Exposed: The Faces and Fake Names of the People Behind Planned Parenthood Attack Videos

a reply to: Glinda

To be fair, the administration also said, "If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan."

a reply to: xuenchen

Does anyone actually take you seriously?

If the right has a known liar and spinner of things debating on behalf of them...then you know you are getting somewhere.

originally posted by: Glinda
a reply to: Gryphon66


"Why Monsanto, Dow Chemical, Diamond-Shamrock produce a fine defoliant, that's a patriotic helper to the war efforts in Vietnam...they would NEVER make a product that would make our soldiers sick. They told us so!"

Question authority, and follow the campaign money.

Always.

Just because Administration says Planned Parenthood is innocent of any and all wrongdoings does NOT make it so.

Right. What makes it so is that there has been zero evidence that Planned Parenthood has done anything wrong, illegal, or even immoral, to be blunt.

Evidence, not maxims nor wistfully remembered glory days.

a reply to: beezzer

And when you run out of debating points, repeat a tired old line?

a reply to: beezzer

True dat.

But I think they meant "only as accepted by our corporate friends (wink, wink) at Planned Parenthood.

Again why are you people on the right debating over a highly edited tape.

It just makes you look foolish. Find actual proof there is something going on here than maybe there can be a proper discussion until then you have nothing.

If your entire basis for a debate is an edited tape by known liars..then sorry you lose.

I created this thread and realize they have nothing to back up any of their claims and are basing their entire arguments on this edited tape. So, yeah I am pretty much done with this thread until actual evidence of wrong doing is presented.

a reply to: Gryphon66

There has been no findings against Planned Parenthood (other than the commentary over the Ceasar salad by their own doctors) as there has been no investigation. The books haven't been looked at by forensic accountants, those who they have actually transmitted fetal tissue too have not been looked at. There is no grand jury, no Inspector Generals finding, just a platitude of "we're innocent." With "surprising" parroting by those who RECEIVE campaign donations FROM Planned Parenthood.

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: Glinda

To be fair, the administration also said, "If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan."

I kept my health plan, and so did millions of other Americans.

Garbage health plans that did not meet minimum requirements did not survive because the insurance companies dropped them.

You would prefer the government telling businesses how to run their affairs? Socialist!

But keep dragging this one out ... it wafts a sure scent of fear ... let's make it a three-trick bunny then.

a reply to: Glinda

Obama may have "obligations" ....

Hmmm.

Remarks by the President at the Planned Parenthood Conference

originally posted by: Glinda
a reply to: Gryphon66

There has been no findings against Planned Parenthood (other than the commentary over the Ceasar salad by their own doctors) as there has been no investigation. The books haven't been looked at by forensic accountants, those who they have actually transmitted fetal tissue too have not been looked at. There is no grand jury, no Inspector Generals finding, just a platitude of "we're innocent." With "surprising" parroting by those who RECEIVE campaign donations FROM Planned Parenthood.

You're misinformed. State Probes Find Zero Planned Parenthood Violations As Antiabortion Group Is Sued Over Undercover Videos

Additionally, two state level investigations have so far shown no wrongdoing by the national women’s health organization.

In an investigation in Indiana — called for earlier this month by Governor Mike Pence, a staunch conservative and leading voice in the Republican party — the Indiana Department of Health has ruled that the nonprofit women’s healthcare provider was in full compliance with all state regulations.

“The investigation has concluded there was no evidence of this type of activity at these sites,” said the Indiana Department of Health in a statement, referring to the accusations that the three surgical abortion centers run by Planned Parenthood in the state were collecting fetal tissue without patients’ consent and selling it for profit.

In Massachusetts, a similar statewide investigation was also closed earlier this week, likewise finding no wrongdoing.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: Glinda

To be fair, the administration also said, "If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan."

I kept my health plan, and so did millions of other Americans.

Garbage health plans that did not meet minimum requirements did not survive because the insurance companies dropped them.

You would prefer the government telling businesses how to run their affairs? Socialist!

But keep dragging this one out ... it wafts a sure scent of fear ... let's make it a three-trick bunny then.

So if you kept your plan, then everyone else got to keep theirs.

Got it.

Do you work for the administration?

a reply to: Gryphon66

Well it would make sense for PP to selectively choose their locations wouldn't it.

The perfect disclaimer.

And Indiana is under the "watch list".

Possible blackmail "favor" called in for collateral.

#justaconspiracy

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Glinda

Obama may have "obligations" ....

Hmmm.

Remarks by the President at the Planned Parenthood Conference

Obama may be "subject" to the force of gravity ...

Hmmm.

There are also deep suspicions that the President may also require an oxygen-nitrogen gaseous mix to breathe, and he may even consume dihydrogen monoxide ...

Oh, the terror!!!

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Gryphon66

Well it would make sense for PP to selectively choose their locations wouldn't it.

The perfect disclaimer.

And Indiana is under the "watch list".

Possible blackmail "favor" called in for collateral.

#justaconspiracy

The governments of Indiana and Massachusetts chose the investigations, not Planned Parenthood.

You know, if I didn't know better, I would think you were intentionally trying to mislead people.

originally posted by: beezzer

So if you kept your plan, then everyone else got to keep theirs.

Got it.

Do you work for the administration?

Oh Beezzer, I know that when you start misquoting something that is two posts above, you're either desperate or need to go beddy-bye.

Quote me or leave it alone.

Whom do you work for, Beezzer? And, did you have any comments on acceptable abortion?

a reply to: Gryphon66

Many group plans used by businesses were already "compliant".

Yours was through work or business?

The private individual plans were the ones that took most of the heat.

a reply to: Gryphon66


Not sure how much money Indiana mandates for Planned Parenthood (if any at all). The FEDERAL government does subsidize PP and as such, with Federal laws concerning the possible SELLING of human tissue, and the trafficking of said tissue across state lines, coupled with questions of whether HIPAA laws regarding the transference of human surgical "waste" from one entity receiving FEDERAL FUNDS to for profits bio-research companies, the Congress and Senate DO have standing (above and beyond the states where PP runs clinics) to investigate the claims coming forth from the videos.

Why if everything is legal, is Planned Parenthood (and their politcal allie$) afraid of opening the books?

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Gryphon66

Many group plans used by businesses were already "compliant".

Yours was through work or business?

The private individual plans were the ones that took most of the heat.

And who cancelled most of the plans?

The insurance companies. Not the Government, not Obama, not the Democrats ... the insurance companies.

Are you a socialist too? Did you want the Government to tell even more businesses what they can and cannot do?

originally posted by: Glinda
a reply to: Gryphon66


Not sure how much money Indiana mandates for Planned Parenthood (if any at all). The FEDERAL government does subsidize PP and as such, with Federal laws concerning the possible SELLING of human tissue, and the trafficking of said tissue across state lines, coupled with questions of whether HIPAA laws regarding the transference of human surgical "waste" from one entity receiving FEDERAL FUNDS to for profits bio-research companies, the Congress and Senate DO have standing (above and beyond the states where PP runs clinics) to investigate the claims coming forth from the videos.

Why if everything is legal, is Planned Parenthood (and their politcal allie$) afraid of opening the books?

So, you were wrong about no investigations and no findings of fault with Planned Parenthood then?

Good to know.