Muslim Refugees Chant “Allahu Akbar,” “F*** You,” Attack Citizens and Throw Feces

a reply to: FlySolo

Thanks for the reply....Well that's disturbing all right,these people keep this crap up and it will end very badly for them.....

Interesting times indeed...

a reply to: FlySolo

I haven't seen that video before, and I see you researched when and where it is from, and it isn't recent.
But as I watched it, I felt no surprise at all, because this is a rather common occurance here in France.
You guys are more likely to see events of this sort that happen in Paris - because for a lot of foreigners Paris IS France - they forget it is just one city in the country.

In the city next to our village, when I was working there, I watched this kind of thing happen a few times. Once was in revolt because three young arab men attempted to rob a small grocery store, one of them had an axe, and as the other yelled for him to kill the store owner, he rushed forward swinging it, and the store owner grabbed a gun from under the counter and shot him.

The two others took the shot man and drove away with him, dropping him off on the side of the raod to die.

Subsequently, the store owner was arrested. Under french law, you can only defend yourself with a weapon that is equal to the one you are threatened with - he could only fight back with an axe.

But the local arab population rose up because of the shooting, and did this sort of violence, burning cars, rioting in the street. None of them found any fault with the young men robbing a store, or trying to kill a man, or leaving their friend to die - the objetion was that one of them was shot (and that it was an act of racism).

This is common crap here, and why I sometimes get impatient with the posters here who do not understand the current environment and conflict. I don't know what will happen with this new surge in refugees.... but imagine them meeting our current population of muslims, and how they might be influenced......

a reply to: tony9802

not sure if it has already been posted in this thread, but here's a more detailed relation of some of the events:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

actually, it's your own thread.

originally posted by: Bluesma
a reply to: FlySolo

ting in the street. None of them found any fault with the young men robbing a store

Kind of like how none of you find any fault in the western governments that have a large part to play for this crisis. No, lets just ignore the facts and play "hate the muslims"...typical day on Liveleak...i mean ATS

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: Bluesma
a reply to: FlySolo

ting in the street. None of them found any fault with the young men robbing a store

Kind of like how none of you find any fault in the western governments that have a large part to play for this crisis. No, lets just ignore the facts and play "hate the muslims"...typical day on Liveleak...i mean ATS

ok i ask you. Would you rather be a hammer or a nail? I really do not know what kind of universe you live in. Humans are not very nice. We are not hive mentalities. We are selfish. We are individuals who only cooperate for the individuals common good. Thats why war exists. We fight for the best habitats and always have. In my experience any sign of weakness is quickly exploited in any walk of life.
So would you rather be a hammer or a nail?

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

I have never been more ashamed to be an ATSer than this lat 2 weeks.

Go somewhere else then. Plenty of places on the innerwebs.

8 pages now and STILL not in the Hoax bin? Guys the videos in the OP's article are OLD! As in 5 or so years old. Those videos have NOTHING to do with what is currently going on in Europe.


Ugh... Anything to inspire fear in the populace... Gotta keep that Muslim hate train going...

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
8 pages now and STILL not in the Hoax bin? Guys the videos in the OP's article are OLD! As in 5 or so years old. Those videos have NOTHING to do with what is currently going on in Europe.


Ugh... Anything to inspire fear in the populace... Gotta keep that Muslim hate train going...

Now you are advocating censorship. Best thing is access to all information and not just your information. You would make an good dictator, i noticed that

Now back to topic. The problems in the countries these people come from is that they over populated. One man has 17 kids, then those kids have 19 children, these are tribes on their own.

The truth is, religious fundamentalists are hard to deal with. If they were pouring into any country, say asian countries like korea, china or japan, for an example, dont you think they would be concerned?

The truth is Europeans have been good stewards in regard to populations. How to feed all those people? As parents how do they care for a dozen children. How do their governments provide them with jobs? They can't, so this is where the problem stems from. No self control in the men and these are male dominated systems they are coming from.

originally posted by: Harvin

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
8 pages now and STILL not in the Hoax bin? Guys the videos in the OP's article are OLD! As in 5 or so years old. Those videos have NOTHING to do with what is currently going on in Europe.


Ugh... Anything to inspire fear in the populace... Gotta keep that Muslim hate train going...

Now you are advocating censorship. Best thing is access to all information and not just your information. You would make an good dictator, i noticed that

Um... No... You can still discuss things in the Hoax bin to your heart's content. You can post in any of the threads there. You just can't star and flag anything.

Now back to topic. The problems in the countries these people come from is that they over populated. One man has 17 kids, then those kids have 19 children, these are tribes on their own.

The truth is, religious fundamentalists are hard to deal with. If they were pouring into any country, say asian countries like korea, china or japan, for an example, dont you think they would be concerned?

No.

The truth is Europeans have been good stewards in regard to populations. How to feed all those people? As parents how do they care for a dozen children. How do their governments provide them with jobs? They can't, so this is where the problem stems from. No self control in the men and these are male dominated systems they are coming from.

Meh. This is just a repackaged anti-immigrant argument. I've seen all these points before.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
8 pages now and STILL not in the Hoax bin? Guys the videos in the OP's article are OLD! As in 5 or so years old. Those videos have NOTHING to do with what is currently going on in Europe.


Ugh... Anything to inspire fear in the populace... Gotta keep that Muslim hate train going...

The videos in the op inspired a discussion on a topic. They are not central to my opinion nor view on it.
I didn't even watch them, I now realize why someone replied to me with some reference to Infowars, which confused me.

