Is There Evidence for Evolution? Show it to us.

originally posted by: vethumanbeing
originally posted by: rnaa
a reply to: vethumanbeing

vhb:
You'd have to encounter it (THE ABSOLUTE) and its locale; then return as a human to tell that story of the meet and greet. I would imagine once you achieved that highest level of enlightenment you wouldn't need to or bother to return to earth in any capacity; not even as a Prophet teacher.

rnaa: What you describe is known as a Bodhisattva.

Excellent and thank you for the clarification for others. Not sure the concepts are difficult in so much just unfamiliar (perhaps threatening) to the Westerner.

And yet Evolution is more much widely accepted by Easterners.

originally posted by: anton74

originally posted by: vethumanbeing
originally posted by: rnaa
a reply to: vethumanbeing

vhb:
You'd have to encounter it (THE ABSOLUTE) and its locale; then return as a human to tell that story of the meet and greet. I would imagine once you achieved that highest level of enlightenment you wouldn't need to or bother to return to earth in any capacity; not even as a Prophet teacher.

rnaa: What you describe is known as a Bodhisattva.

Excellent and thank you for the clarification for others. Not sure the concepts are difficult in so much just unfamiliar (perhaps threatening) to the Westerner.

And yet Evolution is more much widely accepted by Easterners.

Not India!?; you are saying the caste system is still very much in existence (untouchables)? You mean their concept of evolution only through repeated reincarnations. That is not a proper scientific evolution of the body examination, but one of repeated spiritual Karmic experiences. Totally different. The 'Karma experiment' hamster wheel of soul/spirit progression did not work.

originally posted by: cooperton

originally posted by: Barcs

originally posted by: cooperton

originally posted by: GetHyped
a reply to: cooperton

Apparently it's from a fictional TV show called Freaky Links, specifically the episode "Subject: Coelacanth This!".

You're referring to this one: powerpointparadise.com...

Read this link: powerpointparadise.com...

It explains both of the pictures; one is real, the other fake.

I'm sorry but that picture is an OBVIOUS fake. Either done with photoshop or older TV technology from back in the day. Loot at the guy's foot over the pterodactyl. It was obviously pasted over the picture. In the close up you can see the obvious marks around the foot that show it was pasted there and not part of the original picture.

Well no... the pictures were released prior to photoshop, or personal computers for that matter.. so there are only two options:

1) Movie-set fake
2) real picture

No, those are NOT the only 2 options.

mashable.com...

Photo manipulation goes far back before computers. Look at the one of the guy juggling his own head in 1880. That wasn't a movie set fake.

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
Let's say for the sake of argument it's legit. The purpose of keeping this under wraps by TPTB is...?

The same purpose that drives ALL false religion...

To keep the truth hidden.

The Illuminati have long known that if you destroy belief in God, people will cease to fear God and to obey the Ten Commandments. They then become pawns of the Illuminati, willing to serve money instead of principle, and carry out iniquities from sexual misdeeds to even murder.

In the Illuminati propaganda arsenal, the greatest tool for destroying faith in God has been Darwin's theory of evolution. I know some say "I believe in evolution and God." Nonetheless, countless people have become atheists from being taught the theory as "fact" - I was once one of them.

However, Darwinism cannot be challenged on morals alone. The public has been told evolution is "science," on a footing with physics and chemistry. Therefore Darwinism must be challenged on scientific grounds.

Darwinism is an Illuminati Scam

"Most of what is being taught in university classrooms today, in biology, and also in physics and mathematics, is actually not science at all, but essentially a variety of religious cult, whose immediate roots can be traced, among other things, to the Cathars and Bogomils of the medieval "dark ages"!

Darwin's so-called theory of evolution is based on absurdly irrational propositions, which did not come from scientific observations, but were artificially introduced from the outside, for political-ideological reasons."

Jonathan Tennenbaum: Toward a True Science of Life

originally posted by: kingofmd
I know most of you are thinking this was proven fake years ago, but the fake was a staged copy of the original.

