The Bible Taught us a lot of Astronomy

a reply to: FearYourMind

No such terminator exists though. Light doesn't stop being light and become dark, it fade out. We've all watched sunsets before to know how light works. This is probably the most ridiculous interpretation I've ever seen. It isn't scientific.

originally posted by: FearYourMind

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: FearYourMind

If I were to walk up to you and say that there are two lights in a room lighting it up, would you EVER assume that it was actually one light bulb and a mirror reflecting the light bulb's light?

No, because we are talking about the moon. You can see the different phases of the moon and it would make perfect sense that something is reflecting off of it. To this day people believe there is a "Dark Side" of the moon which is false. All of the moon gets a equal amount of sunlight for the most part. So, if I walked up to you and said that a room had a light bulb and another round object half lit what would you assume?

Before I was instructed about where the light from the moon came from, -I- didn't figure it out on my own.

As for the answer to your question, a half-lit object would have to be interpreted as dim because there is no such thing as a half-lit anything. Lights are either on or off. So if I figured you meant dim, I'd say there are two lights in the room.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

The Mayans figured it out, so why not others?

originally posted by: soulpowertothendegree
a reply to: FearYourMind

I would venture to say that before the so called bible was written that astronomy was already in use, at least, the people of this planet were not sitting around waiting for the bible to teach them about the Universe and all the glory that entails.

The number of stars is not countless, but it is not ever going to be accurate because as we speak there are 1000's more stars being born every second.

So they are countless because so many stars are born and dying everyday. What we see through Hubble and other powerful telescopes around the world are only a fraction of stars. What we see from Earth without a telescope is only a small fraction of our own Milky Way. In Biblical days the stars would have been countless to man as God told them.

originally posted by: FearYourMind
a reply to: Krazysh0t

The Mayans figured it out, so why not others?

Newton figured out the laws of Physics, why didn't any other scientists figure them out? See how absurd that reasoning is?

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Newton didn't live thousands of years ago.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

I understand your point. I doubt we'll come to an agreement on this. I just find it fascinating that people thousands of years ago knew so much about Astronomy. Not just the Biblical people either, but many others.

a reply to: FearYourMind

Irrelevant. Your argument is illogical. Just because the Mayans were able to be accurate about Astronomy doesn't automatically mean that another ancient civilization should also have been correct about Astronomy.

a reply to: FearYourMind

That certainly IS fascinating and something that I have wondered about myself. It's always interesting to see what different circumstances can evolve different aspects of intellectua in a given society.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: FearYourMind

Irrelevant. Your argument is illogical. Just because the Mayans were able to be accurate about Astronomy doesn't automatically mean that another ancient civilization should also have been correct about Astronomy.

Tell me in all honesty. Is it the Bible that turns you off about all of this?

a reply to: Agartha

Pillars could refer to the many pyramid structures around the world or any other tall structure.

Shaking the edges of the Earth is just a metaphor. Many metaphors are used in the Bible. That scripture had nothing to do with God describing the Earth, but rather what he would do to sinners.

originally posted by: FearYourMind

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: FearYourMind

Irrelevant. Your argument is illogical. Just because the Mayans were able to be accurate about Astronomy doesn't automatically mean that another ancient civilization should also have been correct about Astronomy.

Tell me in all honesty. Is it the Bible that turns you off about all of this?

Nope. If you created a thread saying that the ancient greek pantheon was a guide to modern science instead, I'd be just as argumentative over that issue as well. There ARE things from the past we can say the ancients got right about science. Your example about the Mayans and Astronomy is one of them. The Bible, the Quran, the Torah, aren't examples of them. There is no way to argue around this. It's not about interpretation, because science isn't open to interpretation. Science is precise including the wordage.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: FearYourMind

Well what ever the entity in the kitchen is it does not seem to be malevolent, heck if its smiling at people it may only require a little company. Can i ask how old is the house in which you live? Sounds interesting!

Also if you seen demons as a child, what did they look like? And how did you know they were demons, im just wondering if the christian up bring you received(Me to by the way) possibly influenced your perception?

The man had a evil smile and eyes as well. This thing followed me everywhere I moved. It's my belief that my grandmother brought this from Iceland. We have family members involved in witchcraft and our ancestors date back to the Vikings who were some of the most murderous people to ever walk the face of the Earth. I believe this is a generational curse because others in my family have had their own issues with similar things.

