You hear it all the time, but trust me it is right around the corner.

a reply to: iksmodnad

There have been enough UFO enthusiasts claiming "immanent Disclosure" over the past few decades that it now warrants it's own category of fiction..."Disclosure Fiction"...Your grammatical insecurities aside, you show promise in this space.

Any actual, literal evidence of any kind?...or perhaps specifics plus date of a "soft" or "hard" disclosure item so we can validate your inside knowledge?

Until then...Kudos for the creative fiction!

No disclosure. It's all wrapped up with other things various governments don't want anyone to know about.
a reply to: iksmodnad

a reply to: iksmodnad

I believe aliens exist, and I believe intelligent species are coming and going from here. But I don't believe disclosure is gonna happen in the way you describe it. I hope it does, but it's so unlikely that I feel it's never gonna happen. That's like expecting the U.S. to admit they covered up 9/11. Even if you don't believe 9/11 was an inside job, it's the same level of embarrassment for the U.S., and I think we can all agree that they just wouldn't throw themselves under the bus like that. The world hardly trusts them as it is, let alone if they were to admit to covering up the most important discovery of modern science for over half a century. That would spell the definite end of America as an international superpower.

The U.S. is far too proud a nation to ever come clean about anything it has secretly done in the past on behalf of their agenda (at least not willingly), let alone the alien conspiracy. You have to pry that sort of information from the government's teeth, and at great cost. They never just willingly admit that sort of controversy. So if the U.S. has indeed been involved in covering up the E.T. presence for the past 60+ years (and I believe they have), then it won't be from their mouth that you'll hear the truth. If there's one thing the U.S.A. has proven beyond a doubt in matters of great worldly importance, it's that they cannot be trusted. Not on a national political scale, anyway.

And even if they did admit the presence of aliens on earth - then I'd begin to wonder why they would do such a thing. Because America doesn't do anything that doesn't support directly or indirectly their national 'agenda' (whatever that may be).

Furthermore, if aliens are coming and going from our planet with the same level of ease as we traverse our own continents, then they are so far more advanced than us that I wonder if we could even communicate with them. I'm sure we could, given enough time and resources, but I wonder if they'd bother? I mean, we humans are only 2% different from primates (Tiny Genetic Differences Between Humans and Other Primates Pervade the Genome / Chimps vs. Humans: How Are We Different?).

If we are only ~1-2% different from a god damn chimp, and we're exploring space, then imagine what a species 1-2%+ more evolutionary advanced than us gets up to? Now don't get me wrong, I am not trying to trivialize human intelligence - personally I think it's incredible that we are so intelligent despite being so genetically close to primates. I don't think it's a put-down at all, I think it's something to be amazed at. But it does make you wonder. Any species who can traverse the cosmos at will and 'visit' our planet is not just a little bit more advanced than us, but dimensions more advanced than us. We'd be like monkeys using sign language to ask for an orange if we tried to have a meaningful dialogue with a species that advanced. It would be like a kindergarten child trying to comprehend Einstein's or Stephen Hawking's brain.

Whether that means we need to fear them or not, I don't know. Personally, I don't think so - because Einstein and Hawking didn't go around using their intelligence to beat up little kids and steal their candy, and I don't see why extraterrestrials would either. But if they do exist, and they make contact with us, I don't think it'll be anything like we can even imagine. While we are arguably more 'approachable' than primates, given that we are self-aware of our own conscious minds and can actually comprehend our own inferiority (which makes us an interesting creature, no doubt), I don't think it'll be a meet & greet like you describe. If it ever happens, terms like 'soft' and 'hard' disclosure will go out the window - I believe we as a species will be utterly speechless both literally and figuratively. It will be existential chaos for all political and spiritual institutions for a while after such an atomic bomb of knowledge gets dropped on us. It will not be 'soft' or 'hard', it will be downright crazy.

