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originally posted by: FlySolo
a reply to: UnBreakable
Because they all know ISIS is a farse. Crap, of all people, it should be Israel don't you think?
originally posted by: Bluesma
originally posted by: TinfoilTP
Because they are ignorant and blame a long gone time of colonialism from a time before they were ever born. They are vessels of hate, ignorance, and religious extremism engrained into their very being from childhood. They don't even need to be members of Islamic State to hate their new benefactors, but they will make great recruits for them, especially after they settle in and start breeding more copies of their ignorance.
While that may be true of some, I know it is not true of all.
Up until this most recent wave of Syrians, they have been mostly young males from Africa arriving. They have been the biggest problem. Young men often have a chip on their shoulder, in any culture, but when they are also fighting their feeling of powerlessness by striking out against those they feel are not, it is exagerrated (and yes, I suspect, might add to the current problem of being recruited by the extremists).
This recent wave of Syrians has more complete families (women and children included), and though they are fleeing a horrible situation, they have already heard how well the european countries welcome and provide for immigrants - and that is what they expected, and why they are pissed. The problem is that the numbers are so huge, we are unable to provide the same sort of aid that we usually do!
I've already volunteered to house a family at my home, but was told the potential providers are being carefully screened first - to protect the immigrants themselves from just being handed over to unscrupulous people, or those who don't really have the means to provide a decent situation. They said it will take time.
originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: FlySolo
Lol, Israel has refused to take a single refugee, nobody seems to bitch about it though.
I wonder why.
originally posted by: UnBreakable
originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: FlySolo
Lol, Israel has refused to take a single refugee, nobody seems to bitch about it though.
I wonder why.
To counter, would any ME country ever take an Israeli refugee if it ever came to that? Doubtful.
originally posted by: joemoe
a reply to: tony9802
The scary thing is this whole situation is a perfect Trojan horse scenario for ISIS to infiltrate Europe and perhaps beyond.
originally posted by: 3danimator2014
originally posted by: UnBreakable
originally posted by: 3danimator2014
originally posted by: Glinda
a reply to: Bluntone22
I fear for those little girls (no doubt hungry) who take the offered food. What sort of punishment did they get for taking needed food. Were they beaten or worse?
And the ATS muslim hate train keeps rollin rollin rollin...
How is that ATS hate? Their treatment of women/girls is cultural.
"And the muslim hating women train keeps rollin rollin rollin..." Fixed.
I depsise Islam. I also despise all religions but i really dont like Islam. And im Lebanese! But i have a lot of wonderful muslim freinds, grew up half my life in the ME and i KNOW that most muslims are the friendliest, most generous people in the world who would rather give you the little food they had than eat themselves. You dont have to belive that from me, just ask anyone whos been to the middle east. Arabs are famous for their hospitality. I know a lot of them and they are wonderful people. yes, i agree there treatment of women is disgusting, and its why i hate Islam more than Christinity...but what we do about it?
These isolated scenes are not what muslims are normaly like. These are exceptional circumstances. Im NOT making excuses for them. Some of them are acting disgustingly. I can see that.
But can you guys not understand the fact that this is still a fraction of muslims and muslims in exceptionally difficult circumstances at that. Hating them, loathing them and getting mad when they dont eat non halal meat is just pushing the hatred that got us ALL in the fix in the first place.
We need calm and reasoned understanding in times like this. Any trouble makers will be dealt with...but by turnign this into
Us Vs Them is exceptionally dangerous in times like this.
We get grumpy when our flight is delayed and we get home a few hours late after siting on a hot plane..please try to think what these people have been through..At home, on the seas and here in Europe. Wold you be friendly if you saw your kid or your wife or your best friend slip into the sea at night? You would be the model of pliteness and calmness right? Come on guys...get real
What is the point of coming online and spouting hatred? Do you guys feel better? Do you go home and love your wives and kids more because you hated some poor unfortunate people today..
Its sick what some of you have been spouting since this began. Is this ATS, a place where there are a huge number of very bright and educated and open people or is this Liveleak comments?
originally posted by: 3danimator2014
originally posted by: UnBreakable
originally posted by: 3danimator2014
originally posted by: Glinda
a reply to: Bluntone22
I fear for those little girls (no doubt hungry) who take the offered food. What sort of punishment did they get for taking needed food. Were they beaten or worse?
And the ATS muslim hate train keeps rollin rollin rollin...
How is that ATS hate? Their treatment of women/girls is cultural.
"And the muslim hating women train keeps rollin rollin rollin..." Fixed.
Do you go home and love your wives and kids more because you hated some poor unfortunate people today..
Its sick what some of you have been spouting since this began. Is this ATS, a place where there are a huge number of very bright and educated and open people or is this Liveleak comments?
originally posted by: TinfoilTP
originally posted by: UnBreakable
originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: FlySolo
Lol, Israel has refused to take a single refugee, nobody seems to bitch about it though.
I wonder why.
To counter, would any ME country ever take an Israeli refugee if it ever came to that? Doubtful.
None of them ME countries would even take the Palestinians, left them on resourceless strips of land and perpetual refugee camps to rot. That is why the Syrians are fleeing, they don't want to be the next Palestinians.
originally posted by: TinfoilTP
You've got to be kidding?
The German govt is more concerned screening their own citizens who offer their homes than screening blocks of half a million in radical humanity?
Your evidence you offer shows how the situation is destined for failure.
originally posted by: Bluesma
originally posted by: TinfoilTP
You've got to be kidding?
The German govt is more concerned screening their own citizens who offer their homes than screening blocks of half a million in radical humanity?
Your evidence you offer shows how the situation is destined for failure.
No, I am in France. They don't want to be accused of handing families over to bad situations, or abuse.
It sounds crazy, but I guess it is totally possible that the situation could easily degrade into these desperate people becoming slaves for the unscrupulous....
originally posted by: FlySolo
a reply to: grainofsand
That would be a sausage party. No thanks
originally posted by: UnBreakable
originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: FlySolo
Lol, Israel has refused to take a single refugee, nobody seems to bitch about it though.
I wonder why.
To counter, would any ME country ever take an Israeli refugee if it ever came to that? Doubtful.