Planned Parenthood is Not Selling Baby Parts, You @!#$ing Idiots

Then I suppose there's no issues in having an investigation and letting all the facts fall where they may.


If people are so convinced they are innocent why all the outrage

Obviously if there is no wrong doing the evidence will prove that

White House backs Planned Parenthood over ‘edited’ videos, federal funding

It wasn’t exactly a surprise, but the White House gave a forceful defense of Planned Parenthood Wednesday and decried Republican lawmakers’ efforts to defund the organization in the wake of undercover videos revealing the sale of fetal tissue.

White House deputy press secretary Eric Schultz said he didn’t know whether President Obama has seen the videos because the president just returned Wednesday from a five-day trip to Africa.

But Mr. Schultz said White House officials are “familiar with the news reports, including that a lot of these videos have been edited.”

And he said the White House “couldn’t disagree more” with congressional Republicans who want to strip the organization of federal funding over the issue.

Mainly because it would be ILLEGAL.

But just how much funding does Planned Parenthood receive from the government? In the fiscal year that ended June 30, 2014, Planned Parenthood had $1.3 billion in total revenue. Of that, $528.4 million came from government health services grants and reimbursements. The group says the vast majority of federal dollars it receives comes from Medicaid reimbursements for providing preventative health care.

That's why ending the flow of federal dollars isn't as simple as turning off the spigot. The laws governing Medicaid - the health insurance program for low-income families - prevent states from excluding certain providers solely because of other medical services they provide, like abortions. Those laws also say Medicaid recipients must be allowed to seek treatment from anyone who is qualified to perform the services. This is sometimes called a "freedom of choice" provision.

In other words, the bill introduced by the Senate Republicans Wednesday - if it were to pass - would violate existing federal law and almost certainly face a challenge in court, Susan Fogel, the Director of Reproductive Health for the National Health Law Program, told CBS News. [Source]

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

it's not planned parenthood that is suing, it's stem express. they are two different entities. it seems that they have quite a bit of information on their website that well, they got by posing as a fake company pretending have the desire to do business with stem express and well, they also signed a confidentiality agreement with stem express which they broke that agreement by uploading the documents onto the site.

a reply to: darkbake

So if you agree that CMP obtained those videos illegally, why are you having trouble believing that those videos are most likely heavily edited to illicit the response that everyone has been showing to them? I mean, this is propaganda 101 and the conservative right is falling for it hook, line, and sinker.

originally posted by: JIMC5499
a reply to: ~Lucidity

Fmr. Planned Parenthood Director Reveals Abortion Business Is Making $100 to $200 Profit Off Each Baby's Body Parts

Sigh........

Why do Christian pro-lifers have to lie?

From your link:

"Shipping only costs a clinic $4 to $10 but they are sometimes charging $100 to $200 for each baby," Johnson told The Christian Post when asked if there's a profit to be made from the harvesting of aborted baby parts.

Really? It only cost 4 dollars to ship live fetal tissue samples? Like I've said earlier in these threads, my daughter is/was in this business. Now, she works for a major FOR PROFIT pharmaceutical company doing assays on live stem cell growth cultures. It costs about $500, one way, to Fed Ex them overnight.

BUT.... "they are sometime charging "$100 to $200 per baby!" How, in any stretch of the imagination, does that come out to $100,000. profit?

originally posted by: JIMC5499
Fmr. Planned Parenthood Director Reveals Abortion Business Is Making $100 to $200 Profit Off Each Baby's Body Parts

From your link:

Abby Johnson, a pro-life activist

Ok, so she's got a "cause" as a religious crusader. AND she's written a book. No obvious issues here... Plus, she's had TWO abortions herself! I guess she appreciated the choice at one point... But that was before she converted to... Catholic and felt the need to start a crusade to deny other women the choice that she had taken advantage of... OK, I'm getting the picture...

"Shipping only costs a clinic $4 to $10

So, they just stuff in in a manila envelope and stick it in the mailbox? Is she serious? Are YOU serious? What about dry ice, the cooler, storage and transportation?

Abby Johnson, Activist

She claims she left PP because she had been asked to assist in an abortion and was 'changed' by it.

