Just Wondering...

a reply to: randyvs

So with a flood of information coming in from all over the world about a world class terrorist and our elected? just shrug it off
but their not retarded. Is there something wrong with you?

Of course not. I posted a list of a number of countries warning the United States that terrorist would hijack aircraft in their attack on America.

On another note, you've just made another serious blunder confirming what I have said about truthers posting disinformation. You actually posted a video of William Rodriquez not knowing that he has since been caught lying and he is now discredited and yet, you posted a fraud not knowing the rest of the story about William Rodriquez and thinking he supported your case.

It is that kind of overlooking that has made a mockery of the Truth Movement. Check it out.

William Rodriguez - Last Man Out: Discovered a Fraud!

We have more then a few things we have discovered about Mr. William Rodriguez, alleged last man out of the world trade center on 9/11 which are extremely suspicious, but none as suspicious as when one draws a simple gracious time-line of William Rodriguez's very own tale of the events and compares it to probability verses possibility verses impossibility. . Unfortunately, no matter how one does the equation of William Rodriguez's tale of events of September the 11th, 2001, last man out, there is no available possibility that his story is true. There is literally no other possibility then that his tale of events is a staggering national hoax and at the crux of an international conspiracy.

His file is growing every day we look into this national hero of 9/11. When one lies and is caught in their lie, there is humiliation. But when one tells a lie thousands and thousands of times, and makes a fat living off of it for 10 years straight, who can describe the humiliation? William Rodriguez has told his lie, on National TV, International TV and beyond. He is by far one of the more prolific liars of the 21st century.

So don't expect William Rodriguez to ever admit to the truth. Even when nobody is listening to him any longer and he is living in a box again. And no, I seriously doubt Willie Rodriguez was ever homeless. That was all part of his "legend." The national hero ignored. National hero homeless. Then finally recognition and redemption., then finally international hero status. Legends take an awful lot of effort to create. Yet fraudulent legends sometimes fall in a matter of minutes, sometimes seconds. It doesn't take much. Just a little bit of truth shining in a dark place.

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William Rodriguez - Deconstructing a Narcissistic & Fraudulent Super-Hero


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RICO lawsuit

In October 2004, Rodriguez sued the President of the United States and 155 other parties, accusing them of complicity in the 9/11 attacks.

His 237-page civil lawsuit included allegations pursuant to the RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act) against The United States Of America, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, the Department of Homeland Security, George Herbert Walker Bush, George W. Bush, Richard Cheney, Donald H. Rumsfeld,and numerous others, totaling 156 defendants in the US District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania.

In his lawsuit, Rodriguez made hundreds of allegations including allegations that the Twin Towers were destroyed by means of "controlled demolitions;" that members of the FDNY were ordered, on instructions of the CIA, not to talk about it; that the FDNY conspired with Larry Silverstein to deliberately destroy 7WTC; that projectiles were fired at the Twin Towers from “pods” affixed to the underside of the planes that struck them; that FEMA is working with the US government to create “American Gulag” concentration camps which FEMA will run once the federal government’s plan to impose martial law is in place; that phone calls made by some of the victims, as reported by their family members, were not actually made but were "faked" by the government using "voice morphing" technology; that a missile, not American Airlines Flight 77, struck the Pentagon; that United Airlines Flight 93 was shot down by the US military; that the defendants had foreknowledge of the attacks and actively conspired to bring them about; that the defendants engaged in kidnapping, arson, murder, treason, conspiracy, trafficking in narcotics, embezzlement, securities fraud, insider trading, identity and credit card theft, blackmail, trafficking in humans, and the abduction and sale of women and children for sex. In his Complaint, Rodriquez also alleged that he "single-handedly rescued fifteen persons from the WTC".