I remember during one of my episodes seeing my head on the floor and I was chasing it around the house. I was about 8 years old then. My mother called a ambulance as she did many times when these things happened. Whatever it was really screwed me up. I was very anti-social in school and had a hard time. Now I'm 35 years old and have to take anxiety meds (clonzapam).

My mother and her 4 sisters use to experience terrifying things growing up as well. For instance, she would wake up in the middle of the night with something trying to jerk her out of bed by her hair. Her oldest sister denied it all until recently and has shared her stories of the haunting growing up. It's more like a poltergeist than anything.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: FearYourMind
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Just because your interpretation of these scriptures are different than mine doesn't mean the Bible didn't teach us anything about astronomy. I don't see how you can deny it. It is pretty clear to me that they were aware the Earth was round, floated in space and was in a expanding universe. You can interpret it however you want. That doesn't negate anything.

There is no such thing as differing interpretations in science. That is why you are wrong. You are trying to pretend like you can selectively interpret the bible to say that it agrees with science. Science doesn't work that way. Either something IS or it ISN'T science. It's not up to the reader to decide this.

Oh, is that why so many scientist have disagreements and argue over scientific theories so much? No, people have different opinions and interpretations. Now of course there are facts, but we are talking about a book written thousands of years ago that speaks of a circular Earth that hangs on nothing in a universe that is expanding.

a reply to: FearYourMind

And those claims are wrong. Like I said orginally, you are trying to give undo credit to the Hebrews for trying and failing to write about Astronomy. They got what they wrote about wrong and you are trying to say that they should be given credit solely because they wrote about it and SOME of the things they wrote about are KIND of like how science has determined they are.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: FearYourMind

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: FearYourMind

Irrelevant. Your argument is illogical. Just because the Mayans were able to be accurate about Astronomy doesn't automatically mean that another ancient civilization should also have been correct about Astronomy.

Tell me in all honesty. Is it the Bible that turns you off about all of this?

Nope. If you created a thread saying that the ancient greek pantheon was a guide to modern science instead, I'd be just as argumentative over that issue as well. There ARE things from the past we can say the ancients got right about science. Your example about the Mayans and Astronomy is one of them. The Bible, the Quran, the Torah, aren't examples of them. There is no way to argue around this. It's not about interpretation, because science isn't open to interpretation. Science is precise including the wordage.

It is about interpretation. Even the Mayans had their own. They would sacrifice humans during an eclipse to bring the sun back. Their calendar ended in 2012 for reasons we don't know. The Bible has been interpreted and re-written 100 times more or less. Who knows what else there is that we have yet to discover. It's mysterious and I find it valuable and interesting. It's part of human history and should be respected as such. Yet, people disregard every word and laugh at it. Why? Simply because it teaches us about God? There's so much more to the Bible than that.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

No, it's just because you make the circle argument, interpreting a circle as being flat. If I asked my daughter what shape the Earth was, she would say it's a circle, or round. Yet, you'll use the circle reference to imply that they thought the Earth was flat and even went as far as to say a circle is 2 dimensional. How did they even know the Earth was a circle to begin with? Regardless of whether they thought it was flat or not.

a reply to: FearYourMind

Right, they got plenty wrong as well, but they actually got things right as well. There are things they talked about with Astronomy that ARE correct. Even if their meanings for them are off. For instance, the Maya calender was directly linked to REAL astronomical events (it also didn't end in 2012, it only started over just like all calenders do when they reach their zenith). Though the Mayans also said that the planets were gods.

Most of the things that the Mayans got right about astronomy have to do with mathematics and numbers, which aren't open to interpretation.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

The Mayans also knew of stars that aren't visible to the naked eye or a regular 6 inch telescope. You would need Hubble to see them. So to me they also had some sort of divine intervention that taught them these things. Maybe not God, but aliens, fallen angels or whatever else that may exist in our multi-dimensional world.

a reply to: FearYourMind

Actually I'm using the Euclidean Geometry definition of a circle.

Circle

A circle is a simple shape in Euclidean geometry. It is the set of all points in a plane that are at a given distance from a given point, the centre; equivalently it is the curve traced out by a point that moves so that its distance from a given point is constant. The distance between any of the points and the centre is called the radius.

A circle is a simple closed curve which divides the plane into two regions: an interior and an exterior. In everyday use, the term "circle" may be used interchangeably to refer to either the boundary of the figure, or to the whole figure including its interior; in strict technical usage, the circle is the former and the latter is called a disk.

A circle may also be defined as a special ellipse in which the two foci are coincident and the eccentricity is 0, or the two-dimensional shape enclosing the most area per unit perimeter squared, using calculus of variations.