Official spokesperson from Secret Space program about "big picture", Aug 31/15 (Randy Cramer)?

originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance

originally posted by: andrewh7
...but this guy is just insane or lying.

Gee, you think? The fact that anyone actually believes this idiocy is mind boggling.

From someone who's avatar shows an open mind...........I think you should change that or live up to its promise.

Also your judgement and maybe anger indicate much ego, a very low vibrational state. You should heed the message of the Sphere Being Alliance.

UFO's, crop circles, abductions, animal mutilations - we have thousands and sometimes hundreds of thousands (in the case of UFO's) of reports from all around the world, spanning decades and in fact going far back into antiquity - you would have to be in denial to say an ET interaction with Earth was not one of the possible reasons. Following the FACT of the possibility, these claims are not so extraordinary.

originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE

From someone who's avatar shows an open mind...........I think you should change that or live up to its promise.

Open minded and gullible are two very different things.

a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

UFO's, crop circles, abductions, animal mutilations - we have thousands and sometimes hundreds of thousands (in the case of UFO's) of reports from all around the world,

Why must they all be related to the same origin? Is there any reason they can't be independent oddities?

I didn't realize Randy Cramer had a website or I would have included it in the OP - very nice looking, what I would expect of someone who had some significant resources - like the military behind him.

Randy Cramer, Secret Space program spokesperson

Here are some excerpts:

My knowledge is extensive, and I continue to learn and grasp the situation in a way that only can be seen from the internal machinations. Coupled with 20 years of experience from a very hands on military career makes me one of the most knowledgeable USMC s.s. officers, and as yet, the only one whom to be given the direct authority through his chain of command to make that knowledge available to the public and civilian government.

Since the USMC s.s command considers the weakening of our economy and the divisive political infighting as direct threats to national security, they have asked me to step forward and have encouraged me to offer my consulting services to assist my countrymen and the globe to make adjustments for better future technologies as well as restore legal and executive authority over ALL covert programs or risk further weakening of the US economy and social structure to devastating effect, as USMC s.s. national security assessments and projections show. Since it is the counter intelligence programs to keep secrecy that are at the heart of our social and economic symptoms of distress. These two things are intimately attached and one cannot be solved without the other.

Randy's story

I don't know. The guy seems very articulate and lucid, very well developed website, not selling anything, more sane than some of the posters on here that can do nothing but screech "he is insane", pounding on their keyboards, but can't even answer about the triangle craft posted on the previous page seen with night vision - hundreds of them.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

UFO's, crop circles, abductions, animal mutilations - we have thousands and sometimes hundreds of thousands (in the case of UFO's) of reports from all around the world,

Why must they all be related to the same origin? Is there any reason they can't be independent oddities?

Sure Phage, it goes both ways doesn't it? They could be independent or related, right?

a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

Yes.
Is there any actual evidence they are related? Or is any alleged relationship the product of assumptions that they are related?

We know, because you have stated it, that you pass your own assumptions on to your child as if they are fact. UFO "researchers" are no different.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE

From someone who's avatar shows an open mind...........I think you should change that or live up to its promise.

Open minded and gullible are two very different things.

Many think those who ignore the fact of UFO's, crop circles, animal mutilations, abductions are the gullible ones........trapped in their social conditioning. I feel compassion for them, for I was once there.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

Yes.
Is there any actual evidence they are related? Or is any alleged relationship the product of assumptions that they are related?

We know, because you have stated it, that you pass your own assumptions on to your child.

If you are curious about those phenomenon there are many threads about them on ATS, if you would like I can message you with some I think are excellent; however they are tangential to this thread and I only bring them up to illustrate the point that they COULD be related to an ET interaction with Earth, and given that the OP of this thread is entirely reasonable if not provable. After all this is ATS, not Scientific American, right?

a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

If you are curious about those phenomenon there are many threads about them on ATS, if you would like I can message you with some I think are excellent

Apparently, I have been here longer than you have. That will not be necessary.

and given that the OP of this thread is entirely reasonable

Arguable. Beginning with the fact that the "official spokesman" is completely unvetted yet you accept every word from him. That would be why this thread is in the forum it is.

a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

Anyone thinking that needs to go back to school. Not believing something can never make you gullible.

gul·li·ble
ˈɡələb(ə)l/
adjective
easily persuaded to believe something; credulous.