The matter was transferred to the Southern District of New York on May 2, 2005. In January 2006, Rodriguez swore and filed a 51-page affidavit in opposition to a motion to dismiss, which reiterated and expanded upon his conspiracy allegations. On June 26, 2006, the court dismissed Rodriguez's claims against the USA, DHS, and FEMA, and gave Rodriguez until July 7, 2006 to show cause why his lawsuit should not be dismissed with respect to the other 153 defendants. Rodriguez failed to do so, and the court dismissed all of his claims against all of the remaining 153 defendants on July 17, 2006


Debunking William Rodriquez

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a reply to: skyeagle409

So what you are saying is that you believe the OS? Would you care to explain why you still do? What would it take for you to change your mind? Tell you what...go watch the videos I posted in my Common Sense thread, you will find it in th search engine, watch those videos...it may take you a few hours but if you still believe that this was carried out by 19 terrorists with box cutters and that these 3 buildings just fell down all because of a little old jet fuel....oh who am I kidding....Mark Twain said it best...heck I bet you still believe the Bible and Santa Clause and The Tooth Fairy....Some people are just determined to hold on to fairy tales.

a reply to: skyeagle409

Errr... seriously? You just came up with an opinion about somebody from very fishy 'sources'...

I can imagine the judge to be more than carefull about sensible matters, if he would prefer to keep his job of course. And no, that's far from being proof for your disinfo-allegations. Mockery? Aha.

You should recheck your manners as you should recheck your... 'sources' - the letsrollpage is down. You didn't just try to post some ad hominem disinfo to back up your ad hominem attack , did you?

a reply to: randyvs

I'd just like to find someone from ATS to put a
hard hat on for just one hour. Just to give them some
idea of the iron structure, free floating aluminum would
be bouncing off of. Because it's perfectly clear to me
that's where the game changer be. Just a walk around
the first floor would give you a far different perspective.
The 46 reinforced core columns used in the WTC are
obviously far more than you imagine. The collapse is
the biggest reoccurring jobsite joke going.

Apparently, the 9/11 Commission report denied the existence of any reinforcement in the core columns at all, and actually stated that they were "hollow steel shafts". FEMA apparently concurred. Crazy that you mentioned that because I was actually just reading about it before I saw your post.

Towers' Architecture

originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: Nova937

Other documentaries have said similar things and to be honest it looks so obvious as to what 9/11 was. A False Flag. I questioned 9/11 before seeing these Docs and they have just confirmed what I was asking.

The was no 9/11 False Flag. Just prior to the 9/11 attack, countries around the world sent warnings to the United States that Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda would use aircraft in a terror attack on America, and some of those warning were issued from Muslim countries and even from the Taliban in Afghanistan. CIA headquarters was also a target as noted in the Bojinka Plot.

After the 9/11 attack, Osama bin Laden admitted that he was responsible and al-Qaeda released the martyr videos of the 9/11 hijackers. The U.S. government was not capable of pulling off such an operation and not get caught, yet it has been 14 years and to date, not one single shred of a government conspiracy was found.

How long did it take to bust the Watergate scandal?

Lol Osama Bin Laden admitted to the attack?

What with? These bogus CIA created videos that don't even look like OBL?

Come on! A 2 year old can see that the blame game vids were all a bunch of sh*t!

Same sh*t as the London 7/7 bombings. A bunch of 2 year olds can see through both 9/11 and 7/7.

LMAO at people that believe the OS's of 9/11 and 7/7.

Drills of both events going on and during? Doesn't that paint the obvious?

a reply to: soulpowertothendegree

Truther movement? What's wrong with you? You think because people want the truth to come out that is an insult? What does that make people that believe the lies? The Liar Movement? Okay. Guilty. I am a truther, Happy now?

The truth that you speak is in direct contradiction to the lie that they have chosen to live, plain and simple, and that is threatening to most people. It is a defense mechanism, much like small children who cover their ears rather than hear something they do not want to believe. If they can't hear it, see it or feel it, it isn't real. In human psychology this is referred to as "magical thinking".

I think that a lot of people simply do not want to believe that they have been taken for fools by the people they put their trust into (in this case, the government), and the defensive nature of the behavior is evidenced by how quickly they resort to demeaning and abusive (e.g., attacking others' intelligence or asserting some contrived intellectual superiority over them) treatment of others who refuse to believe as they do. They are secretly afraid they'll end up being alone in their beliefs and that causes them to react badly.