Now, with all that being said.... bring it on, I say. While I don't agree with your theory of impending 'disclosure', I still think it'll happen - just not the way you describe. So at the end of the day, I'm not disagreeing with you, so don't get me wrong. Just saying my opinion, for whatever its worth, since I've thought about this for a long time (and am aware of a lot of the same information sources you mentioned). But if it does not happen in our lifetime, then it will within the next few generations, I have no doubt. The only question is will this extraterrestrial life be willing and able to communicate with us?

But in the meantime, I still feel like we have more pressing concerns here at home to worry about. When we discover a family of chimps in the forest, we don't go out of our way to intervene and improve their lives and habitats (generally speaking). So why should we expect aliens to do such to us? It would be safer (for us as well as them) to stay at a distance, and only interfere with our ecosystem if an extinction-level event were imminent (man-made or otherwise). And that's assuming they're benevolent interventionists, and not malevolent or indifferent or strict non-interventionists.

So until we're on the cusp of our own destruction (or venturing far beyond our planet into other species' neighborhoods), then I don't see this happening any time soon. The idea that aliens would come here to shake our hands and share potentially disastrous technologies and esoteric knowledge with an under-matured volatile race like ours is more than a little absurd. And I know I sound like a pessimist here, but I'm not - I'm speaking as a realist. I would like to think that they could see through all that and realize our true nature as human beings is benevolent and creative - but all they have to do is watch our primitive prime-time (or perhaps more fittingly - primate-time) TV to realize that we are far from ready to be initiated into the intergalactic community (assuming that one exists, and assuming that they have any sense of self-preservation).

It's fun to think about though. And I hope I'm wrong I'd be as excited as any alien enthusiast to see a full-disclosure on TV. But that's a little too Hollywood for my rational mind to accept outright. I just can't see it happening, as much as I'd like to. It's far too 'easy' for such an epic and complex existential dilemma. And if it does happen, I'd have every reason to be suspicious of it. If aliens want to make contact with our species, they won't meet with our corrupt and untrustworthy political leaders. They'll speak to our scientists and philosophers and community leaders - our intelligent representatives - because they're the only ones who can calm & sway public opinion effectively. Not the President or the U.N. or NASA or any other politicized or militarized organization. Aliens are not politics; they're a cosmic existential concern that lies more in the realm of philosophy and science than agenda-driven politics and media (or military, for that matter).

I mean that's just it with this community, 39 flags for something that just says hey, we've slowly been seeing UFOlogy get more popular as our scientists venture into deeper space. And this is soft disclosure. You post as a skeptic and you get 4 flags and #loads of hate comments. But let's see what happens.

originally posted by: DarthFazer

You may have read that the "large greys" require full disclosure by 2015, this is in fact true. It is not just the large greys who have demanded disclosure but over a dozen of other species. The US government agreed to these terms in the mid 80's but there are many deep in the military industrial complex, who would rather go to war with the ET's than acknowledge their presence.

OK this is the part that always gets me. An advanced civilization travels across a sea of stars to make contact with Humanity but is thwarted by it's obsolete military hell bent on war instead.

So the "basketball greys" are not willing to uncloak the mothership over Detroit because they must respect the wishes/demands of General Striker whom is really big bad and scary ? LOL

This is preposterous. Im done playing this silly game ive been done since Greer's lazer light shows and alien moths of years past. Its not like we dont get one of these "trust me disclosure is coming blah this is legit blah" threads at least every week especially in the summer. With the same old alien urban myth talk rehashed every time to boot. Its no different than when christians claim Jesus is going to return and when you ask why has Jesus been taking his sweet time the answer is always blame satan blah Gods plan blah. But in this belief system its blame the Government.

Its like this , the occupants of those craft will never be revealed because They dont want to be known. Because they call the shots because we are and have always been at the mercy of these entities. Notice i wont call them aliens. Because i simply dont know who they are or what any more than you do op. These things have been with us since we wrote on the cave walls. It will always be this way just accept it. Some things are better left unknown others will never be known. The phenomena will always be beyond our grasp.

