The real thing is this tradgedy is obviously mental illness but you lot keep on telling yourselfs this is a greater plot to kill christians.
You all love it don't you I can see you all loving the fact people were killed and in your eyes it was because they were Christian.
Just gives you more ammunition doesn't it to bleat to all how horrid it is being a Christian and how everyone wants you all dead.
Disgusting the lot of you...It is like you only care that Christians were shot what about the others who died eh?.

a reply to: boymonkey74

You all love it don't you I can see you all loving the fact people were killed and in your eyes it was because they were Christian.
Just gives you more ammunition doesn't it to bleat to all how horrid it is being a Christian and how everyone wants you all dead.
Disgusting the lot of you...It is like you only care that Christians were shot what about the others who died eh?.

Wow. Actually I didn't say any of those things. Do you see? It's you who's saying those things, boymonkey, and you really should stop. They are very nasty as well as false. I'm sorry for all the deaths. I am a Christian, and I don't believe everyone wants to kill me, or wants me dead. Your comments are way, way an overreaction and exaggeration of what I actually said.

Im sorry you think I'm disgusting because I am a Christian.

a reply to: boymonkey74

Disgusting the lot of you

Ouch. Then sign me up too, I guess. I didn't know you felt that way. Sad now. Bye.

a reply to: angeldoll

I don't care I didn't start saying it is people who question religions fault did I.
Grand keeps on telling us and trying to blame others when It is the blame of the lack of mental health care and the fact nuts can get their hands on guns so easy.
Stop playing the persecution card.
I will not stay silent on my opposition to religion because some have said it is our fault.
Only one guy killed people here but I can point out many mass killings all done in the name of religion.

a reply to: grandmakdw

Same god you know.
You follow the same God as Muslims and the Jews.

a reply to: angeldoll

It's disgusting that you're trying to make this tragedy about you, not that you're Christian. After Sandy Hook, nobody was talking about a war on elementary school students. Enough with the false sense of victimhood already.

a reply to: ketsuko

Because a gunshot wound to the body/legs can't be fatal, right? Just like in the movies.

originally posted by: Monger
a reply to: angeldoll

It's disgusting that you're trying to make this tragedy about you, not that you're Christian. After Sandy Hook, nobody was talking about a war on elementary school students. Enough with the false sense of victimhood already.

You know, I'm not really getting the "victim hood' spin on this either. He said what he said, or what has been reported that he said, I don't know, I wasn't there. But if the reports are what is being reported, then it appears these students and teachers were actually assassinated because of their religious beliefs. Of course I'm not denying the mental illness aspect. You have to be as crazy as a road lizard to perpetrate a mass murder.

*shrugs shoulders*

Everybody thinks I'm disgusting today because of my religious beliefs? This is a new one on me. It's starting to freak me out.

a reply to: ladyinwaiting

No it is disgusting to use this tragedy to attempt to prove that everyone is out to get Christians and to say it is people who call out religions fault.
Sorry I get mad a little. If you don't use this tragedy to further the persecution card you aint disgusting.

1:if this guy's main motivation was ISIS or killing Christians you think he would have left behind statements about that instead of complaints about not having a girlfriend. Unless one thinks that's a lie that the anti-Obama right wing sheriff is going along with.

2: A lot of the people who present themselves as representing all Christians come across as bitter, angry, judgemental and vicious. They don't speak for all Christians. Even still, I don't see an organized attack on "Christians" by anyone significant. What people are reacting to is people who want to use the power of government to control other people's behavior and to force them into participating in their version of Christianity. They can't get away with that anymore and are defining that as victimization.

originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: ladyinwaiting

No it is disgusting to use this tragedy to attempt to prove that everyone is out to get Christians and to say it is people who call out religions fault.
Sorry I get mad a little. If you don't use this tragedy to further the persecution card you aint disgusting.

But I don't feel like everyone is out to get Christians. I'm not a victim of anything. I'm not the victim type.
And I haven't tried to generalize this. I am speaking to this one incident, is all.

If someone kills a Christian because they are a Christian, then I am going to become angry. If someone kills a Jew or a Muslin, simply because they are a Jew or a Muslim, then I am going to become angry.

And thank you for saying I'm not disgusting? Because I'm not disgusting. I pride myself on fairness.

"manifesto was recovered, and that Mercer had also turned over a thumb drive filled with racist bile."

I wonder if we will ever see what was said.

a reply to: Liquesence

And yet a full arsenal..legaly purchased.

As for IS..bullshavings, they are just capitalizing..they want everyone to be scared or start doing stupid stuff.

a reply to: DelMarvel

he did leave behind a manifesto and thumb drive

a reply to: ladyinwaiting

Then you are a true Christian one who Jesus would be proud of.
Sorry dear my anger has come from Grands statements from the moment the news broke he was blaming people who question religion for this.
If you read the thread from his original accusations...
In this thread but I will link the reasons why Iam defiant about religion.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I Serve Darkness': Oregon Gunman Wrote About Obsession with Satan in Reported Manifesto, Says Source

The Umpqua Community College shooter was obsessed with Satan and documented his devotion to darkness in a manifesto that was recovered from his computer, a source familiar with the investigation tells PEOPLE. (PEOPLE has not received a copy of this document or confirmed its existence.)

In the reported manifesto, which allegedly had "666" scrawled across it, the source says, 26-year-old gunman Chris Harper Mercer wrote in detail about his desire to "serve darkness."

"The guy did this strictly for satanic purposes," the source tells PEOPLE. "He did it to become a god in hell. He wants to be evil. That is his goal, to serve Satan." Mercer allegedly singled out Christians during his massacre, asking people to state their religion and shooting those who identified as Christians in the head.

www.people.com...

a reply to: Stormdancer777

So not an atheist then?.
A person who believes in a Christian God and Satan.....
Another person who has used religion as an excuse to kill then eh?.
Or just a nutjob...

a reply to: boymonkey74

It isn't hate it is defiance!.
It is defiance of something that holds back the human race the human spirit and the human soul.
For to long has silly superstition ruled over us we can find god ourselves you don't need religion and it's dogma.
We as a specie have a chance to break free of the old and embrace the new because we are all one people now, we can learn anything at the touch of our finger tips, where once their was darkness and religion we now have science and reason.
Gods still about in my view and proud we are waking up to our potential.
Religion wants to kill us all off by telling us the end is nigh well I say never we are destined for the stars and to evolve into whatever we want we are brill we are freaking awesome we are blooming human chuffing beings!!

Humanity FTW.

If he was a satanic atheist, then apparently gods or no gods doesn't matter.

a reply to: Stormdancer777

Did you listen with the music playing lol.
I was drunk on scotch!!.