It's normal human behavior and we all do it to some extent, even though we come off appearing childish and sulky in the process, and some people use this regressive behavior so often that they don't even realize they're doing it. My only complaint is that there appears to be a serious lack of creativity at work...I mean, really?? They can't come up with something just a smidge snazzier than "Truthers"? Disappointing to be reduced to that, but then I suppose that's the point, right?

Something I wanted to mention that caught my eye while I was reading up on WTC construction: I'm not saying it's definitive, so let's not have anyone getting their panties in a bunch, but it is interesting...did you know that the guy who designed the WTC is the same guy who designed Dhahran International Airport in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia? As of May of this year it's been converted into King Abdulaziz Air Base, which kind of made me sad because I grew up there and spent a lot of my young life in that airport and Al-Khobar, the city nearby. I just thought it was an interesting tidbit what with the Bush connection to the House of Saud and some of United Airlines' security being handled by the same people who handled security at WTC, also tied to the Bush family. It gets pretty intriguing when you start connecting all the dots, doesn't it? Fascinating stuff.

a reply to: soulpowertothendegree

So what you are saying is that you believe the OS? Would you care to explain why you still do?

My four dacades worth of experience as a pilot, aircraft structural technician, where I worked with aerospace metals, to know to when someone is trying to pull the wool over my eyes, such as the molten metal falling from the corner of WTC 2, and of course, my beef with Rob Balsamo, founder of "Pilots for 9/11 Truth" when I caught him red-handed distorting facts and pushing disinformation.

On a number of occasions, I have had to correct truthers because I knew from experience that what there were posting was false, such as their claim that the 9/11 airliners were modified to fly under remote control and were switched. I knew that was false because I knew that the B-767 and the B-757 could not have been modified without attracting a lot of attention. Did they really think they could have slipped airliners in the colors of American Airlines and United Airlines into a major airport under the watchful eyes of ATC and employees of those airlines without authorization? Those are just some of the examples that I am talking about.

My Wing Commnader, who was in the Pentagon when American 77 struck, provided us with detains on what occurred during and after the attack, which bewilders me when I see someone claiming that no aircraft struck the Pentagon and that it was a missile or that American 77 overflew the Pentagon and slipped into National Airport. How do you slip a B-757 into National Airport under ATC radar and tower personnel? After reading that, I couldn't help but think that someone was deliberately planting disinformation.

What would it take for you to change your mind?

Well, looking at it this way, considering that videos and photos proved that the WTC buildings did not fall at free fall speed, and that the United States received warnings from a number of countries around the world prior to the 9/11 attack that terrorist would hijack airliners and use them as weapons, and that Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda admitted they were responsible, and that the terrorist organization released their martyr videos of the 9/11 hijackers, and that no evidence of explosive hardware was ever found in the rubble at ground zero, and that no explosions are heard as the WTC buildings collapsed, and that seismic monitors did not detect explosions that could have been attributed to explosives and that buckling was seen just prior to each WTC collapsed, which is a clear indication that fire, not explosives, were slowly weakening their steel structures, and that demolition experts in the area have stated that they heard no demolition explosions, and that I knew that the Pentagon could not track $2.3 trillion, and why it was no mystery to me, especially since most of that money has now been accounted for, and that American Airlines and United Airlines announced the loss of American 11 American 77, United 93 and United 175, there is not anything that can convince me that 9/11 was a False Flag operation.

I would like to add that I was also aware that conversion formulas of the black boxes that were supplied by the airlines and the Boeing Aircraft Co. pertained ONLY to the 9/11 aircraft. In other words, the 9/11 aircraft were not switched, which is evident by the fact that remains of passengers and crew have been identified as well.

Claims pertaining to 9/11 by the Truth Movement have been successfully debunked with facts and evidence and it has been 14 years since the 9/11 attack and after all of these years, not one single shred of evidence has surfaced that implicates the United States in a False Flag operation. How long did it take for the Watergate scandal to be revealed?