Their real objective was to instill skepticism and raise doubts about that original photo! Whereas the 2001 TV program did use a couple of shots of the original photo, their permanent “Freaky Links” website has been promoting the fake photo ever since the 2001 TV series until today!

Why? To falsely dismiss and discredit the original photo as a fake, to confuse us just as Churchill’s doubles were meant to confuse wannabe German assassins.

So why is this photograph more dangerous? Because it obviously is a genuine photo of an 1864 Pteranodon shot down during the Civil War near Vicksburg! And such compelling evidence is clearly not allowed by the NWO, globalist, evolutionary “thought police”, and therefore it had to be “eclipsed” and discredited in a hurry.
Sepia photo clearly features an anatomically correct Pteranodon

According to the above Berkeley University quote, no one before 1900, (forget about 1864!) knew what an anatomically correct Pteranodon looked like! (except American Indians knew what their ‘Thunderbirds” looked like! See left pic) So for sure no one in 1864 could have faked a fancy prop like this, let alone use plastics or fiberglass to produce a photo as real as this one!

powerpointparadise.com...

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
Thanks for posting that article! I have debated those two pictures with some hard headed skeptics for literally years now, and they refuse to see the truth. The second, fake, picture was done for a program called "Freaky Links", but is nowhere near as authentic-looking for the men as is the first, and the "pterosaur" in the second looks like a collapsed kite. The first, though, looks remarkably real.

Some years back, my brother and I saw something that could have been one of these. It was late at night (very common for us), and we were outside talking. Saw something really large (6-10 feet) flying around across the street. Both of us were, and are, quite familiar with various water birds, bats, birds of prey, etc, and this was none of those. Plus, there was something really menacing about it. It scared us both, and we didn't scare easily. That particular event has already been detailed to a researcher in the field, and should be in an upcoming book.

Too many people report seeing these things to dismiss them out of hand.

originally posted by: Barcs
No, those are NOT the only 2 options.

mashable.com...

Photo manipulation goes far back before computers. Look at the one of the guy juggling his own head in 1880. That wasn't a movie set fake.

People do this all the time. They do not consider all of the options. It's exactly how belief in things like the supernatural came about - people would see a draft move a curtain or something and conclude it must have been a ghost.

a reply to: cooperton

Well no... the pictures were released prior to photoshop, or personal computers for that matter.. so there are only two options:

1) Movie-set fake
2) real picture

Or...

3) Pre-digital photographic manipulation. Photoshop is a digital photo manipulation software. Before digital photography was a gleam in its developers eye (before the digital photo developer was a gleam in his/her parents eye even) photographic manipulation was quite sophisticated.

You really don't have to be so confounded gullible, you know. It is really is possible to survive in the world with a functioning BS meter that can help you keep your feet planted in reality while your head travels the heavens.

originally posted by: Barcs


mashable.com...

Photo manipulation goes far back before computers. Look at the one of the guy juggling his own head in 1880. That wasn't a movie set fake.

It was not until 2001 that they were even able to (poorly) attempt to make a fake photo. How could they have faked the anatomy of a pteranodon in the 1870s when the anatomy of a pteranodon was mostly unknown? Especially when the anatomy in the real photo is precisely similar to a pteranodon:

originally posted by: Murgatroid

Wake up... stop defending a lie for the sake of your pride.

a reply to: cooperton

How could they have faked the anatomy of a pteranodon in the 1870s

How do you know the picture is from the 1870's?
Carbon dating?

a reply to: Phage

Some of the pixels look quite old.

a reply to: Murgatroid

That didn't answer the question at all.

originally posted by: Murgatroid
The Illuminati have long known that if you destroy belief in God, people will cease to fear God and to obey the Ten Commandments.

My belief in God was destroyed through years of study and research into my beliefs. No outside source prompted me to do so, or "lead me astray" so to speak. Now that I can look back on it, and observe the behavior of many of the religious, from outside of it, my position only gets stronger and stronger. I guess ill educated Christians are working for the Illuminati.