Fox News reported that Johnson was unable to provide any emails, letters, or other evidence to support her allegations about pressure to perform abortions.
...
Planned Parenthood stated that its records do not show any ultrasound-guided abortions performed on the date when Johnson says she witnessed the procedure, and the physician who performed abortions at the Bryan clinic stated that Johnson had never been asked to assist in an abortion. Although Johnson said the abortion was of a 13-week-old fetus, records from the Texas Department of Health show no such abortions performed at the Bryan Clinic on the date in question.
...
Johnson was put on a "performance improvement plan" four days before her resignation.

Yeah, I wouldn't trust this woman's words for a minute. She's on a mission from God.

a reply to: windword

Prove that they are lying. It is done all over the place. How many infomercials have you seen where you buy one and get a second one free if you just pay shipping and handling? They jack the price on the first one and you pay for the second as "handling".

a reply to: dawnstar

I know. I read a lot of the complaint. That's a Good Thing.

originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: windword

An acorn isn't an oak tree.

You're getting you're guide book arguments jumbled here. You're supposed to use that one when discussing fertilized eggs.

What is the difference when we're talking about "personhood"? After all, "Life begins at conception", right?

A corporation is defined a personhood as well.

So legal technicalities suggest that a corporation is more of a person than a human foetus...



Abortion apologist arguments induce a sickness that epicac would envy.

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic
I just wanted to clear up any misunderstanding instead of letting it run it's course on the boards...
kind of disappointed when I saw it, I was hoping that there was also a suit against them filed by planned parenthood also.
but well there's two legal investigations looking at the possibility of there being crimes committed against the makers of the videos and one lawsuit.
so well maybe it will at least put these people out of business so we won't have them resurfacing in another ten to twenty years pulling a modified stunt that's practically a mirror image of this. I mean twice is quite enough!!!

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

A corporation is a person.

Therefore, Abortions are SATAN.

Pro-Life logic, everyone!

originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

A corporation is a person.

Therefore, Abortions are SATAN.

Pro-Life logic, everyone!

Bring up religion and political slant when it's an absolute moral difference...

Apologist logic, everyone.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

You know I respect you, Charlie. But we won't see eye-to-eye on this.

My body, my business. Not yours, not the governments, not a religion's, not anyone's but my own.

No amount of logical fallacies will change that opinion.

a reply to: ScientificRailgun

If you respect me, do me the courtesy of not assuming my stance on this as a whole. Because I'm not pro life.
Nor does religion play a part in my thinking process.

Thanks.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

so, if you give the fetus the rights of personhood, do they share equal rights with the mother that is carrying them? what if the interest of the two conflict? like say, I do know, the mother is discovered to have luekemia and needs chemotherapy to treat it? does the rights of the fetus to have a safe healthy womb to develop in trump the right of the mother to get her treatment?

www.alternet.org...

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

so, if you give the fetus the rights of personhood, do they share equal rights with the mother that is carrying them? what if the interest of the two conflict? like say, I do know, the mother is discovered to have luekemia and needs chemotherapy to treat it? does the rights of the fetus to have a safe healthy womb to develop in trump the right of the mother to get her treatment?

www.alternet.org...

I do not see life saving surgery/treatment as synonymous with abortion.

a reply to: khnum

Sin now theres a word you dont see much anymore,O well we now have a statue of the devil in Detroit,not long now before the fires and human sacrifices probably...flame away

it won't be long

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

If you're not pro-life, then what are you? You seem to have plenty of derision for the pro-choice side of things.

If your beliefs are not based in religion, then what are they based on, exactly?

The thing is, PP offers medical abortions FIRST. If they were money hungry for fetuses, why would they push their patients to take a pill and pass the fetus in the privacy of their own home? Flushing money down the toilet?

originally posted by: The GUT

originally posted by: Nyiah
...At least it's being put to good use in furthering research that can help others. Instead of, you know, rotting or being incinerated & thus being a complete & total waste entirely.

There's that "it" again. It's like that sociopath in the movie screaming, "It must put on its lotion" in preparation for some skin harvesting.

GOD DAMN IT! IT iS AN IT! It's an f*ING bean! it doesn't have a penis, or a vagina, or even the capability to think. It it it it it. WTF is your issue with the word it. If someone else is (according to your beliefs) going to "hell" for murder... why the f* do you care?