The Truth of Things

a reply to: daskakik

Like I said, nature is also a distraction but in a benevolent way. It can distract you from the moment but it is never maliciously. It can remind you of the moment as well, but only when you start to recognize it for what it is. Not all people will come to realize who they are, it is not a requirement by any means, but some will realize and that's not a bad thing at all.

There is nothing wrong with being distracted, just don't stay distracted on a constant basis. Always remind yourself of the moment every now and then.

The thing is, those in power intentionally distract us with these material possessions in order to benefit off of our ignorance, and like I said, nature itself does not have a malevolent motive behind it like technology does with its sellers. Those in power take nature then sell it back to us knowing it was free all along. Technology is not "evil" but it can be used in evil ways, just as nature can be used in evil ways.

a reply to: daskakik

Are you not trying to convince yourself that I am wrong? We are no different in that regard. The main point I was trying to make was that history has its roots in a word that means "to see". To see the image is to watch history unfold, we are seeing it unfold right now by seeing it happen.

It is only a added bonus that history also stems from words that mean "wiseman" and "story", yet those words are inconsequential when the root of the matter is seen. History is to "see" a "story" unfold.

a reply to: Bluesma

I enjoyed your post. I wasn't really demanding anything though, only requesting that the thread turn into something constructive instead of just mudslinging. If mudslinging occurs, oh well, at least I tried to make it constructive with my request.

a reply to: [post=19616220]3NL1GHT3N3D1[/post
Thanks great stuff in the whole picture! How about this for a bit of play.
Really it means "is story" meaning not so much his but a story. A story can be authored by a he or a she, but in many cases to be more precise its every bodies story. The story of light dancing in the dark and that which observes then writes a story about this. The best story writer is the one that sees and feels all that occurs, the doer lives and makes part of the story, but the seer sees and then creates a story from what is seen. What is seen, can also be what is felt. So whomever or whatever is able to see,to do and feel and thus know tells the best story of all. Shakespeare told every bodies story! because she/he knew them all.
In the end, the story becomes another dance of light and thus one gives birth to another part.

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: Bluesma

I enjoyed your post. I wasn't really demanding anything though, only requesting that the thread turn into something constructive instead of just mudslinging. If mudslinging occurs, oh well, at least I tried to make it constructive with my request.

I see no problem with the request (sorry, I used the word "demand" because in french it simply means "request" - I forgot that in english it carries a slightly more forceful connotation )... I simply meant to point out that sometimes projection and thought of future is appropriate and okay - one need not strive to avoid it at all moments.

The thing is there is only this that is happening but there maybe an added extra - a person that this is happening to. There is no person. There is simply what is happening - now.
There are no enlightened people - there is just this light that is constantly appearing.

The light appears as everything. The weird thing is that the light can form as thoughts which speak of other than what is appearing - thought cannot speak of now, of what is actually happening - this is the unnameable, the unspeakable. Before and after now is created by thought and this pretend place is populated by pretend separate things.
There are no things - there is simply what is happening.

Now is a question of when, not what or where.

a reply to: Bluesma

I simply meant to point out that sometimes projection and thought of future is appropriate and okay - one need not strive to avoid it at all moments.

I totally agree! I said something similar in my second post on this page. Nothing wrong with thinking and being pulled away from the moment, just don't get stuck outside of it permanently.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope


Now is a question of when, not what or where.

There is no time. Where is time?
All questions arise from the answer.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

There is also no "this". Where, what and when is "this"?

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Itisnowagain

There is also no "this". Where, what and when is "this"?

What is there then?

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Itisnowagain

There is also no "this". Where, what and when is "this"?

What is there then?

That depends on what you're speaking about.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
Where, what and when is "this"?

This is nowhere, is nothing and is timeless.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

That's because you're speaking of nothing.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Itisnowagain

There is also no "this". Where, what and when is "this"?

What is there then?

That depends on what you're speaking about.

The truth of things - there are no things - there is simply what is happening.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Itisnowagain

That's because you're speaking of nothing.

The truth of 'things' - there are no-things - there is nothing - not a thing.
There is simply what is happening - this is being all there is.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Repeating it doesn't make it true. Especially when it is repeated by a thing.

a reply to: LesMisanthrope
I know nothing, only that can I know.

a reply to: ancientthunder

Don't be so hard on yourself, thunder. You know quite a bit.

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

It is The Word/The Thought/The Logos that Creates. Thought is Creative. The Now is just the result of our energy/perceptions/beliefs/thoughts.

"All things are possible for he who has Faith."

The body is just the temple of The Spirit of The Creator within. The Temple is a creation made by The Mind.

"Know ye not, ye are Gods?"

The Logos/The Thought/The Word is The Light of Life. It is The Spark of Creation.

"Let there be Light!"

There are always more blessings. Life is Growth/Increase. If death has any power at all it is only to destroy the creations of Life/Logos/Word/Thought/Mind, but not The Logos itself. If the body dies, it will just create a new one. This is The Ressurection of The Logos in a New Glorified Body. There is never loss, only gain. Even if loss (death) does occur, there is still (gain).

Life has won and death is defeated. Death kills itself but Life is eternal.