Shame on you Murgatroid!

originally posted by: cooperton



It was not until 2001 that they were even able to (poorly) attempt to make a fake photo. How could they have faked the anatomy of a pteranodon in the 1870s when the anatomy of a pteranodon was mostly unknown? Especially when the anatomy in the real photo is precisely similar to a pteranodon:



Wake up... stop defending a lie for the sake of your pride.

No, YOU wake up and start opening your eyes to the world around you. Photo manipulation had been a big thing since the 19th century. The spiritualism movement during the Victorian era is especially famous for its faked ghost and phantasm pictures used to provide "proof" of the powers of mediums during this time. Do you really believe the following photos are real? To say that photos could not be altered prior to 2001 is incredibly naive.

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
My belief in God was destroyed through years of study and research into my beliefs.

My belief in God was created by God himself in a matter of a few seconds.

Personal experience ALWAYS trumps human opinions.

All it takes is one supernatural encounter with God to show that study and research without experience is a total waste of time.

If you want to 'study' God, start by going directly to the source.

Or study those with hands on personal experience.

When you argue with reality, you lose - but only 100% of the time. ~ Byron Katie

originally posted by: WeAllDieSoon
The nature of the Truth is that not everyone hears it.

The proof of God is everywhere. Creation itself is proof.

Knowing the Truth and proclaiming it is not pride. I can provide evidence, which I already have, but proof is something that comes from God.

The truth is either God revealed the truth or He didn't. The truth is you have been given the ability to seek the truth. Where there is smoke...

Me, I know because I spent years seeking. My God has revealed Himself to me. He does that after you seek Him. He does it because He said He would.

You can't know if I am telling the truth, though. That is because God designed your reality so that it is up to you, personally, to seek the truth. If you hear it, and believe it, you will seek God. And then you will know what I know.

“Trying to prove God is like defending a lion, it don’t need your help, just unlock the cage.”

a reply to: Murgatroid

To each their own. God had ample opportunities to reveal himself to me beyond a shadow of a doubt, back when I was a Christian. However, he failed to do so. Perhaps, if your God actually exists, it was he himself who lead me astray.

originally posted by: peter vlar

No, YOU wake up and start opening your eyes to the world around you. Photo manipulation had been a big thing since the 19th century.

Ok so any photograph of a dinosaur is out of the question then, such as this Image of a dinosaur, because you will blindly disregard it as evidence by claiming it is fake. So, Let's check out some olde english literature:

True and Wonderfull

and The Winged Dragon of Essex

a reply to: cooperton

Just want to point out. In that picture of the man holding the dead creature, its head isn't hanging loose, and down. Implying it's not real.

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
a reply to: cooperton

Just want to point out. In that picture of the man holding the dead creature, its head isn't hanging loose, and down. Implying it's not real.

Sounds like you've held a pterasaur before... enlighten me. Any comment on the English "true and wonderfull" accounts of dragons?

a reply to: cooperton

Any comment on the English "true and wonderfull" accounts of dragons?

I have a comment,
They're cool stories. Nice stories.
I like the ones about unicorns and fairies too.

a reply to: cooperton

If your common sense doesn't tell you that Pterasaur isn't real, what good would any other comments I would normally be inclined to make do? Please, just continue picking and choosing etc. to back up your world views.

The same standard of evidence you apply to your beliefs, if applied to any other religion, would prove them as well. I'd say more, but I'm meeting Ganesh for dinner.

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer

The same standard of evidence you apply to your beliefs, if applied to any other religion, would prove them as well.

This doesn't prove my beliefs, it just disproves the validity of the theory of evolution.

originally posted by: Phage

I have a comment,
They're cool stories. Nice stories.
I like the ones about unicorns and fairies too.

(replace f with s to help translate into modern english)

“True and Wonderfull. A Difcourfe relating a ftrange and monftrous Serpent (or Dragon) lately difcouered, and yet living, to the great annoyance and diuers flaughters both of Men and Cattell, by his ftrong and violent poyfon, In Suffex two miles from Horfam, in a woode called St. Leonards Forreft, and thirtie miles from London, this prefent month of Auguft. 1614."

Can you find me a matter-of-fact description like this regarding unicorns or fairies?