Tianjin was an act of sabotage and major escalation

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: mungbean

Maybe a secret bunker hit?

In all seriousness, are you being serious ?

another one?
the pendulum of coincidence seems to be swinging the other way.

a reply to: mungbean

I often speculate ideas if nothing else but to explore the variables.

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I just thought I would add this to the mix as history shows USA often helps its enemies

There was a another big explosion in Japan on tuesday, just a heads up folks. . . .

An explosion at a Syncrude oil sands processing site near Fort McMurray has interrupted operations at the facility.

Ryan Bartlett with the Alberta Energy Regulator says the blast happened early Saturday morning at Syncrude’s Mildred Lake site.

Bartlett says in an e-mail that the company reports that all workers are safe, no product has been released and no offsite odours have been detected.

Syncrude spokesman Will Gibson says a fire broke out at the Mildred Lake Base Plant’s upgrading complex and was extinguished by Syncrude firefighters.

Gibson says there’s no word on what caused the incident, nor is there an estimate on how much damage has been done.

He says only Syncrude employees are being allowed onto the base plant site on Saturday, and the company is asking its contractors to be patient while it responds to the incident.

“Part of that response will be a thorough investigation and we will release further information when it’s available. The safety of the people at our site is our top priority,” Gibson said.

www.theglobeandmail.com... 56896/

5 now confirmed dead in the new explosion in shandong ( the control of information about this new blast is being very very tightly managed )

CONROE-Explosions and a fire that rocked an oilfield drilling chemical company Friday apparently caused no injuries and by evening as the flames were extinguished investigators began to figure out what caused the disaster.

The explosions, first reported around 4:45 p.m. Friday at the 4300 block of South Loop 336 East, sent shockwaves across the area with billowing black smoke visible for miles. The ensuing fire burned down two metal warehouses used to store chemicals for Conroe-based oilfield drilling products manufacturer DrillChem Drilling Solutions.

"This is the first fire of this size that I've seen in a facility like this in my 14 years in Conroe," said Conroe Fire Marshal Mike Legoudes "It's pretty significant."

In a statement late Friday, Brandon Hayes, CEO of DrillChem Drilling said: "The facility was empty at the time of the fire and we are thankful that no injuries have been reported. We are working closely with local authorities to determine the cause of the fire and assess the extent of the damage.

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Guam - More fallout from the explosion earlier at Cabras 3&4, as the Guam Coast Guard, along with other agencies, were dispatched to help with a reported oil spill.
www.pacificnewscenter.com...

Three men were injured, one of them critically, after an explosion and flash fire Monday morning at an oil facility in Wyoming.

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A conflagration has engulfed Kuwait’s Shuaiba oil refinery, forcing the strategic facility to stop operations, according to the country's oil authorities.

An official at state refiner Kuwait National Petroleum Company (KNPC) has confirmed that Monday's fire led to the total shutdown of the Shuaiba facility, but said the incident had no casualties.

Kuwait’s official KUNA agency quoted Ahmed al-Jemaz, the acting chief executive of the KNPC, as saying that the fire broke out in the heavy oil unit of the refinery. Jemaz said all employees were evacuated as a precautionary measure.

No official statement has been issued on the potential cause of the incident while the KNPC officials were tightlipped on when the refinery would resume operations again.

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An explosion has occurred at an oil depot near an oil refinery in Kremechnuk (Poltava region).

According to the city directorate of the State Emergency Service of Ukraine, the explosion took place in a reservoir filled with leftover residual oil.

"There are no victims. The reasons for what happened are being established," the emergency service reported.

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MEXICO CITY—Mexico’s national oil company Petróleos Mexicanos has recovered from a sharp dip in production caused by an offshore accident earlier this year, but the nation’s sole producer of crude oil is still likely to miss an already reduced target for the year, recent company data suggest.

Oil production in August was about 2.26 million barrels a day, figures released late Monday show. Output had fallen to 2.2 million barrels a day after an April explosion and fire at an offshore platform in the Gulf of Mexico idled Abkatún oil and gas processing station, cutting output from March’s 2.32 million barrels a day.

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PanARMENIAN.Net - Baku-Tbilisi-Kars-Erzurum gas pipeline exlpoded in eastern Turkey, Anadolu Agency reports.

Local governor Gunay Ozdemir said the blast occurred in the early hours of Tuesday, Aug 4, in the Sarikamis district of Kars province; gas flow was cut in Yagbasan village for safety reasons.

"An investigation is underway into the explosion and the necessary measures have been taken," AA quoted Ozdemir as saying.

