A New Day has Dawned , Jeremy Corbyn New Labour Leader , Tom Watson his deputy

originally posted by: gortex
I see the Tories have chosen to opt for the politics of fear straight away accusing Jeremy Corbyn of being a threat to national security ..... sad bunch.

They know no other way.

The Labour Party membership has increased by a further 15,000+ since the result yesterday.

The Tories are running scared.

originally posted by: gortex
I see the Tories have chosen to opt for the politics of fear straight away accusing Jeremy Corbyn of being a threat to national security ..... sad bunch.

I saw Cameron's tweet about him being a national security threat and a threat to your families security.

That's pretty strong stuff and as prime minister it's his responsibility to protect the nation from corbyn. I wonder if he intends using a drone attack to protect democracy? Very irresponsible of the pm to scaremonger the population.

a reply to: Cobaltic1978

I've never voted Tory but come on, put it into perspective folks.
250,000 Labour members voted for a far left socialist leader. There are what, 46 million potential voters in the UK so a mere 0.54% of the electorate actually voted for Corbyn.
...lol at the ecstacy for the result in this thread, he'll be gone way before 2020.

a reply to: grainofsand it seems your the most pleased about it, judging by your gleeful unfunny jokes.

originally posted by: woodwardjnr
a reply to: grainofsand it seems your the most pleased about it, judging by your gleeful unfunny jokes.

I'm indifferent because he isn't ever going to be PM so he's more of a sideshow attraction to me, but I do find the gushing love that Corbyn is leader quite amusing in this thread.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: gortex

Tell you this Cameron is a threat to our future generation far more than Corbyn ever will be to our national security.

End of the day if they are so worried regarding the security of our nation maybe they should stop bombing or stop sponsoring the destruction of other nations under the guise of bringing our particular brand of democracy, stability or control to places that dont want it and things may calm down somewhat.

While I would agree with that in principle, don't imagine peaceful conditions in the third world would equate to lower levels of mass immigration - this is the same old tired excuse pro-immigrationists use all the time. 'It's OUR fault; but for Western interventionism there would be fewer refugees (and therefore - by false inference - lower migration levels).'

BOLLOCKS.

www.express.co.uk...

The Labour leadership frontrunner dismissed calls for the party to advocate tougher border controls in an attempt to win back voters angered by the surge in mass migration over the last decade.

And he insisted that rapid population change in local communities was beneficial to youngsters because it helped develop "a very good understanding of the rest of the world".

Does that include the youngsters in Rotherham, Mr Corbyn?

a reply to: Scouse100

The NHS is going to be fully privatised long before the next election. My girlfriend is an A&E nurse; they use the relatively quiet admissions over the summer to gauge how winter is going to be and she's been totally overwhelmed, currently doing up to 16 hour shifts as well as having much harsher targets imposed as far as handover times, they're also taking in an excess of patients from different catchment areas.

If winter is worse as it usually is the NHS could easily collapse before the end of the year, at that point they're saying people will beg for it to be fully privatised just to save it.

a reply to: MagnaCarta2015

Interesting thoughts but I don't think it will happen .

originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: Cobaltic1978

I've never voted Tory but come on, put it into perspective folks.
250,000 Labour members voted for a far left socialist leader. There are what, 46 million potential voters in the UK so a mere 0.54% of the electorate actually voted for Corbyn.
...lol at the ecstacy for the result in this thread, he'll be gone way before 2020.

He received over 50% of the eligible votes from Labour Members, not the electorate.

Let's see what happens over the next few years.

At least Corbyn is genuine, unlike our Dave or the very right wing Farage.

originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: Cobaltic1978

I've never voted Tory but come on, put it into perspective folks.
250,000 Labour members voted for a far left socialist leader. There are what, 46 million potential voters in the UK so a mere 0.54% of the electorate actually voted for Corbyn.
...lol at the ecstacy for the result in this thread, he'll be gone way before 2020.

Lets put this in perspective :

Tory member votes (round 3) for cameron as leader 134,446 or 67.6%
NB there were only two condidates at this stage. After two MP only rounds ie ensured the members had only 2 MP preferred choices !
FYI Cameron got 28.3% round 1 (Davis got more 31%), 45% round 2, not exactly a resounding endorsement.

Labour member votes for Corbyn as leader : 251,000 or 59.5%
That was with 4 candidates so a majority much harder than with 2 candidates and thus all the more remarkable.
Even if you discount the recent registered (£3) supporters : 162,968 or 51.3%

DUH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Total number people who voted tory at election : 11,334,576
Total number of registered voters : 46,420,413
Percentage of country who elected Cameron : 24%

Please justify how the Tories have a mandate to rule when only 24% of the voting public voted for them ?