What you describe is the opposite of gullible. There is a word for that.

perceptive
[per-sep-tiv]
Spell Syllables
Synonyms Examples Word Origin
adjective
1.
having or showing keenness of insight, understanding, or intuition:

originally posted by: PlanetXisHEREand given that the OP of this thread is entirely reasonable if not provable.

What do you think is reasonable?

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

My guess would be "anything that sounds like aliens are involved with anything."

a reply to: Phage

Well he has not replied so it seems like he can't find anything.

originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE

Many think those who ignore the fact of UFO's, crop circles, animal mutilations, abductions are the gullible ones........trapped in their social conditioning. I feel compassion for them, for I was once there.

I resent the suggestion that someone who doesn't believe in unsubstantiated stories is "trapped in their social conditioning."

It's really a passive aggressive Ad Hom.

I used to believe in a lot of the UFO mythology and that was to a large extent the RESULT of "social conditioning" from exposure to popular science fiction both written and on the screen. It was from the open mindedness to start looking at things rationally that lead me to a different world view. I certainly don't have cognitive dissonance when reading stories like Corey Goode's. I've had high weirdness and sightings myself that I can't explain. Just because I don't believe a completely unsubstantiated story about giant blue jays controlling the solar system doesn't make me closed minded.

a reply to: DelMarvel

It's really a passive aggressive Ad Hom.

Correct. When people hold beliefs that violate even the simplest standards of common sense, they are desperate for validation from others. This is how the con men on the UFO circuit make their living. People are willing to pay good money to spend time with fellow believers. This confirms their bias. They then form an alternative culture that allows them to feel superior to those of us who have been brainwashed by society. It's a sweet gig, and thoroughly reprehensible in its exploitation.

a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

Slightly off-topic, who is the official spokesperson for secret CIA missions? If we have an official spokesperson for the secret space program, surely the US has someone who is the voice of covert operations against the Russians, for example. I mean, it makes sense - you can't have secrets without an official spokesperson to broadcast them to the masses!

Again with this guy? Sheeesh. Why? What single little piece of info backs it up?

As one who considers a "secret space program" of some magnitude a sure thing, and has even been considering our astr0's fairly wild assertions about one, I find this guy and his story totally unbelievable on so many levels I don't quite know where to start.... but some others already did a fine job calling this tall tail out.

I mean I could be wrong and this weeny might be exactly truthful... but I'd bet my little toe he's full of it... .heck, maybe my ring finger.

a reply to: Baddogma

I'd bet more than that. He'd just another in a long line of nutcases and liars churned out by Project Scamalot.

a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

Just so you know, he should be referred to as Brigadier General Smyth or General Smyth not Brigadier Smyth. If his actual title is Brigadier General, the 2 really shouldn't be separated as far as I know, but if you must shorten it General would be appropriate. Brigadier is like a qualifier for the General title, not a title in of itself. Like if someone was "Master Sergeant Johnson" you wouldn't call him Master Johnson, you would need to call him Master Sergeant Johnson.

I am not military so I could be wrong, but I am pretty certain I am right.

a reply to: WeRpeons

What makes you think that the information you're using to disclaim the OP's video isn't intentional disinformation to discredit Randy Cramer?

Can you prove it is?

Well let's see shall we...

How is it disinformation when telling the truth?

Randy Cramer has done right well discrediting himself without help from me.

nobody can't decipher what's true or not true!

Somebody can.

With CGI and other photo and video altering applications, it's easy to claim every photo of an unidentified flying object is manipulated.

That is because they are, or they are misidentified by many not knowing what their seeing.