The facilitators the custodians the care takers have a job to do. There is no reason to have small talk with the work.

well said, as much as I'd like to see a diclosure. Lets just face reality, and as far as the religion/government analogy, that wad spot on. Couldnt agree more

a reply to: iksmodnad

How does the OP have 0 flags when this thread has 41?

a reply to: iksmodnad

OP is right. Aliens are coming and will be announced.... Next month.

I will even tell you the date they will come. September 23rd, 2015.

OP, I enjoyed every second of reading your post.

And I seem to be in the minority here, but I think what you have said makes a LOT of sense.

When I typically see one of these "disclosure" posts, I brace myself for the upsetting image of mental illness I am likely about to read. The posters often seem paranoid, irrational, and desperate. While you make some very tall claims, I don't see the contradictions the 7 pages before me seem to see. You seem lucid to me, and if its all made up, I would bet you are aware of that, rather then being delusional as the "disclosure is imminent" posters typically seem. However I would like to say that I want to believe you, and thus far have not seen any point strong enough to discredit your story.

A few people have said things like "the aliens would not have to get permission if they wanted to be disclosed". And this does not seem contrary to your narrative. In fact it seems implied that they will no longer seek earthly permission if we do not accommodate the previously agreed to terms for disclosure according to what you have said. It seems from your post, that they are indeed capable of forcing disclosure, but are hoping for a more diplomatic and less forceful conclusion. So this aforementioned criticism does not seem valid to me.

Ok Steven Greer. Now this puts a bad taste in my mouth. It hurts me that this character was so central to the week long hearings before congress, bringing one of the largest credible groups of people together to testify on UFO/Alien matters, and is such a buffoon. This man said he had a real alien body, and would make a movie with the footage, as long as people donated(crowd-funded) the movie. It was funded, and made. The Sirius Project I think. I have not been able to watch a full sitting of that movie even though I have tried twice. The guy is famous for charging people good money and delivering disappointment in return. However, that doesn't discredit you or your story. That damages his own reputation. There are a thousand charlatans selling fake ufo/alien stories, but that doesn't mean there are not aliens or UFO's. So his narrative is similar to yours, I don't like the flavor of that much, but that does not incriminate your story with an inconsistency.

Spirituality and Aliens = automatic discrediting. Ok, I get it. These posters are either atheist, or have a strong revulsion to the people who meditate/channel aliens, which historically formed cults. I don't like the channelers, or the soldiers of light, or any of that woo stuff either. I am also a former atheist, who believes strongly now in the afterlife, yet thinks every organized religion on the planet is pointless. I believe in god, and I don't think he is so insecure as to want or need worship. And I think dismissing anything to do with spirituality automatically because the major religions are bull#, is unscientific. We would not have scientists employed today, if we had already concluded all facts. Science is still developing, and it is still working very hard to explain consciousness. You can't dismiss spirituality or multidimensional existence when you haven't even started to conclude explaining the obvious material existence of life itself. We are still trying to explain life, science doesn't pretend it has.

Ok thats enough for one wall of text, I can't hit every criticism in the thread. But I really enjoyed the OP, and I think most people had already made up their minds before they read your post. I remain open to the possibility it is genuine, and hope that it is.

a reply to: iksmodnad

Stanton is a good guy I believe.

a reply to: alienjuggalo

Not saying because of aliens...but aliens.

a reply to: iksmodnad

Hey Thanks for posting, I wouldn't say I am a believer but more of a wishful thinker. I`d like to think there is something incredibly interesting and just freakin cool kept just out of view, several sources hint to that. It will be relieving to actually "know" than just consider the possibility.

It would be my hope that the universe is populated with many different races which a few maybe friendly enough to answer a million questions I`d try to refrain from blurting out at once. But I cannot help to think of the possibility that "They" may not be who "They" say they are, and that the possibility of what a few members have posted about is not the actual reality of what is going on.

Either way more info leads to the answer and patience is the best way to get one there.

But seriously, I think OP is thinking of aliens too much. Many of his posts going back years are about aliens.