Tell you what...go watch the videos I posted in my Common Sense thread, you will find it in th search engine, watch those videos...it may take you a few hours but if you still believe that this was carried out by 19 terrorists with box cutters and that these 3 buildings just fell down all because of a little old jet fuel...

Let me stop you there. Jet fuel got the fire started, and the fire was sustained by contents from the aircraft and from within the buildings themselves.WTC 5 and WTC 7 were not struck by aircraft, but they caught fire jsut the same. Firefighters and investigators were shocked when they went inside WTC 5 and found that the building suffered an internal collapse when fire weakened it steel structure.

At some point, you have to realize when you have been taken for a ride to the cleaners by those whose goal is to make the folks of the Truth Movement look like clowns. You only have to look at the known hoaxed videos and photos that truthes have used as references to understand what I mean.

originally posted by: tigertatzen
I think that a lot of people simply do not want to believe that they have been taken for fools by the people they put their trust into

True, truthers do not want to believe that the people making money from 9/11 will say anything, and put anything up on youtube to keep the money rolling in!

a reply to: soulpowertothendegree

Planes hit the building, indisputable? Hardly. It is quite the contrary. Nothing about that day is indisputable other than the official version.

Correct me if I am wrong, but are you suggesting that it is possible that no airliner struck WTC 1, WTC 2 or the Pentagon? Please clarify.

a reply to: Nova937

Lol Osama Bin Laden admitted to the attack?

Yes, Osama bin Laden not only admitted to the 9/11 attack, but warned the United States that it could expect more attacks, but let's not forget that bin Laden attack U.S. assets prior to the 9/11 attack. Does Osama bin Laden's responsibility for the Kenya and Tanzania embassy bombings ring a bell? How about his attack on the USS Cole?

What with? These bogus CIA created videos that don't even look like OBL?

Now, that is peculiar considering that in another forum, someone posted multiple photos of himself and due to light conditions, his facial features were different. As it was, al-Qaeda went public with its martry videos of the 9/11 hijackers and guess who was head of al-Qaeda? Now, hear this:

Bin Laden's Fatwa

The following text is a fatwa, or declaration of war, by Osama bin Laden first published in Al Quds Al Arabi, a London-based newspaper. The fatwa is entitled "Declaration of War against the Americans Occupying the Land of the Two Holy Places."


Bin Laden Admits 9/11 Responsibility, Warns of More Attacks

A tape aired by Al-Jazeera television Friday showed al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden admitting for the first time that he orchestrated the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks and saying the United States could face more.

Al-Jazeera television is not the CIA.

Drills of both events going on and during? Doesn't that paint the obvious?
edit on 29-7-2015 by Nova937 because: (no reason given)

Seems that you were duped by the drills as well. Let's take a look at how many drills were conducted before the 9/11 attack.