Last week, the Kirkuk-Ceyhan oil pipeline was attacked in southeastern Sirnak province, probably by militants from Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK).
www.panarmenian.net...

Afghanistan: Explosions at Gas Terminal Kill 11; 2 NATO Soldiers Shot

In Afghanistan, a series of explosions at a gas terminal in the western city of Herat have killed 10 children and one adult who were living in a nearby camp for displaced people. Authorities say it is not clear whether the explosions were accidental or the result of an attack

www.democracynow.org...

A 106-car BNSF Railway train was carrying oil from the Bakken to a BP refinery in Washington State, but when it reached Culbertson, 22 of the cars derailed and five began leaking crude.

When the cars derailed, a nearby power line was knocked over — a sure sign of imminent catastrophe.

Of course, train derailments and explosions are not strange occurrences these days. Such derailments have become an all-too-common consequence of North America's shale oil boom.

www.energyandcapital.com...

A natural gas pipeline near Jackson, Mississippi, burst into flames Wednesday morning, leaving wooded areas burned and a rare image on radar.

The blast spooked nearby residents, who saw the large, orange glow in the pre-dawn sky and began to ask about its origins on social media. Gulf South Pipeline confirmed the explosion was along a natural gas line east of the Barnett Reservoir, MSNewsNow.com reported.
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DURBAN - A key pipeline carrying fuel along the Durban coastline exploded late on Friday night, leaving several people injured and rocking homes and forcing the evacuation of areas like Merebank.
Sapref lays claim to be the largest crude oil refinery in Southern Africa with 35% of South Africa's refining capacity.
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Surely the frequency, intensity and strategical targeting of such vital infrastructure in the current economic/geopolitical climate is a good part sabotage and attack !!!

Ill repost part of my first post to show the parallels in history !
During wartime, one of the most effective weapons in any country’s arsenal is sabotage: attacking the war engine itself by crippling key supplies, manufacturing, strategic locations and even logistic routes.

Saboteurs are not always an obvious and visible enemy. Many are underground agents, unconnected to official military authorities. More often than not, though, they have been trained and unofficially sanctioned by intelligence agencies or senior members of the armed forces.

The German government turned to sabotage during World War I in an attempt to thwart U.S. trade with Europe. German agents working on U.S. soil targeted munitions factories and plants producing goods to be shipped to help the Allied troops on the battlefields of Europe.

Throughout 1916 a number of mysterious fires and explosions broke out but none as brazen as the attack on Black Tom Island, a 15-minute ferry ride from the southern tip of Manhattan.

On July 30, 1916, German agents set fire to a complex of warehouses and ships to halt the movement of supplies to Europe. The explosion rocked New York City, windows shattered in downtown Manhattan and the noise was heard as far away as Maryland. The property damage was estimated at $20 million (around $377 million today).

At the time authorities downplayed the incident and many ordinary New Yorkers were unaware they were under attack, despite the continued strikes on strategic facilities.

A few months later in January 1917 a fire at the Kingsland munitions factory in New York destroyed 1.3 million artillery shells. In March there was an explosion at the U.S. Navy Yard at Mare Island, California, involving barges filled with munitions, killing 6 and injuring 31.

While the attacks were aimed at forcing the United States to back out, they instead ended up being a significant factor in the eventual deployment of U.S. troops to Europe.

By World War II sabotage had evolved and become more sophisticated. Nations organized agencies who were trained to attack military targets and disable the enemy’s war effort.

Britain used sabotage to great effect by establishing the Special Operations Executive (SOE). One of their primary functions was the sabotage of enemy equipment, installations and means of production.

They ran secret training schools, where saboteurs were schooled in creating chaos and specially trained in unarmed combat and demolition, handling weapons and explosives.

One of the most successful SOE stings was Operation Jaywick where agents disguised as Malay fisherman snuck into Singapore Harbour and sunk 30,000 tons of Japanese shipping.

Anti-German resistance and partisan movements were also active saboteurs. By the end of 1942 around 200,000 partisans were attacking factories, military installations, railroads and bridges. Many of their actions were minor forms of sabotage, such as disabling German telephone lines.

Others were more advanced such as Groupe G, a sabotage team headed by scientists and engineers at the University of Brussels. They organized attacks on the Belgian transportation network, particularly railroads and waterways, electricity supplies and telephone communications. www.pbs.org...

I would really love to get back to the 3 acre crater that was hundreds of metres from the chemical warehouse in the Tianjin explosion and the various anomalies surrounding that event.

It's quite obvious this kind of stuff occurs regularly... I mean look at the article linked above. here is some text from the linked article.'

