Is There Evidence for Evolution? Show it to us.

a reply to: Phage

Having butchered a Basking shark I agree.

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
a reply to: cooperton

First picture is photoshop

Funny you say that. Check this out:

powerpointparadise.com...

a reply to: cooperton

Apparently it's from a fictional TV show called Freaky Links, specifically the episode "Subject: Coelacanth This!".

originally posted by: GetHyped
a reply to: cooperton

Apparently it's from a fictional TV show called Freaky Links, specifically the episode "Subject: Coelacanth This!".

You're referring to this one: powerpointparadise.com...

Read this link: powerpointparadise.com...

It explains both of the pictures; one is real, the other fake.

a reply to: cooperton

Let's say for the sake of argument it's legit.

The purpose of keeping this under wraps by TPTB is...?

originally posted by: odzeandennz

so neither have conclusive documentation to a point of absolue?

We have literally no documentation on anything 'to a point of absolute'.......do you really think absolute knowledge on a matter is required in order to discern the truth?

a reply to: cooperton

It explains both of the pictures; one is real, the other fake.

Not really. It says the source of one image is known, the other is not. It then jumps to the conclusion that the other is real.
That is not a logical conclusion.

originally posted by: cooperton
It explains both of the pictures; one is real, the other fake.

LOL! And why is that, exactly?

originally posted by: SuperFrog
originally posted by: vethumanbeing
originally posted by: Phantom423
a reply to: vethumanbeing

vhb: God won't reveal itself; tell us what we desperately want to know is all, *why are we here, who are we and where are we going*? Because of this reticence on ITS part to reveal itself in a manner we DEEM as believable enough we become edgy, soured and harpy-like in our insistence (want to know our status of being) so denied; devise or invent ways of explaining this system IT created to suit ourselves however ridiculous/stretched beyond normal comedic reasoning.

SuperFrog: But it seems he did not have issue revealing himself to someone who would be by today medicine most likely diagnosed as schizophrenic?!
Same with guy who made ark that we know would never be able to float or do what they claim it did...
So, if God is so secretive, why religions claim to know his will?????
How in the world you know how he built this rock if all evidence shows you are wrong and he does not look like a guy who likes to brag about his handy work??

The *Ingrained Dogmatist* knows God's will? If this is true those that are the believers OF; do understand Gods will is supreme and the idea of human self will goes out the window (enslaved instantly to a higher beings whimsical nature). One would hope not too harsh or murderous (more merciful).

a reply to: Siddharta
He is your boss as well, open with pure intent; a dialog (I am certain the entire truth of human creation will be revealed to you).

originally posted by: Barcs
a reply to: vethumanbeing

I have never claimed that it couldn't be both creation and evolution. I've said many times over the years that evolution vs creation is a false dilemma. It could be both. I just try to correct misunderstandings about the science when I see them. If you were just joking about the shark comments and stuff about the food chain, then I guess you got me there. Jokes on me, you got me to post facts about shark evolution and the food chain. Hopefully somebody will find it interesting.

I never claimed that it was ether or either ether (taking my thunder will you). I am of the thought its All of the Above (gradients of each). So, there is no disagreement AT ALL. Facts posted are always for the good (sharks are getting a bad rap). No joke on you intended; this was a fun energetic conversation and the *somebody* that found it most interesting was ME, thanks for playing along in injecting differing viewpoints (right/wrong or neither).

originally posted by: odzeandennz
wow, 41 pages of absolute drivel from both sides..

im still none the wiser on either a magic wizard in heaven or everything slowing molding into what they are today....

so neither have conclusive documentation to a point of absolue?
so it is then. accept it. man cant answer what is beyond him. why create dots just so we can connect them....

You'd have to encounter it (THE ABSOLUTE) and its locale; then return as a human to tell that story of the meet and greet. I would imagine once you achieved that highest level of enlightenment you wouldn't need to or bother to return to earth in any capacity; not even as a Prophet teacher. Jesus/Buddha/Mohammed need some reward cards from Home Depot (no one has done this for 10's of centuries). The physical art of accomplishing this (the mystical/magick art of the Prophet as it steps its being down dimensionally) from the highest form non-matter to the lowest heavy matter; has apparently been lost to undocumented or forgotten history.

a reply to: vethumanbeing

You'd have to encounter it (THE ABSOLUTE) and its locale; then return as a human to tell that story of the meet and greet. I would imagine once you achieved that highest level of enlightenment you wouldn't need to or bother to return to earth in any capacity; not even as a Prophet teacher.

What you describe is known as a Bodhisattva.

a reply to: rnaa

Yeah!

a reply to: GetHyped

3) The "soft tissue" is 75 million years old: ... www.smithsonianmag.com...

Thank you for that link! I vaguely remember the story from when it came out, but it was immediately hijacked by the Pre-Conceptual Scientists (i.e. YEC), so I figured that it was all bovine excrement and didn't pursue it further. There's my reverse bias working against me.

Its really fascinating to find that it isn't bovine excrement, and here is a link to some of her further findings a few years later: Controversial T. Rex Soft Tissue Find Finally Explained

a reply to: Phage

Perfectly on point. My other half is more into Steely Dan than I, I was sure I could find a Mahavishnu Orchestra piece discussing Bodhisattva, but all I could find was the Beasty Boys' "Bodhisattva Vow" which isn't my cup of tea at all.

So my offering of Carlos Santana and John McLaughlin's "Naima" is perhaps invocative of the Bodhisattva state of mind:

originally posted by: cooperton

originally posted by: GetHyped
a reply to: cooperton

Apparently it's from a fictional TV show called Freaky Links, specifically the episode "Subject: Coelacanth This!".

You're referring to this one: powerpointparadise.com...

Read this link: powerpointparadise.com...

It explains both of the pictures; one is real, the other fake.

I'm sorry but that picture is an OBVIOUS fake. Either done with photoshop or older TV technology from back in the day. Loot at the guy's foot over the pterodactyl. It was obviously pasted over the picture. In the close up you can see the obvious marks around the foot that show it was pasted there and not part of the original picture.

originally posted by: Barcs

originally posted by: cooperton

originally posted by: GetHyped
a reply to: cooperton

Apparently it's from a fictional TV show called Freaky Links, specifically the episode "Subject: Coelacanth This!".

You're referring to this one: powerpointparadise.com...

Read this link: powerpointparadise.com...

It explains both of the pictures; one is real, the other fake.

I'm sorry but that picture is an OBVIOUS fake. Either done with photoshop or older TV technology from back in the day. Loot at the guy's foot over the pterodactyl. It was obviously pasted over the picture. In the close up you can see the obvious marks around the foot that show it was pasted there and not part of the original picture.

Well no... the pictures were released prior to photoshop, or personal computers for that matter.. so there are only two options:

1) Movie-set fake
2) real picture

Let's say for the sake of argument it's legit.

The purpose of keeping this under wraps by TPTB is...?

I am unsure if the evil in this world is executed by an intentional entity, or just completely due to human ignorance.

Amazing really that people still fall for this stuff. Confirmation bias at work again.

originally posted by: rnaa
a reply to: vethumanbeing

vhb:
You'd have to encounter it (THE ABSOLUTE) and its locale; then return as a human to tell that story of the meet and greet. I would imagine once you achieved that highest level of enlightenment you wouldn't need to or bother to return to earth in any capacity; not even as a Prophet teacher.

rnaa: What you describe is known as a Bodhisattva.

Excellent and thank you for the clarification for others. Not sure the concepts are difficult in so much just unfamiliar (perhaps threatening) to the Westerner.