PRE-9/11 PREPARATION AND DEVELOPMENT

Drill Date Scenario
1 NORAD Between 1991 and 2001 Foreign hijacked airliner crashing into famous US building
2 White House, Richard Clarke 1998 Terrorists load Lear Jet with explosive, attack Washington DC
3 NORAD 1999-2001 Hijacked aircraft hit many targets, including WTC, MASCAL
4 Able Danger: DIA, US-SOCOM, LIWA Dec. 1999-2001 Manipulate al Qaeda; data mining (patsy control)
5 Stratus Ivy: DIA Dec. 1999-2001 (?) Operate on patsies “out of the box” (patsy control)
6 Door Hop Galley: DIA (?) Dec. 1999-2001 (?) Still secret (patsy control?)
7 Proactive Pre-emptive Operations Group (P2OG) unknown “Stimulating reactions” of terrorists (patsy control)
8 NORAD (NEADS) Exercises: UN HQ, NYC October 16, 2000 Terrorist crashes Federal Express plane into UN HQ NYC
9 NORAD (NEADS) Exercises: UN HQ NYC October 23, 2000 Terrorist crashes FedEx plane with WMD into UN HQ NYC
10 Pentagon MASCAL exercise Oct. 24-28, 2000 Commercial aircraft hits Pentagon, MASCAL
11 FAA drill December, 2000 Scenario: a chartered flight out of Ohio that had turned its transponder off
12 Positive Force ’01: NORAD plus a dozen agencies; worldwide April 17-26, 2001 COG; attacks on transportation; one scenario: terrorist group hijacking commercial airliner and flying it into Pentagon (Pentagon attack)
13 Unified Vision ’01: US JFCOM; US CENTCOM; US SOCOM: 40 agencies May 7-24, 2001 Invasion of Afghanistan and Pakistan (prepared Operation Enduring Freedom)
14 Red Ex (Recognition, Evaluation, and Decision-Making Exercise); NYC OEM; FDNY; NYPD; FEMA; FBI May 11, 2001 Plane crashes and building collapses in New York City (WTC attack, demolition)
15 Amalgam Virgo ’01: US-Canada multi-agency drill; NORAD; SEADS; Coast Guard, Army, Navy June 1-2, 2001 UAV drone launched from rogue freighter in Gulf of Mexico or cruise missile from barge in Atlantic Ocean; Joint Based Expeditionary Connectivity Center (JBECC) mobile radar command center tested. (Pentagon attack)
16 Mall Strike 2001, Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania (near Shanksville); 600 local first responders and emergency managers June 16, 2001 Toxic chemical agent and the simulated release of radiation and radiological contamination; (indoctrination of first responders).
17 FAA Drill: FBI Miami field office, Miami-Dade County Police Department. Summer 2001 Varig airlines Boeing 767 hijacked over Florida
18 Ft. Belvoir, Davison Army Airfield helicopter base MASCAL June 29, 2001 Scenario based on plane hitting Pentagon (indoctrination of first responders).
19 US Department of Transportation Hijacking Exercise August 31, 2001 US Dept. of Transportation Crisis Management Center drilled hijacks; simulated cell phone calls.
20 NORAD, NEADS (Vigilant Guardian) September 6, 2001 Tokyo to Anchorage flight hijacked by “Mum Hykro” to Vancouver and San Francisco

PRE-9/11 PREPARATION AND DEVELOPMENT (continued)
Drill Date Scenario
21 NORAD, NEADS (Vigilant Guardian) September 6, 2001 Seoul to Anchorage flight hijacked by “Lin Po” to Seattle
22 NORAD, NEADS (Vigilant Guardian) September 9, 2001 UK to NYC flight hijacked, blown up
23 NORAD SEADS NEADS (Vigilant Guardian) September 10, 2001 Ilyushin IL-62 from Cuba hijacked by asylum seekers, lands at Dobbins Air Force Base in Georgia

ON 9/11
Drill Date Scenario
24 FBI training exercise in Monterey, California for FBI/CIA Anti-Terrorist Task Force Through 9/11 Diverts top FBI, CIA anti-terrorist and special operations agents and heavy equipment away from Boston, NYC, Washington DC
25 NORAD annual readiness drill, Cheyenne Mountain, CO (Vigilant Guardian) 9/11 Full ‘battle staff’ levels to test entire organization
26 Vigilant Guardian: NORAD, NEADS, US-Canada 9/11 Live-fly hijacking and air defense; hijack multiplication, diversion and confusion
27 NORAD/JCS Vigilant Warrior Through 9/11 Reported by Richard Clarke
28 Operation Southern Watch Through 9/11 Diverts 174th Fighter Wing, New York Air National Guard, to Sultan Air Base, Saudi Arabia, to impose no-fly zone over southern Iraq
29 Operation Northern Watch Through 9/11 Diverts 6 fighters from Langley AFB sent to Incirlik AFB, Turkey to impose no-fly zone over northern Iraq
30 Operation Northern Vigilance Through 9/11 Diverts fighters, 350 personnel to Alaska and northern Canada to counter a Russian bomber drill
31 Operation Northern Guardian, Keflavik AFB, Iceland Through 9/11 Diverts fighters from Langley Air Force Base (Virginia) deployed to Keflavik AFB, Iceland to counter a Russian bomber drill
32 Red Flag, Nellis AFB, Nevada: 100 pilots 9/11 Diverts most F-15s of 71st Fighter Squadron, Langley AFB, VA; DC ANG’s 121st Fighter Squadron of Andrews Air Force Base also depleted.
33 Andrews AFB local drill 9/11 Diverts 3 F-16s to North Carolina
34 National Reconnaissance Office drill, Chantilly, Virginia 9/11 Simulated plane crash into high-rise government building; satellite imaging (WTC attack)
35 Tripod II, New York City 9/11 Response to biochemical attack; run from backup command center at Pier 92, Hudson River.

a reply to: Nova937

rills of both events going on and during? Doesn't that paint the obvious?