The Tories are petrified people stop believing the lies spread by the Daily Mail, Telegraph, Sun and Express.

a reply to: yorkshirelad

Lol, I don't disagree with your figures, I'm just saying that only 250,000 people in the country actually cared enough about Corbyn to vote him as their leader and you're all gushing love and happiness like he's gonna save the UK.
He is still a sideshow attraction to me, amusing 70's style socialist who will be gone well before 2020, and will never be Prime Minister.

I went to the bookies earlier, couldn't get a bet on when he will be stepping down, I'll try again somewhere else tomorrow.

a reply to: grainofsand there are 325,000 members of the Labour Party in the UK out of those members over 59% voted for Corbyn. Only members of the Labour Party can vote in a leadership election, it's not open to all voting age Brits it's Labour members only. I'm not exactly sure how the Tory parties do there leadership election. The Corbyn election as leader has probably been the most democratic leadership contest in labour history. The trade unions used to have much more influence. Now it's just Labour members.

a reply to: woodwardjnr

Oh I'm well aware of that, of course, but aside from those die hard redski's in the Labour party membership the majority of the country will not be voting for Tom and Jerry's left wing policies. Dreamland is the only place you'll see Corbyn forming a government and singing the red flag song lol.

a reply to: CJCrawley

I understand the immigration issue we face. End of the day charity begins at home. Need to sort out our own socioeconomic mess before we attempt to help people from other nations. Implement a living wage of sufficient means regarding our own people never mind build affordable acomodation for the population we already have before attempting to help others. Least that seems logical to me. All the same it would certainly help if we stopped interfering in foreign affairs that fankly don't concern us.

originally posted by: MagnaCarta2015
a reply to: Scouse100

The NHS is going to be fully privatised long before the next election. My girlfriend is an A&E nurse; they use the relatively quiet admissions over the summer to gauge how winter is going to be and she's been totally overwhelmed, currently doing up to 16 hour shifts as well as having much harsher targets imposed as far as handover times, they're also taking in an excess of patients from different catchment areas.

If winter is worse as it usually is the NHS could easily collapse before the end of the year, at that point they're saying people will beg for it to be fully privatised just to save it.

I seriously hope not, I don't think it could ever be pulled back again. Privatising it is not saving it, once privatised it's no longer the NHS.

Lol so funny but Corbyn is never gonna get voted in as PM not as long as he's got a hole in his backside. I'm a northerner what once upon a time you would call working class. But times have moved on we're now just Joe Public trying to eek out a good standard of living and to be honest lots of us are doing it. Which upsets all the left wing liberals. Milliband was a waste of a vote this guy is just a train wreck. So I'm gonna fall in line with what you leftists would call working class and vote UKIP you really are out of touch. Probably the university campus that taught you to be a good militant but get in the real world your working class heroes don't need Corbyn we've all grown up.

a reply to: redchad

we've all grown up.

Translation:
All been brainwashed into thinking traditional left wing politics are no longer relevant to our times, and that working class students who can't afford to live in the towns and cities they grew up in are militants for wanting a fairer society.

originally posted by: redchad
Lol so funny but Corbyn is never gonna get voted in as PM not as long as he's got a hole in his backside. I'm a northerner what once upon a time you would call working class. But times have moved on we're now just Joe Public trying to eek out a good standard of living and to be honest lots of us are doing it. Which upsets all the left wing liberals. Milliband was a waste of a vote this guy is just a train wreck. So I'm gonna fall in line with what you leftists would call working class and vote UKIP you really are out of touch. Probably the university campus that taught you to be a good militant but get in the real world your working class heroes don't need Corbyn we've all grown up.

You are right of course, Corbyn isn't a Bildrberger, so he won't become Prime Minister if we remain in the E.U. But at least he will offer decent opposition and not an opposition that will simply abstain from voting. With the thin majority the Tories have it will certainly make them think about further austerity.

The 2020 election will be of great interest.

As Dodgy Dave will no longer be leader of " The Nasty Party ", Corbyn could well find himself pitched against " Boris The Baffoon"

Two unelectable leaders of their respective parties.

originally posted by: alldaylong
The 2020 election will be of great interest.

As Dodgy Dave will no longer be leader of " The Nasty Party ", Corbyn could well find himself pitched against " Boris The Baffoon"

Two unelectable leaders of their respective parties.

Yes quite, but Corbyn will be gone well before then.
...you heard that prediction here on ATS first lol