A CIA operation to sabotage Soviet industry by duping Moscow into stealing booby-trapped software was spectacularly successful when it triggered a huge explosion in a Siberian gas pipeline, it emerged yesterday.

Thomas Reed, a former US Air Force secretary who was in Ronald Reagan's National Security Council, discloses what he called just one example of the CIA's "cold-eyed economic warfare" against Moscow in a memoir to be published next month.

Leaked extracts in yesterday's Washington Post describe how the operation caused "the most monumental non-nuclear explosion and fire ever seen from space" in the summer of 1982. "In order to disrupt the Soviet gas supply, its hard currency earnings from the West, and the internal Russian economy, the pipeline software that was to run the pumps, turbines and valves was programmed to go haywire after a decent interval, to reset pump speeds and valve settings to produce pressures far beyond those acceptable to pipeline joints and welds," Mr Reed writes.

The project exceeded the CIA's wildest dreams. There were no casualties in the explosion, but it was so dramatic that the first reports are said to have stirred alarm in Washington.

The initial reports led to fears that the Soviets had launched a missile from a place where rockets were not known to be based, or even had detonated "a small nuclear device", Mr Reed writes in his book.

While some of the details of the CIA's counter-offensive have emerged before, the sabotage of the gas pipeline has remained a secret until now. Mr Reed told the Post he had CIA approval to make the disclosures.

History repeats guys

Maybe it's domestic terrorism? China is a repressive government and there's still lots of poverty not to mention corruption.

www.veteranstoday.com...

Here is a good picture of the crater.

Note the crater is about 400 feet wide as measured by comparison to the standard shipping container sizes of 40 feet. The crater is a complex crater with a cardioid shape indicating a very low altitude or surface contact blast. Side ways compression of the soil indicates some ground penetration. Penetration depth of ground is based on soil type and burst height. Horizontal crater size is roughly equal to ( for every 100 feet, 1 Kiloton in size) see charts. This would put the blast size depending on air burst altitude to be between 3 and 5 kilotons of explosive power
The first blast registered 2.3 on the Richter scale and the second 2.9. Eyewitnesses described what felt like a quake. USGS geophysicist John Bellini says seismographs detect man-made explosions in quarries all the time, but usually surface explosions are not detected very well because most of their energy dissipates upward into the air. The fact is that the Tianjin explosions registered a seismographic event that had as much energy as a small earthquake. One can reasonably conclude that unlike a surface explosion of chemicals, this kinetic energy released underground was caused by a powerful penetration of the surface.

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An excellent scientific and thorough synopsis at this site who actually presents some compelling evidence and facts that point to a possible 4th gen mini nuke device. ( before you laugh it off read the argument presented )

Normal people are not trained in what to look at so they simply ignore the obvious. However, once you see enough explosions like this you begin to spot the artefacts in the photos real fast. Unfortunately all of these people that know this stuff usually work for the government. Just like I did.

The big clue is in the ash produced and the exploding radiators on the cars. They show the radiation and the blast patterns the best. All melted rubber, glass, and aluminium but no melted steel? This tells you it is from radiation and not from a gasoline fire. Temps between 1500 degrees C for melting aluminium and less than 3,000 degrees C for melting steel. Everything organic ashes below 450 degrees C.
This had a plasma fireball that was over 4,000C! Only a nuke or exotic weapon can do that. The clue is in the white ash leftover from the thermal blast.

thethinkingtamil.com...

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a reply to: mungbean

Don't know where you're getting your data from but I can tell you that aluminum (depending on the alloy) melts around 670 Celsius. Steels and irons are a bit more variable in their melting points but generally are within the 1350-1550 range.

I have zero problem understanding that the radiant energy was enough to melt the aluminum but not the steel. So, yeah, you CAN have molten aluminum but not any melted steel. Oh, and the "exploding" radiators? Most are made from aluminum these days and the coolant in the engines does boil. Again, I have no problem understanding the mechanism in which these automobile parts were caused to fail. Why the rampant false speculation?

a reply to: Foundryman

The data in the comment was pulled directly from the site I linked. I have not fact checked the info your stating but will do so. I do not want to be putting up false info. No need to muddy the waters with half truths or false figures - the obvious facts make a good enough argument themselves.

I am assuming most people can see there is a plausible case for sabotage /attack especially in lieu of all the other material presented here over the pages.

What is the protocol if the info in a link provided is bunk ? ill check it out but should I delete the post ?

Looks like he has used the temps for Fahrenheit and labelled them as celcius.