To continue with the list of drills due to the fact I ran out of room in my previous post. Just to let you know that we were carrying out these drills long before the 9/11 attack and you thought that only one drill was scheduled.

38 World Trade Center Emergency Drill, Fiduciary Trust Co., 97th floor, South Tower 9/11 Meeting called to assemble and silence unreliable outside contractors?
39 Global Guardian, STRATCOM: Offutt AFB, Nebraska; Barksdale AFB, Louisiana; Minot AFB, North Dakota; Whiteman AFB, Missouri. 9/11 Nuclear warfighting; Armageddon. (deterrence of Russia and China during invasion of Afghanistan and Pakistan)
40 Amalgam Warrior 9/11 Large live-fly air defense and air intercept, tracking, and surveillance drill; air defense against foreign retaliation.
41 Crown Vigilance, Air Combat Command 9/11 No details known.
42 Apollo Guardian, US Space Command 9/11 No details known.
43 AWACS drill, ordered by NORAD commander Gen. Larry Arnold 9/11 Two AWACS aircraft from Tinker AFB, Oklahoma sent over Washington DC and Florida; surveillance of capital and president during coup.
44 Global Guardian Computer Network Attack 9/11 Enemy forces “war dialed” STRATCOM’s telephone and fax systems; “bad insider” has access to key C³ system (missile launch option)
45 STRATCOM Strategic Advisory Committee, Offutt AFB, Nebraska; Andrews AFB, MD; Wright-Patterson AFB, Dayton, Ohio. 9/11 Three E-4B National Airborne Operations Center planes (Doomsday or Looking Glass) airborne; passengers include Brent Scowcroft; Warren Buffet at Offutt. (Committee. of Public Safety option?)

IN ADVANCED PREPARATION ON 9/11
Drill Date Scenario
46 Amalgam Virgo ‘02 Scheduled for June 2002 Air defense, interception, surveillance, and pursuit drill; Delta 757 with real Delta pilots, actors as passengers, FBI as hijackers – deviated from Salt Lake City to Hawaii; Canadian police to hijack

It is that kind of misstep that has made the Truth Movement a laughingstock.

a reply to: skyeagle409

But what you keep forgetting is that facts have no place in a conspiracy theory.
They want salacious back stories.

They don't want a day in the life of a factory worker.
They want a day in the life of a cop.

Planes hitting buildings and fire finishing them off is boring.
They want intrigue, mystery, government operatives.

You would think that after 14 years just one of their stories would stick.
Even Richard Gage can't point the finger at anyone. And he does this for a living!

a reply to: samkent

Planes hitting buildings and fire finishing them off is boring.
They want intrigue, mystery, government operatives.

Seems that you are right because look what they have added to the mix.

Mini Nukes Caused 9/11 Devastation

FICTION: Passenger jets flew into the Twin Towers, and the burning jet fuel caused them to collapse.

FACT: The Twin Towers did not collapse. They suffered a mid-air pulverization due to an extreme unconventional energy source that caused the initial upward trajectory of so much of the towers’ mass during the ‘collapses’ as (supposedly only) gravity was pulling them down.

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

Simply amazing!!

a reply to: samkent

But what you keep forgetting is that facts have no place in the official conspiracy theory.
They want salacious back stories to legitimate their War on Terror.

They don't want a day in the life of a factory worker.
They want a day in the life of a world's policeman in this hegemonial state.

Rigged Planes hitting buildings and explosives finishing them off is way too fictional.
They want less intrigue, mystery and surely no government operatives.

