Exposed: The Faces and Fake Names of the People Behind Planned Parenthood Attack Videos

a reply to: Gryphon66

You're the one who claims to know everything.

Have you ever been wrong?

(I doubt it)

originally posted by: Glinda
a reply to: beezzer

I am old enough to remember the 60 Minutes exposes; the in depth talk fests of Phil Donahue; the Love Canal, Agent Orange; Karen Silkwood; etc, etc...so many "outings" by those who penetrated the veneer of "we say it's legal, so it is " at great risk to themselves. Whistleblowers all. Who took on chemical companies, the nuclear industry, pesticides, car companies. Now, in this generation , if it's not a "politically correct, approved by the left" revelation, well it's not so, because it doesn't conveniently fit the "meme" and NOT what we've been told (by the deep thinkers of our time--like Nancy Pelosi) well then the MESSENGER must be a liar, sham artist...and, and...did you hear the latest about the Dentist and the lion?

May I try to follow your "logic" here?

You saw news shows 30 years ago ... and that means ... that Planned Parenthood is lying ... because known fraudsters and hucksters say so.

Nope, there's no logic to follow there.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Aghhh...there's the "R" word. The "D" words say Planned Parenthood is okey dokey--so they must be. Let's follow the labels and NEVER think for ourselves...because Nancy Pelosi et al say it's so.

There really are a handful of "Rs" and possibly a few "Ds" who might actually look into this ghoulish desecration of the unborn...the rest are too busy polling to see if the "Dentist" should be extradited or anxiously awaiting an Obama post card from the Vineyard.

So far, two states, MA and IN, have done investigations and found no wrongdoing. More governors, Jindal (LA), Scott (FL), Walker (WI), Abbott (TX), Deal (GA), and Brownback (KS) among them, are doing their own investigations. A Congressional investigation is also underway, with the defunding bill wanting to suspend funding (which preliminary funnels through Medicaid) until it is completed.

State Probes Find Zero Planned Parenthood Violations As Antiabortion Group Is Sued Over Undercover Videos

a reply to: Gryphon66

Race horses hate it when they finish second.

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originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: Gryphon66

You're the one who claims to know everything.

Have you ever been wrong?

(I doubt it)

How many times have I answered this same childish question from you?

I have never claimed that, insinuated it, implied it, etc. etc.

Yet, that's always your go to comment when you don't diverge into the progressive-liberal-socialist garbage.

When it comes down to it, you're really only a two-trick pony bunny, huh?

And I bet you still won't answer the simple question as to whether abortion is ever justified or not.

Want to try again? Rape, incest, danger to the pregnant woman's life, horrific disfigurement or disability of the fetus ...

Acceptable to abort or not?

Maybe this time you'll find the fortitude to answer.

originally posted by: ~Lucidity

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: ~Lucidity

MediaMatters is another excellent source.

Funded by George Soros.

Can't argue with success they say.

Media Matters, with all its alleged faults, is heads above most of the tripe on the internet. What is takes is to start there and then do some digging on your own, from ALL perspectives, and compare, and then apply some common sense.

As is Democracy Now.

You know how I tell a 'progressive' article or piece from a 'conservative'? The progressive check their facts and find experienced people in the field being discussed to comment. The conservatives use corporate mouthpieces and unverified facts.

There are a couple of good well written and researched conservative magizines and the Nation carries well written, researched and fact checked pieces across the political spectrum and has done so for 150 years. The interent gave everyone a voice - very few who are worth the effort to listen.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Gryphon66

Race horses hate it when they finish second.

Click Click

Says the poster who holds the land speed record for posts per day.

Here Are The Fake IDs Anti-Abortion Activists Used To Film Planned Parenthood

The National Abortion Federation filed suit against the anti-abortion group in federal court on Friday, asking that it be temporarily barred from releasing any more videos they may have "illegally obtained" using the fake IDs at NAF events.

"In order to circumvent the very necessary security precautions NAF has in place, CMP engaged in a long-running illegal conspiracy," the group said in a statement. "They set up a fake company and sent fake employees of that company with fake identities to misrepresent themselves and gain access to NAF’s annual meetings and member facilities that provide abortion care. They signed agreements with NAF that prohibited the activities they have engaged in, obviously with no intention of honoring those agreements."

The Huffington Post reported that the anti-abortion group may have also illegally deceived the IRS by applying for tax-exempt status as a biomedicine charity.

originally posted by: Glinda
a reply to: Gryphon66

Aghhh...there's the "R" word. The "D" words say Planned Parenthood is okey dokey--so they must be. Let's follow the labels and NEVER think for ourselves...because Nancy Pelosi et al say it's so.

There really are a handful of "Rs" and possibly a few "Ds" who might actually look into this ghoulish desecration of the unborn...the rest are too busy polling to see if the "Dentist" should be extradited or anxiously awaiting an Obama post card from the Vineyard.

Please scan my post that I assume you're responding to. Got it?

Now, please point out any reference to "R" or "D."