There are many events going to happen next month that could be catastrophic, even without the alien angle.

33 major September events

It would be nice if alien saviors came, but don't bank on it.

a reply to: iksmodnad

You've got a strange apearance I've got to say that, and starting this thread claiming disclosure is around the corner makes sense. Your writing about it seems genuine and as I see that your flag counter stuck in some way seems like you are to some importance of this site I guess?

Although I've also seen such titles pass from time to time I have to be sceptical around these threads. As much I like to believe your story ,also hoping it to become true .Let's assume you're right and it's coming out as you say. And those grey aliens demand disclosure.,then they will be having allot trouble explaning what the abduction of people were good for without our human permission.

Disclosure will not coexist with all the questions people are going to ask and will lead to riots and many other things so there has to be some kind of national and international support centres to answer the questions people have.

But anyway we will see in time ..

so, what's stopping aliens to just land and disclose themselves?

they need corrupted psychopath war criminal governments' approval?

are you f..... kidding me?

in my opinion, since it didn't happen so far, it will never happen at all

What a load of old tosh...Seems someone was looking for attention..

The simple fact is that if you had some long standing deal with ET there's no reason to ever reveal it as that is the very reason to keep it secret. The only way we would ever find out is if ET wanted us to know or there was some unfixable mistake where it became impossible to gloss over it and we all saw them.

And that is even IF et exists...(in a walking / gliding / floating / on a hover board around the Earth way)

a reply to: iksmodnad

I don't think they are ET's, I think they fall more along the lines of demons. Don't really need disclosure for this one, I already had my jaw gaping moment as I witnessed two orange ufos at irregular speed, and flight patterns. Not to mention other events.


Im not really surprised by the existence of these entities as I also felt their presence in my room. Along with the "tiny feet* moving on my bed, ironically while I was in meditation (or trying to, and became aware my bed was moving ). I stopped meditating entirely to "avoid them".

Also had a sleep paralysis once which sometimes is attributed to them. But the question I have, what would happen after disclosure?

a reply to: iksmodnad

I think what you have shared is true.

Why?...because of my own personal experiences regarding UFO's and ET's.

I want (the big disclosure to happen)...planet earth needs a shaking up!

One of my dreams is...that UFO"s from other planets appear at the same time...hovering over Earth...and that they will be seen by many.

a reply to: TheLegend
I have mentioned on this site about picking another date for all of this. sept 23rd 2015 is my 50th birday. please stop trying to spoil it. What is it some kind of conspiracy.

On a positive note. If they had been in touch then somebody mentioned it would be with our scientist and community leaders etc. They could have avoided governments and military for decades and still be working towards peace for us all, (if they are here).
We paint it black and white and don't really look at the colours. They are reputed to be disclosing slowly and the government involved. All the evidence points the other way. The governments are searching for them and don't know who they are but know of their existence. That would make a lot more sense as they would be trying to peacefully disclose to the public without involving the lies and control and fear that would accompany gov disclosure.
They are here in peace and for our benefit. Why would they involve the 1% who are responsible for our predicament.
They have been helping to get people into positions that would help them to help us. That would take decades and more. I personally believe there is something more intelligent than us, (higher life form), that also resides with us on this planet.
That could be number 4 in my list of mental delussions though as I have no proof just believe.

a reply to: iksmodnad

Well, if any of what you describe is true, then I cannot see how it would ever be voluntarily disclosed.

If we're living with all these false beliefs and "ancient" (by comparison) technologies where we believe getting to Saturn is incredible -- and these so called ETs can travel in the wink of an eye, how INSULTED should we be?? How P*SSED off would the world be if some US govt body came out and said, "So, yes, ETs exist, we live on other worlds, been doing it for ages, didn't tell you. Soz".

I reckon something of that magnitude would cause a lot of violence -- not just between religions (heck, they don't need a reason to be violent) but to government bodies and people - people who have, apparently, be lying to us on THE greatest discovery of recent modern times.