The situation happening over here is not a hoax though, so putting discussion about it in the hoax bin would seem very suspicious to me. But that is just my opinion.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Harvin

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
8 pages now and STILL not in the Hoax bin? Guys the videos in the OP's article are OLD! As in 5 or so years old. Those videos have NOTHING to do with what is currently going on in Europe.


Ugh... Anything to inspire fear in the populace... Gotta keep that Muslim hate train going...

Now you are advocating censorship. Best thing is access to all information and not just your information. You would make an good dictator, i noticed that

Um... No... You can still discuss things in the Hoax bin to your heart's content. You can post in any of the threads there. You just can't star and flag anything.

Now back to topic. The problems in the countries these people come from is that they over populated. One man has 17 kids, then those kids have 19 children, these are tribes on their own.

The truth is, religious fundamentalists are hard to deal with. If they were pouring into any country, say asian countries like korea, china or japan, for an example, dont you think they would be concerned?

No.

The truth is Europeans have been good stewards in regard to populations. How to feed all those people? As parents how do they care for a dozen children. How do their governments provide them with jobs? They can't, so this is where the problem stems from. No self control in the men and these are male dominated systems they are coming from.

Meh. This is just a repackaged anti-immigrant argument. I've seen all these points before.

So basically you are saying that any subject that bothers you should be in the hoax bin or you are going to whine, make accusations, be disruptive, derail, deny, obfuscate and obliterate? This is a all over the MSM right now. You know any country would be concerned. What do you think the countries i listed would do? What would the citizens do when they are inundated with people? Why dont they go to those countries? If they like the European lifestyle why dont they conform to it?

a reply to: Harvin

No, I'm saying any discussion that starts with premises that are obviously hoaxes should be in the hoax bin. This discussion is one of them. It's not like I go into EVERY ISIS thread and say they should be put in the Hoax bin.

And like I said, you are just rehashing standard anti-immigrant rhetoric that I see all the time here in the states. "they should conform to OUR lifestyle!" "we don't have room for them!" Blah blah blah.

Videos are old. nothing to do with current situation. just same old lets find a picture or a random put some words next to them and get the community to share on facebook britain first bull#

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Harvin

No, I'm saying any discussion that starts with premises that are obviously hoaxes should be in the hoax bin. This discussion is one of them. It's not like I go into EVERY ISIS thread and say they should be put in the Hoax bin.

And like I said, you are just rehashing standard anti-immigrant rhetoric that I see all the time here in the states. "they should conform to OUR lifestyle!" "we don't have room for them!" Blah blah blah.

Seems like you are being deceptive on all accounts, you didnt answer one question i asked earlier, this is very typical.

What is the hoax here?

These cultures can be very domineering and unbending. Then there are crime problems, harassment issues, over crowding issues, unemployment issues, more crime issues, changing demographic issues, losing culture issues. Of course, any region would be concerned.

Do you think they would just walk right into an asian country?

a reply to: Krazysh0t

This is really happening. Maybe you are just not aware of the huge problem this flood of people is for us?
We really do not have the resources and abilities available for so many at a time. (I mean, my experience and knowledge pertains specifically to France, Italy and Greece).

The situation is a mess and gaining in violence.
The thread here - www.abovetopsecret.com...
has more recent footage and reports, but each hour, the reports are getting worse.

In Greece they were chanting "Jihad, Jihad.."

But I guess that's fine, too.


Starting at 0:24

originally posted by: Harvin

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Harvin

No, I'm saying any discussion that starts with premises that are obviously hoaxes should be in the hoax bin. This discussion is one of them. It's not like I go into EVERY ISIS thread and say they should be put in the Hoax bin.

And like I said, you are just rehashing standard anti-immigrant rhetoric that I see all the time here in the states. "they should conform to OUR lifestyle!" "we don't have room for them!" Blah blah blah.

Seems like you are being deceptive on all accounts, you didnt answer one question i asked earlier, this is very typical.

Of course I didn't answer them. I'm tired of answering them. I JUST told you that those questions are just rehashed anti-immigrant rhetoric.

What is the hoax here?

That the videos in the OP aren't true. I already told you that. Are you not listening?

These cultures can be very domineering and unbending.

Apparently, so can you. "These people should adopt OUR culture if they move to MY country. Nevermind the fact that it is a free country where people are allowed to do whatever they want as long as it is legal, they have to behave as -I- want them too!"

Then there are crime problems, harassment issues, over crowding issues, unemployment issues, more crime issues, changing demographic issues, losing culture issues. Of course, any region would be concerned.

Ah yes, the typical, "immigrants bring tons of crime with them!" rhetoric. So typical...

The Mythical Connection Between Immigrants and Crime

That link is talking about America and Mexicans, but I'd bet that there isn't much difference when talking about Europe and Muslims. Muslim terror attacks in Europe are super low.

Do you think they would just walk right into an asian country?

The Middle East is IN Asian buddy.

a reply to: Bluesma

I never said it wasn't happening. I said the videos in the OP are a hoax because they were originally filmed in 2010 and are being re-purposed to incite Islamophobia among Europeans. Something you seem to be adverse from addressing.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

As far as the "The Middle East is IN Asian buddy. " comment - I was more specific in the other post but you are avoiding that? Next you will be telling me about the American Indians.

Discussing this with you is getting a little annoying. The fact is that crime rates do go up and this is going to be a huge problem down the road over there.

The statistics all bear that out.

Here is a quick link from a search that took 2 seconds:

LINK

a reply to: Harvin

Your source is a wikipedia link that cites a study that ended in 2001? That's not exactly relevant.

Discussing this is with me is annoying you? Oh well. This whole topic annoys me. Too much Islamophobia and immigrantphobia mixed in with these discussions.

I can never understand why people are so damn mean to people fleeing devastating conditions in their homelands...