I'll wait.

Didn't find any? Know why?

They aren't there.

Now that your subterfuge is over ... any reason why we should accept your memories of classic CBS news magazines as evidence in the current matter?

originally posted by: FyreByrd
The progressive check their facts and find experienced people in the field being discussed to comment. The conservatives use corporate mouthpieces and unverified facts.

There are a couple of good well written and researched conservative magizines and the Nation carries well written, researched and fact checked pieces across the political spectrum and has done so for 150 years. The interent gave everyone a voice - very few who are worth the effort to listen.

Which is why they are slower to respond in many cases. They actually think about it and check things. You can watch the patterns time after time after time as lies go viral and the truth gets buried.

originally posted by: FyreByrd

As is Democracy Now.

You know how I tell a 'progressive' article or piece from a 'conservative'? The progressive check their facts and find experienced people in the field being discussed to comment. The conservatives use corporate mouthpieces and unverified facts.

Just like they did with this piece.

All talk, not checks.

All one sided with no rebuttals.

a reply to: Gryphon66
Nice try, but earlier generations "questioned" authority. "Spoke truth to power" and would NOT collectively roll over because "politicians" told then so...

I would hazard to guess as many PRO-ABORTION Congressional Reps and U.S. Senators receive campaign donations from Planned Parenthood CURRENTLY as did their earlier counterparts receive campaign funding from the makers of Agent Orange or big pharma (thalidomide ring a bell?)

Follow the money...now and back then. IF clandestine ops hadn't been done to expose previous WRONGS we would live in a much, much different world.

a reply to: FyreByrd

Yeah, but challenge something from "The Blaze" or "Breitbart" or Fox News ...

*drama queen voice*

"How dare you attack the source rather than the substance??? *gasp* TYPICAL progressive-leftist-socialist-Alinskyan move!"

From a certain perspective, it's a hilarious show to watch.

originally posted by: Glinda
a reply to: Gryphon66
Nice try, but earlier generations "questioned" authority. "Spoke truth to power" and would NOT collectively roll over because "politicians" told then so...

I would hazard to guess as many PRO-ABORTION Congressional Reps and U.S. Senators receive campaign donations from Planned Parenthood CURRENTLY as did their earlier counterparts receive campaign funding from the makers of Agent Orange or big pharma (thalidomide ring a bell?)

Follow the money...now and back then. IF clandestine ops hadn't been done to expose previous WRONGS we would live in a much, much different world.

So, you're still meandering in your beliefs and fantasies and still have no evidence for anything?

Good enough! Enjoy it.

Oh, have to add "clandestine ops" ... that's a hoot! Idiots post on youtube and you think they're "clandestine."

a reply to: ~Lucidity

The "IFs ANDs and BUTs" as reported by the Huff



Great photoshops on those "I.D.s" too.

And hats off to the "possibility" of the insinuated "possible" tax fraud.

Hey, maybe the "signed" agreements are forgeries?



Of course, we never know for sure as the MSM keeps the home fires burning.

a reply to: Gryphon66

I believe you pointedly asked me WHY Senate Republicans weren't acting upon starting an investigation?

I don't care for the "labels" myself. I prefer to see how they actually vote once in DC...not the letter after their name. For the most part they collectively are a "uniparty."

And if you cannot make the leap from past journalistic exposes of blatant lies and horrific
wrong doing and see that the videos being released are done in the same investigative mindset, then you really need to see if there are any updates on Cecil or the latest doings of Kimye...

Here we go with the f*cking lion again? That talking point and the stretch to relate it to this topic was so yesterday.

originally posted by: Glinda
a reply to: Gryphon66

I believe you pointedly asked me WHY Senate Republicans weren't acting upon starting an investigation?

I don't care for the "labels" myself. I prefer to see how they actually vote once in DC...not the letter after their name. For the most part they collectively are a "uniparty."

And if you cannot make the leap from past journalistic exposes of blatant lies and horrific
wrong doing and see that the videos being released are done in the same investigative mindset, then you really need to see if there are any updates on Cecil or the latest doings of Kimye...

Nope, not even close. Here's a reminder of what I said in that regard:

originally posted by: Gryphon66

Who needs an investigation? Apparently not the US Senate, or more appropriately, the Republicans in charge of same.

The first part is a rhetorical question, the second part is the answer.

As to the rest ... so, because I can't "make the leap" from a 30 year old TV show to knowing that Planned Parenthood is really guilty when they state they aren't ... you want to bring up stupid pop-culture references?

Sorry ma'am or sir ... I prefer just a wee bit more reality and evidence than you seem to. Best.

a reply to: Gryphon66


"Why Monsanto, Dow Chemical, Diamond-Shamrock produce a fine defoliant, that's a patriotic helper to the war efforts in Vietnam...they would NEVER make a product that would make our soldiers sick. They told us so!"

Question authority, and follow the campaign money.

Always.

Just because Administration says Planned Parenthood is innocent of any and all wrongdoings does NOT make it so.