You would think that after 14 years just one of their stories would stick.
Even Nist can't point the finger at factual proof. And they do this for a living!

a reply to: skyeagle409

Yes, Osama bin Laden not only admitted to the 9/11 attack, but warned the United States that it could expect more attacks

No. The Media said he admitted to the attack. The Media posted those fake videos of him admitting to the attack. In fact it was after only 2 hours from the start of the attack that Boy George Bush said it was OBL that did the attack based on no evidence whatsoever. And OBL was on his deathbed at the time of the 9/11 attack. Funny how there was never a video of him supposedly admitting his guilt from a Hospital bed!

As it was, al-Qaeda went public with its martry videos of the 9/11 hijackers and guess who was head of al-Qaeda?

Al-Qaeda....hmmm. Al-Qaeda is a database of International Mercenaries and not a Terrorist group. So there is no head of Al-Qaeda. So anything the media say about them you take with a pinch of salt as it will probably just be a bunch of disinfo and False Propaganda!

Al-Jazeera television is not the CIA.

It might as well be as it is owned and run by both Qatar and Saudi Arabia the biggest financiers of Al-Qaeda / ISIS.

And yes I know they were doing lots of drills before and during 9/11. Every time they create a major False Flag event they have to put some practice in first to get it right on the day and the more drills they do the more they can confuse the people that are in on the False Flag Operation.

Same as the London Bombings. They planned them a year before during the Television program 'Panorama' then again had a drill going on at the exact same time in the exact same place with the exact same scenario. This usually confuses the idiots that don't really think their Governments would do such a thing to their own people even though they covertly murder millions of people overseas for resources and power.

Sorry. 9/11 stinks to hell. 3 Towers with 2 planes is an impossibility. Origami Boeing Aircraft don't exist apart from at the Pentagon and Aluminium Aircraft can't bury themselves in thick dirt at Shanksville. Especially into a hole in the ground that was already there. Good Aiming!!

NOT!!!

a reply to: tigertatzen

Yes tube with in a tube structure. Do you also know the gage?
I believe it was inch and 1/4 but they were massive and the
way one of the planes hit, two of the engines never struck
the core from what I can tell. Yet they both fell withy exactly
the same resistance. Just having two buildings fall exactly
the same way says demolition. And on 911 we have three.

a reply to: soulpowertothendegree

The greatest defense system in the world? Where was the defense that day? I feel so much safer today. Where are the black boxes from those planes? Curious how the NTSB investigations were handled, don't you think? I have seen lesser circumstances that didn't involve the destruction of that day get far more attention. Strange?

this is what had me stumped right after it happened I was living at Camp Lejeune at the time standing in the px in electronics department with other marines around watching the towers fall.
My first thought was where are our guy's? how did they not intercept the planes? We where all questioning that one obvious part of many many other thing that didn't make sense.
this is what got me questioning the whole thing it took a few years of digging but I like many others came to the conclusion that the official story was a big fat fairy tale.

a reply to: skyeagle409

Then, from my letters and other information, you would know that I have led two aviation-related chapters whose members consisted of military and commercial pilots, instructor pilots, private pilots, sport pilots and student pilots, military officers and enlisted personnel, DoD civilians, and retirees, and FAA-rated technicians.

You would have also known that I am a pilot, an Air Force retiree and have worked for defense contractors. You would have also known that I was a supervisor, inspector and technician for the U.S. Air Force and for major defense contractors and have flown as a DCC aboard C-5 transports.

Now you can add lost an argument to an ironworker.

Wrong! I have blamed Bush, Rice, the intelligence services and the FAA for years for dropping the ball and overlooking the flood of international warnings about Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda and their plans to hijack airliners in an attack on the United States.

So you do blame them but only for as much as you say?



No rational person. And no disinformation have I posted.

a reply to: TWILITE22

Only insanity would lead anyone to believe the OS. Glad you are sane.

originally posted by: soulpowertothendegree
a reply to: TWILITE22

Only insanity would lead anyone to believe the OS. Glad you are sane.

being sane in a insane world is very confusing,lol...when truth is involved there is always a seed planted even though you may not know it at the time.